- NONE of your sources claim that they are JSOC. Did you completely ignore the CRS report? It SPECIFICALLY states that the 75th and SOAR are believed to be a part of JSOC (same as Delta etc.).
Enough with the edit war
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- Be advised that this edit could have gotten you blocked; I've refrained from blocking in the hope that you will discuss the matter at the article's talk page, rather than revert again. —C.Fred (talk) 21:36, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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More Sources to Confirm 75th Ranger Regiment is not part of JSOC
This page also shows that the 75th Ranger Regiment is under USASOC, and separate from JSOC. The USASOC page also confirms this. As does the 75th Ranger Regiment page. Looks like you're on the wrong side of the facts, sir. Charlie Tango Bravo 21:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The official pages for USASOC and SOCOM show the 75th and SOAR as members. No references you have provided show that SOAR or the 75th are NOT a part of JSOC. In fact, who flies 1st SFOD? How can SOAR NOT be a part of JSOC?
- Again, those elements will be under JSOC when on JSOC missions, that doesn't mean that the entire regiment is a standing element of JSOC as Delta and DEVGRU are. The 75th Ranger Regiment and Night Stalkers are contributors to JSOC, not constant JSOC elements. The Night Stalkers were created at the same time as JSOC, and as an element that would work under JSOC as needed, but the entire regiment is not part of that chain of command. Col. Charlie Beckwith's book Delta Force goes over the process of putting together JSOC and the thinking behind it after Operation Eagle Claw. The facts of the Chain of Command structure are here: United_States_Army_Special_Operations_Command#Chain_of_Command, and here: United_States_Special_Operations_Command#Subordinate_Commands. I hope that we can find a common ground here, I have no interest in going back and forth on this. Charlie Tango Bravo 22:15, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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Fair enough, but if you look on Gary Gordon's wiki (Delta Force Medal of Honor winner) left shoulder in his photo, what do you see? A USASOC patch. Hence, they are not standing elements of JSOC either (according to your logic). Again, neither SOAR or the 75th have deployed outside of JSOC since the 80s (see the myriad of operations conducted since 1980). JSOC is JOINT Special Operations Command meaning multiple, but none of the units are co-located. Does JSOC fund Delta, or does SOCOM? Again, I take issue with the specific term "if needed" they are part of JSOC since neither the Regiment nor SOAR have deployed outside of JSOC in the better part of a half century. Paolau.kalani (talk) 22:26, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Your recent edits
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Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Joint Special Operations Command, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.
Also, in the event of an edit conflict while editing a talk page, make sure that you don't accidentally erase or overwrite the intervening edit in the course of getting yours into the discussion. Since your edit is time stamped two minutes after the edit of mine that got erased, I think an edit conflict is likely what happened. Just be careful with them in the future. —C.Fred (talk) 23:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Ok, as I am sure you have figured out by now, I am new to wiki. I assure you it was unintentional. I will work harder to make sure it doesn't happen again.