User talk:Ripple72

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Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

Hello, Ripple72, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! NSH001 (talk) 20:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Frank Horwill[edit]

Thanks for starting this article, something I've been meaning to get around to for a long time (too many other things to do!). Among other things, its existence removes an annoying redlink from the Chrissie Wellington article — important as I think the period she spent training under Frank was critical in laying the foundation for her current success.

--NSH001 (talk) 20:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I've done some work to improve this article, but a lot of work remains to be done to bring this article up to a reasonable standard. The links under "Welcome" above will point you in the right direction, but by far the most important is to provide verifiable references for everything stated in the article (within reason!). This is best done by the original contributor, so I'm asking you now if you could do so. If you need help on how to do this, just ask me on my talk page, and I'll be glad to assist. Good luck,
--NSH001 (talk) 17:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

We are struggling to understand what the problems are? We need some more clues please? Thanks Ripple72 (talk) 16:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, you're doing OK for someone new to Wikipedia. Best not to think of "problems", rather "ways to improve". Most articles on Wikipedia start off as "stubs", and this is a better one than many others. The whole of Wikipedia is really a giant work in progress, and there's always scope for improvement on every article. A good way of understanding what makes a good article is to look at some examples:
You can find some tips on how to write biography articles at WP:BIOGRAPHY#Tips for writing biographies - ignore the bit about drafting it in your user space first (but it's good practice to bear in mind for the future). However the bit about finding sources is important. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, there needs to be some way of ensuring that dross, rubbish, blatant advertising and self-promotion are kept out and only factually accurate material stays in. The main way this is done is to ensure that the material can be verified in reliable sources. This undoubtedly means extra work, but it pays off in the quality of the result. Also, technically, it isn't that easy for beginners to learn how to do it, so here's a wee beginner's guide (stolen from elsewhere):
Click on "show" to open contents.


FWIW, I have my own preferences on how to do citations, which you can find at User:NSH001/citation, but you don't have to follow this way of doing it. I can't over-emphasis enough the importance of providing citations. In the meantime, I've just found a source for Frank's "cup of tea and a bun" quote, so I will put that in the article shortly.
Hope this helps,
--NSH001 (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the extra hints, the problem is that most of the "facts" come from media that are too old to be on the internet (e.g. old copies of Athletics Weekly or from lectures at BMC training days or old copies of the BMC News. But I know them to be true as I was there!! What are the policies in such circumstances? Ripple72 (talk) 22:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Policy says sources have to be reliable and verifiable; they do not have to be on the internet (and the best sources are usually books or peer-reviewed journals). So anything printed in AW is OK (can be verified at a good public library); BMC News is probably OK, but not ideal as it might possibly be considered by some as self-published, or to have a lower standard of editorial checking than, say, a large national newspaper. Unfortunately your or my personal experience is not considered a reliable source - but if you were to write up an article on Frank, and get it published in a newspaper or magazine, it could then be used.
--NSH001 (talk) 22:41, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


Proposed deletion of Descartes Publishing[edit]

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The article Descartes Publishing has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable company, with only one notable publication, with no references since 2007 creation. Might be redirected to Athletics Weekly as an alternative to deletion.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:AW-Aug-28-2008-Cover.jpg[edit]

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