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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Accession of the United Kingdom to the European Economic Community[edit]

Per request on my talk page, I have re-opened this AfD that was closed by you a few days ago. --Randykitty (talk) 12:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Gary Lefkowith[edit]

I would like your help regarding the Wikipedia Article on me: Gary Lefkowith / Casey Skinner wrote the Article years ago & Sam DeRose now updates it & made changes when certain requirements were necessary. This link might be a good place to start, because I have supplied 3rd party press & other info, there that I thought added credibility Stephen Philbrick gave me a ticket ##2016071310006151 & suggested that I reach out to others to help with the examination of the Article in question: Trying not to take this personally but in my mind the situation questions my integrity, legitimacy & career. I feel it's very obvious who I've worked with & especially my relationship with Chubby Checker as a Producer & Record Executive, as well as Performer & Songwriter that have Charted, 1 of them a # 1 Dance Song in Billboard, with Chubby Stephen also suggested that I reach out to other Editors including the one who supports the Article staying up. I really don't know how to do that & the other person's link doesn't seem to have a page. Thank You & All the Best, Gary Hifiadd (talk) 18:19, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Why histmerge needed[edit]

Re this reversion of yours, the current contents of J. Larry Nichols is actually the pre-July 5 contents of Larry Nichols, done as a copy-and-paste move by someone who wanted the Larry Nichols article to be about a different person. Now the new Larry Nichols has been prodded, but even if it goes away, from the sources shown in the J. Larry Nichols article, that may actually be the more appropriate title for it. In which case the history from the old Larry Nichols article needs to be merged into it. Wasted Time R (talk) 18:54, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Oh dear. Well, @Wasted Time R: I must confess I can't follow the machinations. Please do what you think best and I won't interfere again. Sorry. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:58, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Just requesting help[edit]

Hello, Shawn in Montreal. Could I have your opinion on Nate Howard when you get time to look at it? I was reading random articles via the random mod and it came up. I'm new to AFDs but I saw that you are mentioned a lot in them. I appreciate any help with Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nate_Howard_(nomination), as I would like to nominate another article for deletion but before I do would like help with this one as to not make mistakes. Shamenotnow (talk) 02:46, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Non-admin closure[edit]

  • Hello Shawn in Montreal, you updated talkpage of List of aircraft (0-A) AfD discussion here as "closed as speedy keep" (Old AfD multi update). However, the AfD discussion was not closed and neither was the AfD notice removed from the article main-space. Just wanted to let you know that I have closed this AfD. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 19:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @AKS.9955: Hi there. That's because it was reverted without explanation by Richard Norton. And done so out of process, too. Even a non-admin closure should have been taken to deletion review, I think? Anyway, I'd noted it in the Afd thread. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:22, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Shawn in Montreal:, I just left a message on his TalkPage. Thanks for letting me know. You are right, every AfD closure, if has to be opened (even if disputed) has to go to DRV. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 19:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes I saw that, thanks. I still think my closure was the right call, per SKCRIT. The editor didn't do me the basic courtesy of engaging with me when he blanked the close template, so I decided to extend the same. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:39, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your ongoing work in providing deletion sorting for AfD discussions. This oft-unnoticed element of AfD helps to keep matters running smoothly by encouraging greater participation at AfD, which is sometimes lagging in participation. North America1000 07:47, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Re: Nautical/Maritime science fiction[edit]

I agree with you about the search results, but I would think Maritime Science Fiction is more grammatically correct? I don't have time as I may have to leave Wikipedia for a while, but we could talk to the maritime biologist (who is more than a reliable source on a science fiction subject) if he knows of anything of the term being used elsewhere. Another user on the talk page suggested a re-titling to "List of maritime science fiction works" which is fine with my, but we should not re-publish anything and keep it draft till we can expand on the sources.--Taeyebar 05:13, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

You Came Along[edit]

Take a look. Not the usual style ... FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:18, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Template:Colin Low[edit]

I don't know, wouldn't categorizing it in Category:Colin Low fall under categorizing by content, and not by type of template? (I was only recently informed about WP:CAT#T, so I may be completely wrong here...) Trivialist (talk) 23:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

  • well, for one thing, because it's a maintenance and not a "content" category, right? WP:CAT#T doesn't make a lick of sense and I've read it several times... Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:34, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
    • but if you're Cfd goes through -- as it should -- it will be a content category. I still can't make it with that policy is saying but I don't think it's saying don't categorize templates? Anyway if you're sure go ahead. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:38, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Cavalry regiments DELSORT/MIL[edit]

I came along to do this, and you'd done it already!! Instant work!! Amazing!! Please do vote on this. Thanks Buckshot06 (talk) 22:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

  • @Buckshot06: sorry, I'm not knowledgeable enough in this area. But it looks to me based on past Afds you shouldn't have any trouble! best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:27, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Fagstein vs. TTP Media[edit]

Could I trouble you to also pop in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/850 AM Montreal, the third station which I nominated separately because of the fact that with its license already expired it's a slightly (though admittedly not highly) different situation from the other two? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 01:33, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mondegreens[edit]

I completely forgot that I'd started that page. Honest! Dotage looms! Arrivisto (talk) 09:58, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

RiskAoA for deletion?[edit]

Shawn, picked you up as a reviewer for deleted articles, would you mind contributing you 2 cents to RiskAoA? Thanks74.96.151.44 (talk) 02:57, 21 August 2016 (UTC)


Thank you for speedy closing the erroneous report I filed here [1]. I could have sworn I chose file rather than article, but was using a device other than my computer, so probably a finger-error. I should have checked it after I filed. -- WV 16:39, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Sony Rox[edit]

This article about invalid tv channel thats why I'm trying to delete it Tonyjaimy (talk) 06:04, 26 August 2016 (UTC)


'Gubbaare' is an independent Pakistani short film made for film festivals and online releases. A citing has been added on the article linking to the youtube link of the film. Please look into the matter soon. I need a Wikipedia page because I am a budding film-maker and need platforms like these. Please, look into it soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Worldwideshortfilms (talkcontribs) 19:50, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


Draft:List of maritime science fiction works. Open as long as you need to contribute.--Taeyebar 23:46, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Reconsideration[edit]

Hi every one Anup [Talk], Shawn in Montreal (talk), David Gerard (talk)

Okay going towards everything yes it's me all behind everything making an article on flo2cash and Ankur Dharmani but as described about Dharmani, before on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ankur Dharmani. I apologize and i'm trying to fix it as i saw a news few days back on Facebook then i Googled and i thought it's a good thing/article to start a page on flo2cash because in New Zealand there was no article on Fintech companies and it's one of best futuristics companies based in New Zealand as concerned towards fin tech (let me tell you i'm not in any relation of the company and person, it's only my reflection and my work).

But later in my absence someone else edited the flo2cash i don't know since i'm bit new on Wikipedia, not a pro so i don't know how to get information about the USER who edited so that i can warn him/her. Yes Live Mint was a mistake as i copy pasted some of my references form my previous article as i forgot to make correction. After making the page on flo2cash i thought it's good to even write an article on his CEO(as described before), yes bit low with the data but yes now i have everything for consideration(it's not for the purpose of advertisement). So pardon me for everything i will fix and would like to request to make a reconsideration for both article for not putting it for deletion, for instance please help in making contribution towards the articles. Afrojack255 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:23, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

LGBT bio stubs[edit]

I'd say it probably should be, as stub categories usually are filed as subcategories of their most corresponding article categories. (That said, I didn't know it even existed as I've never seen or used it before, and as the volume of articles in it indicates I'm not sure very many other people know about or use it either.) I am curious as to why you would add it, revert yourself and then ask me if it should be there — I might just be overthinking this, but the tone of your question sort of sounds like you thought I had an objection for some reason. Bearcat (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Ah, okay, gotcha now. Bearcat (talk) 21:15, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Lists of Canadian films[edit]

I know we never used to bother including a references column, but Wikipedia actually prefers lists to be referenced whenever possible the same way as articles are — so when I'm creating new lists now, I try to add a reference column accordingly. People have also sometimes directly placed a reference in the "notes" column as well, for the record. Bearcat (talk) 00:28, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Nancy Ruth[edit]

Just a quick heads-up about Nancy Ruth: the reason she's denoted in the template the way she is, and not piped out as just "Ruth", is that Ruth isn't her surname. Her full legal name is actually Nancy Ruth Rowell Jackman, with Ruth being a middle name, but for reasons which she's never really explained she doesn't publicly use "Rowell Jackman", and just goes by "Nancy Ruth" as a mononym. There have been discussions about it in the past and consensus has been that it would be inappropriate original research for us to treat her name as if Ruth were a conventional surname. I know it looks weird, and I grant that it is kind of weird for a political dignitary to bill herself in a Cher/Madonna/Prince/Beyoncé sort of way, but we just have to treat it as what it is: a compound given name and not a firstname-lastname. Bearcat (talk) 15:29, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Snow theatre AfD[edit]

I've withdrawn my AfD nomination for Snow theatre and wanted to see if you could redirect the page to Outdoor cinema#Examples. Thanks! Meatsgains (talk) 19:04, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

  •  Done. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:04, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
    • @Meatsgains: the nomination close should say redirect rather than keep, though. As it's inappropriate for me to change your closure would you like to revise that? You do state "redirect" in the edit summary, but that doesn't match what's in the closure statement. Shawn in Montreal (talk)
Shoot! My mistake. Thanks Meatsgains (talk) 21:57, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Deletion review for Vugar Ismailov[edit]

Hello. I have asked for a deletion review of Vugar Ismailov. Because you participated in the deletion discussion for this page or otherwise were interested in the page, I think, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Thank you. Writer278 (talk) 08:30, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

New deal for page patrollers[edit]

Hi Shawn in Montreal,

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Under the new rule, you may find that you are temporarily unable to mark new pages as reviewed. However, this is nothing to worry about - most current experienced patrollers are being accorded the the new right without the need to apply, and if you have significant previous experience of patrolling new pages, we strongly encourage you to apply for the new right as soon as possible - we need all the help we can get, and we are now providing a dynamic, supportive environment for your work.

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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for actually searching for sources at AFD, a highly original and commendable approach. E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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for actually searching for sources at AFD, a highly original and commendable approach. E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For taking the time to find sources on Old stock Canadians (a highly original approach to a political topic at AFD) E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:58, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

The Challenge Series[edit]

The Challenge Series is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are invited to participate.

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Scale of justice 2.svg Hello, Shawn in Montreal. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

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DYK for Maxwell M. Kalman[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 27 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maxwell M. Kalman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Montreal architect Maxwell M. Kalman designed more than 1,100 buildings, including Canada's first shopping centre? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Maxwell M. Kalman), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Martin Duckworth[edit]

Hi Shawn, thanks for the observations.

The changes I made were done on Martin Duckworth's request. Basically, his motivations were accuracy, and putting emphasis on the works that he believes are most significant in his career. Being more proficient with Wikipedia, I would have documented the changes more thoroughly. Tanguayl (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC) tanguayl - 2016-12-13

Scare factor[edit]

Hi. About your remarks here, I have the feeling we're dealing with a 10-year old or something. I wouldn't bother with an SPI. Maybe if (s)he creates more incoherent articles in the future but for now... nah. Cheers, Yintan  10:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Whenever I nominate something for deletion almost invariably you add the categories, which I am too lazy or inept to do. Do you ever sleep? TheLongTone (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Not really! I'm rather embarrassed about the amount of time I spend here. thanks and best wishes for the holidays. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:03, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Shawn, I need your help! How do I add to the comments on the Victorino Noval Foundation page possible deletion page ( They keep mixing up Victorino Noval Jr. with the Foundation, and he is prohibited from managing the LLC or even serving on the Board in any way. The Foundation has hosted huge charity events for Rihanna, including a benefit for The Clara Lionel Foundation, which was founded by Rihanna in order to grant fund efforts promoting health, education, arts and culture around the world. Since its founding, the Clara Lionel Foundation has also made it its mission to provide quality treatment for cancer patients in Barbados and has officially named The Clara Brathwaite Center for Oncology and Nuclear Medicine at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital where the facility's first modern radiotherapy machine, the Equinox Beam, has been added. (see Noval Jr. attends the events, as it his celebrity connections which help bring in the stars to donate money, but he is not a member of the LLC and the LLC does not receive ANY donations, only aid in helping other charities attract attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophieregent999 (talkcontribs) 03:16, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

  • The way you'd make comments there is the same way you made a comment here – you would just click on the "edit" tab and go from there... Shawn in Montreal (talk) 07:19, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

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Merry Christmas Shawn in Montreal!!
Hi Shawn in Montreal, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia! Face-smile.svg

   –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:33, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry![edit]

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:29, 25 December 2016 (UTC) Lights ablaze.JPG

Hershey Bar[edit]

Articles for deletion/Brandon Jenkins (singer/songwriter)[edit]

You "voted" on the Brandon Jenkins article for deletion. Would you be so kind to have a look at it again? A lot has been changed. (Sacha Kay (talk) 09:48, 28 December 2016 (UTC))

  • No, I did not. I very deliberately did not enter a bolded !vote, I only commented, and that's all I intend to do. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

TeamWarfare League AfD[edit]

Would like to undelete this article, as the TWL website is active again. I know the article needs some cleaning up, and we now have the people to do it.

RedBeardOrion (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Shawn in Montreal![edit]

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Hi Shawn. I've been on the lookout for candidates for administrator user rights and from some investigation have come to the conclusion that you more than fit the bill. You've got a great track record in almost every area that RfA voters look for, and I think you'd make a great administrator at a time when we desperately need to promote more. I notice, though, that you said you weren't interested back in 2012. Is there any chance I could change your mind? I think you could do a lot of good with the tools. Sam Walton (talk) 16:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

  • @Samwalton9: That's an enormous honour and I truly thank you -- but I fully admit to being temperamentally unsuited to the tools. There's just been way too many cases where I'm going through a bad patch and I have let it affect my behaviour. I'd never survive an RFA. Moreover, I have to add that I don't find myself in need of further tools, really. I really don't want to get more involved in the necessary mop-and-bucket work than I am, now! Plus, there seem to be more and more housekeeping work that non-admins can do. I'm quite proud in my little way of my non-admin closures at Afd, which so far have been uncontested. I have the greatest appreciation for admins -- but I don't deserve to be one. But I really appreciate the gesture, Sam. All the best for 2017. Gonna be an interesting year! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Guden deletion[edit]

Curious why you closed Guden so quickly. You didn't give much info. As nominator, I don't disagree but I was expecting someone to oppose at AFD - otherwise I would have PRODed. From what I remember, it seemed like a reasonable article - just not notable. MB 23:46, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

  • @MB: I only closed the discussion because it had already been deleted by an admin. Click on the redlink and see the history. I am not an administrator and don't have the power to delete articles. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
OK, now I see it was a G11. Not sure I agree with that but the result is the same. MB 00:08, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Red link, blue link, romper bomper boo[edit]

As usual, the (temporary) problem was that the Academy keeps publicizing the nominees while still leaving the producers' names out of the documentary and short film press releases for some @&*&ing reason, thus forcing obsessive ADHD types like me to have to follow up with a second round of hunting to find them afterward. (Though to be fair, this is still an improvement over last year, when the press release for those categories listed all of the films but completely failed to actually specify which film actually went with which category.) So I just wanted to let you know that all of the film titles you bluelinked to their directors today now actually have their directors' names properly listed in the article, so I've reredlinked the titles themselves since they don't need to reduplicate the same link anymore. I still wish there were an easier way to do all of this (or more people willing to help out), because it's now 3 a.m. Wednesday and I still have 50 more categories to finish and some digital producers to hunt down. Might a Candy by any other name not taste so sweet after all? Bearcat (talk) 08:18, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

(Also, why the beep is What Would Sal Do? already getting television-acting nominations when it still hasn't actually premiered yet?) Bearcat (talk) 08:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
@Bearcat: thank you. There was actually very interesting somewhat catty article, I think, in the Globe and Mail, about how these works don't actually have to be seen to be nominated. I'm sorry I haven't been able to help more, and I will try to, I'm just pretty snowed under in my real life right now. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. I knew that was a thing sometimes, but I thought it was more of a film thing given that Canadian film is generally much worse off for public visibility than Canadian television is. But then again, I guess I shouldn't put byzantine rules past them, given the eternal mystery of why the qualification period seems to be "next awards" for some films and "next-next awards" for other films that premiered at the same time... Bearcat (talk) 20:08, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Here's that piece, btw, from Barry Hertz. Think it'll strike a chord! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:26, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you.[edit]

Thank you for your comments Here. Really appreciate it. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:54, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

  • You're most welcome. We disagree from time to time but people are making up policy that simply doesn't exist, from what I can see, then accusing you of not following it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion record[edit]

Hello, I'm new here and was trying to create an article about my professor, Joah Santos. And then also Mission Marketing Strategy

I wanted to look it over to see what you felt was advertising but it is not available and it took me a few hours to gather the data. Can I correct it so you don't feel it is advertising? How do I gain access again?

Thank You

Wallst1Dr (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2017 (UTC) Wallst1Dr (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I thought the article was unsalvageable WP:SPAM and apparently the deleting administrator agreed. Wikipedia does not exist to promote your professor or his Mission Marketing Strategy. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:14, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Films directed by Ben Addelman and Samir Mallal has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Films directed by Ben Addelman and Samir Mallal, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Avicennasis @ 14:18, 29 Tevet 5777 / 14:18, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Wings of Mercy[edit]

Hi Shawn, can you look over the Wikipedia article Wings_of_Mercy. I am interested in your observations, comments, critique, etc. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:28, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Sure. I did look it over last night in fact, and made a few small tweaks to the categories and talk page banner. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Campuzano-Polanco family[edit]

Hi. Can you help me save this article through the debate in order for a consensus to be achieved. I have added plenty of legitimate sources but nobody is participating in the debate. I have put quite an effort doing research for this article so please help me save it. Thanks--Enion Glas (talk) 00:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I'm sorry but I don't generally think a lot of these fictional families are notable. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Fictional? Spanish colonial families are fictional? What is your argument to back up your claim? Not notable? You mean not a highly entitled European royal family? Its is a relevant family in the island of Santo Domingo and the Caribbean region with a notable war hero in the very determining Battle of Cartagena de Indias, a high position politician during Fernando VII reign in Spain and it has who is considered to be the first romantic poet in America with a frekin plaque at the Niagara Falls. What am I missing here? Not anglosaxon or germanic enough for you? --Enion Glas (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Oh sorry I thought this was in reference to a dispute over fiction families in The Godfather, which I think I also sorted. No, I have no views on the matter, sorry. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:08, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok, but earlier you thought this was a case of WP Bite. Is not a fictional family so perhaps the discussion can use your comments since you showed interest in including it on various discussion pages? --Enion Glas (talk) 18:29, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


I'm only handing out warnings for now, since the situation has resolved itself. Consider yourself trouted for letting it get this far in the first place; you should know better. Please don't let it happen again. Primefac (talk) 03:21, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Yes, I saw your comment at the discussion. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

New Wikiproject![edit]

Hello, Shawn in Montreal! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a new WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 03:48, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

One World or None[edit]

Check it out. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:28, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

John Dunning (film producer) copyright concern[edit]

I have removed some of the content you added to the above article, as it is too close to the source web page,, a copyright web page. All content you add to Wikipedia must be written in your own words. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or if you think I made a mistake. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

  • No, you're quite right. I was just rushed. I think it was able to rewrite everything in my own lingo, let me know if you have any concerns... Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:32, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
It's all chill now; your version is better than mine too, as it contains more information. Thanks for taking the time to do that. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:33, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 February 2017[edit]

If you want to change your username....[edit]

To say "The Shawn in the Montreal"... well, I'm sure you know where the WP:CHU is. The Pete "Category:Wikpedidians who are a absent-minded creature" in the AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:06, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Bixi (company) [edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—Bixi (company) —has been proposed for merging with PBSC Urban Solutions. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mindfrieze (talk) 22:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)


Hello Shawn! Concerning Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/F/A-18C Mock-upFFA P-16 requested support by Germans to keep page F/A-18C Mock-up:

I mean this is the way to arrange, not to build wikipedia. No reply needed, simple delete it. -- (talk) 17:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry Shawn. But this above is from a sockpupped .. of Cronista / Fernrohr.. he is working with many many differend IP's and he is buggng MBurch since a long time. Since I had preventet the deletion of the article RUAG COBRA written by MBurch I became also a targed of this Fernrohr IP's-- at the moment this IP is running an editwar against 4 User in the german wikipedia. This was why I deleted it.FFA P-16 (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I don't know his identity but you clearly have been canvassing, based on the diffs. Even if he is what you say he is, two wrongs don't make a right. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:16, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
He is now blocked on german wikipedia [2]FFA P-16 (talk) 17:19, 12 February 2017 (UTC)



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Thank you for quality articles related to film, such as Colin Low (filmmaker) and The Danish Poet, for creating categories and sorting them out, for handing articles for deletion "actually searching for sources", for service for more than ten years, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Outline of the Bible AfD edit[edit]

I was surprised to see you change someone else's comment here... as you pointed out, you only get one bolded !vote, so undoing someone else's is significant. Rename seems like a legitimate possible outcome. Would you either undo your edit or explain on the AfD page why you made it? Mortee (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Nothing remotely important[edit]

Hi, I took a peek into Your contribs as a quick and dirty primer on how to sort AfDs. Just thought I'd let You know. Have a nice day. --Ouro (blah blah) 23:34, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Oh I spend WAY too much time there these days. God knows why. Hope it was useful to you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
    • Why, yes it was. You probably do it because You are fascinated with the mechanics of Wikipedia, or a nerd sweet and pure, not unlike me. I should be sleeping now. --Ouro (blah blah) 23:40, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You probably don't get enough thanks for your hard work in the deletion sorting department. It really is helpful! Lepricavark (talk) 20:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Philip Elliott[edit]

It won't help in this case (I already checked), but you actually haven't lost your search access to old Montreal newspapers the way you seem to think you have — it's not fully comprehensive, but the Google News Archive has some Montreal Gazette all the way back to 1878, as well as big chunks of quite a few of the old historic Post and Daily and Herald and others. I think you might have forgotten where your access was, but you still have quite a bit more than you thought. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

  • I tried that -- but I still wonder if something's changed/declined? I played a key role - I think - in saving the article on Trudeau's dad, Charles Emile, via that very resource. But it seems like I find less now than I did then. Though I might have used a different method at the time, such as browsing to issue dates that corresponded to his death. I just don't recall. Anyway, thanks so much for trying, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:01, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for 150th anniversary of Canada[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 21 February 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 150th anniversary of Canada, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that to celebrate the 150th anniversary of Canada in 2017, access to national parks, historic sites and marine conservation areas is free? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/150th anniversary of Canada. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 150th anniversary of Canada), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

When you[edit]

...removed all the tags that appear at chemical compound, did you fix the issues that exist in each of the places? Did you consult an expert in chemistry before acting? Or was it simply the intent to make the article appear healthy and fine (when it is, in fact, very sickly)? Just wondering at what motivates a non-expert to enter an area where they have no experience or expertise, and remove helpful tags, that indicate to those in the field, what aspects of a technical article need attention. Tag-bombing is only tag-bombing if things are fine. If they are not fine, tags are placeholders and pointers to what needs to happen for an article to improve. Le Prof (chemist) Leprof 7272 (talk) 05:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Leprof 7272, please refrain from accusing other Wikipedians about their apparent lack of knowledge or skill. It doesn't take an "expert" to edit an article, provided they do so in a well-referenced and accurate fashion. Primefac (talk) 13:05, 22 February 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Thatcher's children[edit]

Oh! Was curious after what went down on that AFD if your speedy delete perspective automatically transferred to delete after the other person came in with the issue regarding A3. I had the exact same thought you had, I'm sorry I didn't mention it during the nom. If you've changed your view to keep or something else, no worries, just saw that and figured clarification would be good for the closing admin on that one. South Nashua (talk) 17:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

  • @South Nashua: I just messed up, plain and simple. GB fan was right. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
    • No worries. I made the same mistake. From reading what happened after though, I wasn't certain if you still had a viewpoint on the afd. If you don't, no worries, just curious. South Nashua (talk) 17:22, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
      • No, I'm just going to back away.... thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
        • Sounds good. P.S. - I keep on seeing your name on afd re-listing things, thank you for all your work. I'm sure it can feel like a thankless job sometimes. South Nashua (talk) 19:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 February 2017[edit]

I don't want to revert you but...[edit]

I DAMN WELL WILL!!!!1!1!1!one!one1oneoneone. ;)

My purpose was to make is so they didn't clutter up the editing field when editors add their !votes. It's really not a big deal, either way (I know they're pretty standard in any AfD discussion), I just thought it'd be nice not to have them right there. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 00:07, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snakes in Suits[edit]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snakes in Suits is closely related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Psychopathy in the workplace. If you think it is appropriate please also add notice to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snakes in Suits.--Penbat (talk) 19:55, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Dipendranath Bandyopadhyay[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Dipendranath Bandyopadhyay. ansh666 09:40, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Requesting help on DJ Premier (Ghana)[edit]

Charlesakrofi (talk) 13:44, 7 March 2017 (UTC)Hi, I need your help to update the page DJ Premier(Ghana)to the standard required by wikipedia as the page has been proposed for deletion. I had to make changes to it earlier as the programme he was said to host is not known. But even then, it is still marked for deletion. Kindly tell me why it should be deleted and if there is any help you can offer so that it does not get deleted. Thanks


Dear Shawn,

No, it was not me who did that, but apparently someone is very upset about the way I wrote the article, and since this person is harrassing me on Facebook currently and things are turning in a way Gerwyn Williams would feel disgusted at, I am decided to withdraw the article myself and rather ask the National Library to make an entry for Gerwyn Williams. He was a driven artist and did not have more time, sadly so. Having been close with him till the end, despite the geographical distance, I felt it was only right to recommend his two short films, they had been critically aknowledged at said Green Man Festival. Not only me, but other musicians too had been looking forward to Gerwyn's possible recovery; he had made plans to return to Berlin and perhaps collaborate a little. All this failed, and now there is this unnecessary conflict about his heritage. You will understand if I am taking down the article as of now, resigning to the offensiveness it caused. - Thanks for getting in touch, and perhaps be so kind as to let other critiques of the Wiki community know as well, so the turmoil get settled and no further discussion be needed. - Nic (relating to the 'Gerwyn Williams, filmmaker, musician' entry)TheNic (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

The Ethical Journalism article[edit]

Hi Shawn,

I thank you for your input over at the "Ethical Journalism" Afd discussion. I see that you have a particular interest in journalism, and therefore I'm writing this to you directly. I also promised not to comment further on the discussion page, so also for that reason I am commenting here to you personally. I admit that I probably screwed up royally in my first attempt at creating an "Ethical Journalism" article. Still I hope that the article doesn't get deleted, but instead fixed. The premise with which I created that page, was essentially the premise that very few people, even including a few journalists, have a very clear idea of exactly what "Ethical Journalism" really is. My case in point here is, otherwise the Trump phenomenon could not possibly have succeeded.

Why have so many Americans been so mesmerized by this man? I believe that it may have begun with a certain American "weakness" for conspiracy theories. I would propose that in order for anyone to fall for a conspiracy theory, they would first have to have a very poor understanding of exactly what "Ethical Journalism" really is. Does Wikipedia currently do a very good job of assisting the public in gaining a better understanding of what the term really means?

I believe that by simplifying the concept into a single term, "Ethical Journalism," and by writing a simple, hopefully easily understood article about the subject, treating it as a single concept and not as some kind of a convoluted and complicated mess, that only a PhD could possibly fully understand, that this might greatly assist the public in better comprehending exactly what "Ethical Journalism" really is. Does this make any sense to you at all, or am I just crazy here?


Scott P. (talk) 20:19, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi there. I actually don't have a particular interest or knowledge of journalism -- it's just that I like to help sort the Afds -- the deletion discussions -- and there sure have been a lot of controversial articles from the U.S., post-election! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:26, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me asking, but what might be some of the most interesting controversial articles (interesting for yourself) that you've watched go through the AFD process, since our kooky election? Scott P. (talk) 20:33, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Well, that's it: the election. All the Trump stuff. Trump/Clinton stuff. It's interesting to me how Wikipedia can sort of become a forum or battleground during times of great conflict (witness all the stuff on Israel/Palestine) and suddenly there's been this explosion of articles either for or against Trump, Clinton, etc. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/United States of America. I mean, wtf is Suspecion of electronic survalence on Trump Campaign? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Great f'n example!  :-) I think I see what you mean. I think WP sometimes acts as a sort of a "global mind" where some thoughts can get deliberated first. Interesting and helpful. Yes, my article was "slightly" biased after the lead. The lead at least seemed to be unbiased. This gives me a thought. I think I might propose over at the Afd that the article be "withdrawn" for the time-being, until a group of editors might be able to compose and present a more "neutrally toned article," and then present that for reconsideration? How does that sound? A good, bad, or ridiculous idea? Scott P. (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
...perhaps ridiculous.... Scott P. (talk) 22:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to tell you. I suppose you'd have to have a "group of editors" ready work on this collectively in draft space? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

.... (continued from above)…. Yes, something like that. Obviously not a typical Wikipedia procedure, but in this case, because of the fact that I admittedly have some "personal blind spots," I would probably have to find somebody who could work with me who was "pro Trump", and then we would have to work together on this, and then perhaps a third more neutral editor too. I would certainly be willing to try and put in the "legwork" to try and accomplish something like this. I believe that if a more neutral article could somehow be written here, that it might be a very helpful and good article. Scott P. (talk) 22:54, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Obviously you're unsure of my proposal at best, and I understand. I will be the first to admit that in my days, I've whipped up more than one crackpot scheme. However, I have occasionally come up with some good ones too. So, if you don't mind, my question for you, since you've obviously watched over far more Afd's than I, is this idea DOA, remotely possible, or "don't know"? Your unvarnished opinion on this would be very much appreciated and helpful. Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 02:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (International Digital Emmy Awards) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating International Digital Emmy Awards, Shawn in Montreal!

Wikipedia editor L3X1 just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

My opinion of whatever NPP squad existed is at an all time low. It appears to be staffed by 300 editors who like stuffing their CSD log, rather than help the project. No wonder 15K articles backed up. Thanks for helping me in AfDs.

To reply, leave a comment on L3X1's talk page.

Learn more about page curation.

L3X1 (distant write) 19:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

  • No, I simply created a redirect -- not the page. Take a look at the edit history. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:41, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Wiki pages[edit]

  • Hi again. Thank you for the info. And yes I would like to set up a dialogue with you. Is it possible you can email me at or is that against the wiki rules? if not, email me and we can talk (email i have no problem with). wyndham

Stel Pavlou[edit]

Hi there,

I noticed Stel Pavlou's page has been marked considered for deletion based on non-notability. I'm pretty sure the page makes it clear that he's definitely notable. Hoping the deletion won't go ahead.

SkyTint (talk) 21:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I've known Stev for years. He's a real person and the information on his page is correct. It appears he's being attacked by a troll. His page should remain. user:red1

I agree. The person who is doing this (Davey2010) is being extremely rude and should not have editor privileges. Denverite2017


Wow great minds think alike[3], Even your timing was the exact same, So weird knowing we both filed at the exact same time!,
Anyway just wanted to thank you for filing it as well as for your continued help with the AFD prcoess, I know it's a thankless task but we all appreciate your work here!, Happy editing :), –Davey2010Talk 22:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Deleted articles and essays on Takeshi Murata, Thom Andersen, Arthur Lipsett and Harun Farocki.[edit]

Hello Shawn,

I am sorry if I have infringed any Wikipedia laws on publishing bibliographical references on Takeshi Murata, Arthur Lipsett or Harun Farocki´s wikipedia. Honestly, we just wanted to contribute with further scholar and academic writings published in a double-blind peer review journal. The purpose of this message is to try to kindly understand just a little bit some confusing aspects of your actions.

How can these essays and articles be interpreted as advertisements? They have the same nature that many other references already published in these particular wikipedia pages. Are the new introduced references less important than those that link with other film magazines references previously listed (Senses of Cinema´s link in Arthur Lipsett´s page, by instance)? An other example: Why Takeshi Murata´s wikipedia website maintains a link to a page that sells Takeshi Murata´s DVDs and Books meanwhile is delated a reference that links to an essay recently published by a film studies journal? Ours is a extremely modest journal, lacking of economical potential, but created to disseminate and support marginal filmmaking practices.

Thank you Shawn for providing us more useful information that help us to understand this policy.

Anne — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne Lima35 (talkcontribs) 09:47, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Pat Stogran living person page update[edit]

Hello Shawn from Montreal. I am contacting you because I saw you participated in a discussion on this page:

Retired Colonel Pat Stogran is currently preparing to run for the leadership of Canada's NDP. In the past, maybe a decade ago, I tried to update another living persons page and it didn't go so well. All my changes got reversed. I think I may have annoyed some people and I accept their judgement. I'm too partisan or something. I thought since maybe you have experience I could forward you information on Pat Stogran situation and other information as suggested by the current citations and leave it to your best judgement on what to edit. Might that work?

I donate $4 per year to wikipedia if that helps.

Thanks in advance David Ross Mann DaveMannBrantNDP 21:36, 24 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DMannBrantNDP (talkcontribs)


Hi Shawn. I think I've finally got it. I added an additional citation to the Hiawatha page. The other citation I was going to use did not add any new information to the page. What are your priorities for the Canadian Film Project? Where can I best be used? Do you consider the Canadian Feature Film Database a legitimate citation? Cheers.Wyndham Paul Wise (talk) 05:39, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi. A few points:
I added a sentence about Hiawatha being "the first dramatic narrative film." @Bearcat: short as it is, would you say it's ready for article space at this length? @Wyndham Paul Wise:, is there any other relevant content from the three references that could be added?
As for priorities for Canadian film in Wikipedia, I would defer to Bearcat. If there is a de facto leader of Canadian film -- or maybe it's official, I don't even know -- it's him.
If you mean Canadian Feature Film Database -- which I don't think it I have ever so much as looked at before, it would certainly be a legitimate way of WP:Verifying credits. But because it says it "compiles the principal credits of every Canadian feature film from 1913 to 2006," it couldn't be used to establish notability. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Hi, I can add more text to the Hiawatha page, no prob. Thanks for the note on the Database. Credits, but not notability. Got it. A few more questions: (1) In the Evageline page (1913) I removed a bad link and added some good ones. However, the bad link stills appears on the Wiki page, even though I deleted on the edit page. (2) How do you feel about the Shipman films. Back to God's Country is fine, but what about the other ones. I have info on all of them, I would think they are notable. (3) How do you feel about the Quota Quickies, that grouping of American produced films during the early 30s. I notice some of them have a page, some don't. Do you consider those films notable? Personally I don't, except for the two made by Edgar G. Ulmer (one of which has a page, the other doesn't).Wyndham Paul Wise (talk) 15:31, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Please review Abiogenic -> Abiogenesis[edit]

Please check the article content, I believe this is a false redirect. There are biogenic and abiogenic minerals, which has nothing to to do with abiogenesis, the first creation of life on earth. Thanks! --Gregor Hagedorn (talk) 23:33, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Hi, thank you for your contributions in AfD. Your work is greatly appreciated! ComputerJA () 02:52, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Mars race[edit]

Hi. Following your comments at the AfD on Mars race I tagged the article for merging. The discussion is here. Andyjsmith (talk) 06:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

about user SKZssZZ[edit]

I find it Strange how this user is making such frequent edits. If you check the history of the article you just nominated for afd, it is filled by his edits. I was trying to look for my particular edit to that article (a declined speedy) but just couldn't manage to find it. I'm seriously doubting multiple users are using this account (or a hidden bot maybe). I've never been to ANI so do you think we should report this user to ANI/AIV? Yashovardhan (talk) 16:33, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Thanks very much for your help with these. I don't know about the bot thing -- it seems to me he's making these many minor edits manually. You don't think that's possible? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
    • on second thoughts, that's highly likely. His editing pattern is certainly weird though. I guess there was also a small sock puppet allegation on his talk page (though not worth an spi as the other account is now dormant). Thanks for your AFDs as well! Yashovardhan (talk) 16:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


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Copyright problem on Mike Kanentakeron Mitchell[edit]

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Merger discussion for Cauby - I'd Start All Over Again[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—Cauby - I'd Start All Over Again—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Mathglot (talk) 06:39, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Din of Celestial Birds[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—Din of Celestial Birds—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Paleface Jack (talk) 19:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Burano (building)[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—Burano (building)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Jack N. Stock (talk) 03:48, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Film stub notability checklist[edit]

Hi Shawn, Very glad to see you're still dedicated to WPFilms. I don't see many active hands of the old guard around. I'm just on a ten-years-after spree, checking on some of the project developments doing some gnoming around and also for some unknown reason I'm compiling a work list for film stubs that have been tagged for notability. It's a kind of personal study into what users raise an eyebrow against and tag it and what stuff -of equal notability- goes by in a general sense of acceptability. But also , if any task force is still into doing this sort of thing, I could notify somewhere about its existence, maybe some to-do list somewhere. Any ideas? Cheers. Hoverfish Talk 02:29, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Hi, yes, it's nice to hear from you again after all these years. I'm sorry but I'm not aware of any task force above and beyond WikiProject Film, which I'm not directly involved with. I made a decision some years ago to steer clear of these groups. The one exception is WP Canada, I guess, where I am a little more involved in discussions, etc. In the film and film stub area there are a handful of editors who seem to most of the assessing and I'd ask them. Sorry I can't be more help and welcome back. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:28, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

How did you do it in AfD?[edit]

I saw you del-sorting some AfD, and you inserted blue lines within the notes. How did you do it? Kimdly ping me when you reply. —usernamekiran(talk) 15:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Wondering why you marked kris r degioia for speedy deletion[edit]

Not trying to start a fight but wondering why you would mark it as that. Did you see no other tweet made by winkipiedia has gotten that much traction for articles in creation. If it needs help then help us please! Chris nadeau 21:59, 8 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisnadeau1973 (talkcontribs)

Any Type of discussions regarding Kris Degioia[edit]

Any sort of (AFC) or discussion on Kris Degioia needs to be directed to Mkdwtalk as he is the one and only admin that can make changes or answer your questions--Cybercrimes (talk) 16:08, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 June 2017[edit]

The Signpost: 23 June 2017[edit]

You've got mail![edit]

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There are no WP policies against attempting to be funny on an AfD, are there? And Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules says that sometimes we have to use common sense and ignore policies and say "I just don't think an article about a pool belongs" which is what I did. I'm in the clear minority, but there's no need to take anything I said personally. No need to reply unless you feel like it, cheers. ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐁT₳LKᐃ 13:17, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

You have been here long enough that you should know better, but in case you don't[edit]

Per the note at the top of WP:AN, you *must* inform editors that you have brought an issue that involves them to the page. Were I not assuming good faith that this was an oversight on your part, I could assume you were trying to do a end-run. Kind regards, Syrthiss (talk) 12:20, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

  • I'm pretty good in fact obsessive about notifying people at Afd -- but have never brought a matter to WP:AN, far as I recall. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:39, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
    • Well, the day we stop learning new things is the day we stop growing. Kind regards, Syrthiss (talk) 12:51, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
      • Oh yes. I learned something. And I also learned a new way to be late for work. Now to the shower! best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)


Reads- 'This is a high level category for deletion sorting. It is strongly recommended you do not add discussions directly to it. Instead, please add them to a more specific category, such as a state and/or relevant subject area.' You should not have entered the AFD for Jeff King consultant there. The proper AFD deletion is Iowa. He is the son of an Iowa Congressman....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

  • I do consider these things carefully. It seemed that his claim to notability was running the PAC for Ted Cruz's national candidacy, but if it was the state seat bid only, I'd agree. I actually share the same concerns as you about clogging up the national USA sorting, but in this case I had understood that the article subject was tied to Cruz's national GOP ticket bid, too. In which case it should go in both. But thanks for the advice. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:32, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Games‎[edit]

So when I added four recent additions to the list, I did not place notices on the AfD pages the way you did with A Penny for my Thoughts. Is that a step in the procedure, that I missed? If so, could you do it, or do you need me to rectify my mistake? Thanks. Newimpartial (talk) 13:41, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

  • @Newimpartial: Yes the notice should always be placed in the Afd to avoid duplications, I see you've added at least one other games Afd without tagging the Afd. It sounds like you're doing it manually, as opposed to using the delsort tab? You'd need to create a user subpage called User:Newimpartial/monobook.js if you don't already have one -- then copypaste add importScript( 'User:Newimpartial/delsort.js' );// Backlink: User:Newimpartial/delsort.js; That ought to work. I'm afraid I can't be much help if it doesn't. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:01, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I was doing it manually following the instructions on the category page. I'll add the script and try to make the tab work - if not, I'll work out some kind of a kludge, later. The oldest of them, Blades in the Dark, was only posted to AfD two days ago so a few more hours without the template won't hurt anybody. Newimpartial (talk) 17:08, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Coherent catastrophism[edit]

I am notifying everyone who took part in the first AfD about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coherent catastrophism (2nd nomination). Doug Weller talk 12:07, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 5 August 2017[edit]


Hello! I am currently identifying and categorizing subjects I photographed during my recent trip to Montreal. If you're generally curious, you can view my photographs here. But my question now is, do you know the subject is this image? I took this photograph in Chinatown, but I am having difficulty learning more about this bust. Would you happen to know? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:49, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

It's the stylized Olympic Flame outside "Olympic House," mentioned here. No idea of its name or artist, and again, I for one am not sure it's independently notable. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:04, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I can't find more than what you found. I was just curious so I could create an appropriate Commons category. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
There is one. It's . I'd suggest you add it there, perhaps. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:13, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:50, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

To capitalize or not to capitalize[edit]

My apologies, but for some reason I wasn't getting proper notification-queue alerts yesterday — I'm presuming some kind of browser bug at my end, as I'm not seeing any indication that the notifications weren't working on the server side. But I literally got no bell notifications yesterday at all, and suddenly had over a dozen when I checked in this morning. At any rate, yeah, do whatever you need to do — I'm one of those who was taught (wrongly) that the rule was just to lowercase any word shorter than a certain number of letters regardless of its grammatical function, which is neither the real rule nor the one we follow on here, so things like "in" and "it" and "on" and "or" do trip me up sometimes because I have two different instincts competing for primacy in my brain. Bearcat (talk) 13:50, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

  • @Bearcat: Thanks. I thought what you did in this case was simply copy someone else's miscapitalization or it was just a keystroke error because in this case your instinct and the grammatical rules coincide -- but it's bloody complicated according to the style guides because "or" is a coordinating rather than subordinating conjunction, per MOS:CT. Oy. Anyway, I'm on it. And I will try to help with some of your TIFF 2017 work if I can. My life is just a bit topsy turvy right now. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:02, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Well, yeah, basically that's what I did do — but I did catch the capitalization error in the second "to" in the process, so I can't entirely handwave the whole thing away as somebody else's error. Bearcat (talk) 14:20, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 September 2017[edit]

The Signpost: 25 September 2017[edit]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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full form of SPA?[edit]

Hi Shawn :)
Is it sock-puppet account? Or something else? —usernamekiran(talk) 23:18, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Restoration of Rainbow Tribe disambiguation page[edit]

Hi Shawn,

Last spring you opened an aFd discussion which resulted in paring down an older disambiguation page to a redirect. I was available then for the opening of that discussion, but unfortunately not for its closing a month later. I finally had a little time today to address your original question a bit further, which I have attempted to do on that page's Talk page. I will be happy to try to do my best to answer any further questions you may have about this, on that Talk page. Sorry for not being able to participate in the closing of that conversation earlier.


Scott P. (talk) 13:21, 6 October 2017 (UTC)