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Ciao! Thanks for your comments & help. Haven't got much time right now, but as I am interested by any links you can provide (and help in translating, I read Italian but not as well as English!) Please take the time to correct factual mistakes concerning the judges & such, it is important ! (and such mistakes don't contribute to Wikipedia's reliancy - you don't need to study law to find them important). Grazie, Tazmaniacs
- Hi! will definitely watch-out those things, quite busy however in the time being. I'll catch up later, and will add to your page any interesting info I stumble upon. It's a very important case, which should be closely followed (although we may guess on the conclusion...) Tazmaniacs
- Saw your remarks on the article talk page. You may post your replies wherever you want. I personally prefer people to reply on talk pages of article (in order to avoid pointless POV - point of view - fights and stupid debates with people who don't agree with you). This is mainly aimed against having people trying to engage you personally in endless debates, as if Wiki was a forum for political debates. Leaving comments to talk pages of article enables to desindividualize the debate, and if you have any criticisms or comments to add, it is helpful to leave a note on talk page, especially for controversial things (in case someone revert, someone else will put it back for you). Finally, see WP:Footnotes (I prefer footnotes using <ref> and without WP:Citation templates - this last because of link rot.) Must leave, I left you the "welcome" for others guidelines. Cheers! Tazmaniacs
- Ciao! seems you wrote a draft intro, but I can't find it. Don't worry too much about your English, it will be copy-edited. Facts are more important. Tazmaniacs
- I can't just now, but I'll read closely what you read later on the week and help with the translation. Meanwhile, you can use that for a first start, it's not that bad if you review it. On a different topic, I was recently checking Fascism and Italian Fascism, the latter in particular really need work... As it some editors out there are not inclined to debate, it is better to explain on talk page mistakes (like that, if they are introduced when you're not watching, someone may take them off again). Ciao! Tazmaniacs
- Ciao! seems you wrote a draft intro, but I can't find it. Don't worry too much about your English, it will be copy-edited. Facts are more important. Tazmaniacs
- Ciao! I saw you started it:Caso Abu Omar. Good idea! However, there seems to be some little things on Italian Wiki (as much as some other, foreign language wikis, where not many contributors participate - treshold of numbers seems very important on Wikipedia - and even the English wiki has not that much regular contributors, but enough to avoid such issues) which are rather unnerving. Here, it seems that there is pression (or systemic bias?) to transfer such pages to Italian Wikinews. I urge you to argue heavily against this, pointing out that this is an important, already historical affair; that it is not a matter of news for one day, but spans over several years; that it is one of the most documented case of extraordinary rendition; that the English Wiki has a page on it and that your translation allows coherence and swinging back & forth between the different Wikis (helping to improve version on both way by maximizing the number of possible contributors and the attention payed to what happens), etc. Frankly, the Wikinews project seems to be a total failure! (I don't know who's going to read Wikinews when we already have paid journalists who do the job, and independent media who do the "independent work" lot better than what Wikinews could achieve - the Wiki technology (co-editing) is not, IMO, very appropriate for writing news article. Wikipedia gives background of news which are only quickly given by news article, backed-up by a variety of sources (news articles, but also official reports, etc.) Cheers! (note that the same request has been made, with somehow more legitimity although I still disagree with it, for it:Scandalo Telecom-Sismi - one reason you may put forward against such request is that even those belong to news, they are still important historical events to be documentated. Readers often stumble upon it years after their creation, which they will never do on Wikinews (I recently stumbled upon the very important Alliance Base article, created on the grounds of, at first, only one news article!) Finally, creation of categories need to be "filled": someone created the Greek telephone tapping case 2004-2005 some years ago, I participated to it, and not much happened afterwards. I've since created "Category:Surveillance scandals", and instead of having only US-centered scandals, we also had this one, which, what a surprise, pointed out towards US responsibilities. In brief, such "news article" actually help get the big picture of things...) Tazmaniacs 14:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi! What do you think of [1]? I think this is the interview... Tazmaniacs 16:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ciao! I saw you started it:Caso Abu Omar. Good idea! However, there seems to be some little things on Italian Wiki (as much as some other, foreign language wikis, where not many contributors participate - treshold of numbers seems very important on Wikipedia - and even the English wiki has not that much regular contributors, but enough to avoid such issues) which are rather unnerving. Here, it seems that there is pression (or systemic bias?) to transfer such pages to Italian Wikinews. I urge you to argue heavily against this, pointing out that this is an important, already historical affair; that it is not a matter of news for one day, but spans over several years; that it is one of the most documented case of extraordinary rendition; that the English Wiki has a page on it and that your translation allows coherence and swinging back & forth between the different Wikis (helping to improve version on both way by maximizing the number of possible contributors and the attention payed to what happens), etc. Frankly, the Wikinews project seems to be a total failure! (I don't know who's going to read Wikinews when we already have paid journalists who do the job, and independent media who do the "independent work" lot better than what Wikinews could achieve - the Wiki technology (co-editing) is not, IMO, very appropriate for writing news article. Wikipedia gives background of news which are only quickly given by news article, backed-up by a variety of sources (news articles, but also official reports, etc.) Cheers! (note that the same request has been made, with somehow more legitimity although I still disagree with it, for it:Scandalo Telecom-Sismi - one reason you may put forward against such request is that even those belong to news, they are still important historical events to be documentated. Readers often stumble upon it years after their creation, which they will never do on Wikinews (I recently stumbled upon the very important Alliance Base article, created on the grounds of, at first, only one news article!) Finally, creation of categories need to be "filled": someone created the Greek telephone tapping case 2004-2005 some years ago, I participated to it, and not much happened afterwards. I've since created "Category:Surveillance scandals", and instead of having only US-centered scandals, we also had this one, which, what a surprise, pointed out towards US responsibilities. In brief, such "news article" actually help get the big picture of things...) Tazmaniacs 14:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)