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I searched for wikipedia pages under the high importance section with only a start level quality. My three page ideas are 1. Axial Chirality - So much to be added to this page. More detailed explanations of the concept, references, importance of it, and even history. 2 Condensation Reactions - This page is basically void of all vital information. Very brief sections, no mechanisms, few citations. This page really needs some chemistry TLC and I would love to be the one to do it. 3. Physical Organic Chemistry - This page, as described by wikipedia, relies to much on references to sources for explanations and does not reference page numbers in its references. When talking about solvent effects it defers explanation of Sn1 and Sn2 solvent effects to a reference. I think this page could also benefit from some TLC.

I think if I were to have a preference it would be between Condensation reactions and physical organic chemistry. Axial chirality is interesting too, but honestly whatever you choose I'll be happy to edit.

Matt, I think editing the Condensation Reactions article sounds good! I took a look at the page and it definitely needs references! Start looking for good sources and organizing your contributions. :) Mclaughl (talk) 19:22, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think this page could benefit from some serious reorganization. I want to rewrite the intro paragraph, scrapping most of it, and provide a more comprehensive and coherent understanding of condensation reactions. I it would benefit from a more theoretical and generalized overview of this reaction type. For this section I want to make use of the IUPAC gold book and the Solomons and Fryhle textbook. I was thinking of using the mechanism for the Claisen Condensation reaction for the mechanism section, as a general picture. The rest of the mechanism section would benefit from talking about how the mechanism might be different in different types of condensation reactions. I found an interesting book that goes over some mechanisms for several different types of condensation reactions ( Organic Reactions: Stereochemistry and Mechanism. Fourth Edition by PS Kalsi). Then for the application section, I think looking up some papers that are using condensation reactions in their research would be the most clear way to elucidate the utility of this class of reactions. One paper that I looked at that I thought could be interesting to cite is: 1) Efficient Synthesis of Dibenzo[a,c]cyclohepten-5-ones via a Sequential Suzuki−Miyaura Coupling and Aldol Condensation Reaction and finally an example of how prevalent these reactions are in everyday life by citing the retro-aldol reaction that is present in glycolysis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mm9656 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is a good plan. I think your edits will certainly be welcome. Remember to stick closely to your sources - those that you've listed above are good.Mclaughl (talk) 14:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Edit For Condensation Reaction Page

Introduction

A condensation reaction is an organic addition reaction that proceeds in a stepwise fashion to produce the addition product and a water molecule; in some cases ammonia, ethanol, or acetic acid could be produced instead of water ^[1]. Condensation reactions are ubiquitous in nature and in the laboratory. They occur in the body under physiological conditions to form peptide bonds in proteins and to form triglycerides through the esterification of glycerol. (cite biochemistry textbook). There are a cop Some of the most common types of condensation reactions are the Aldol Condensation, the Claisen Condensation, the Knoevenagel Reaction and the Dieckman Condensation (intramolecular Claisen Condensation)^[2].

Bi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mm9656 (talk • contribs) 23:41, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Review/Suggestion

Hey Matt,

Nice job! The edits you are attempting to make are awesome. I have a few suggestions: 1. For the first chemdraw, beside the first resonance structures you need a plus sign (in between the protonated piperidine and the resonance structures with the electron withdrawing group. 2. In the mechanistic details section, you say "mechanism" twice in the same sentence and it sounds a bit awkward, just reword it. 3. In the claisen mechanism chemdraw, three sections down, you have an equilibrium arrow at the end and then it continues the section below it, it kind of looks unappealing. Just clean that up (better visuals). 4. You also need references in the "Modern Synthetic Applications" section — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mastrofran (talk • contribs) 22:31, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Condensation Reaction". IUPAC Copendium of Chemical Terminology (Gold Book). IUPAC. Retrieved 7 December 2017.
^ Bruckner, Reinhard (2002). Advanced Organic Chemistry (First ed.). San Diego, California: Harcourt Academic Press. pp. 414–427. ISBN 0-12-138110-2. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

[1] "Condensation Reaction". IUPAC Copendium of Chemical Terminology (Gold Book). IUPAC. Retrieved 7 December 2017.

[2] Bruckner, Reinhard (2002). Advanced Organic Chemistry (First ed.). San Diego, California: Harcourt Academic Press. pp. 414–427. ISBN 0-12-138110-2. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

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