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Archived 2011[edit]

I archived 31 topics of 2011 in /Archive_6. -Wikid77 17:20, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I archived 11 topics of 2011 in /Archive_6. -Wikid77 20:12, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I archived 37 topics of 2011 in /Archive_6. -Wikid77 12:52, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I archived 13 more topics of 2011 in /Archive_6. -Wikid77 13:10, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Archived 2012[edit]

I archived 50 topics of 2012 in /Archive_7. -Wikid77 05:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I archived 76 more topics of 2012 in /Archive_7. -Wikid77 12:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Archived 2013[edit]

I archived 47 topics of 2013 in /Archive_8. -Wikid77 11:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I archived 58 topics of 2013 in /Archive_8. -Wikid77 07:38, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

I archived 7 topics of 2013 in /Archive_8. -Wikid77 14:46, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Archived 2014[edit]

I archived 84 topics of 2014 in /Archive_9. -Wikid77 14:57, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Archived 2015[edit]

I archived 12 topics of 2015 in /Archive_10. -Wikid77 15:17, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

I heard what happened to your fireworks last night.

Irkutsk Fire 1879 Romanov.jpg

I wish you better luck this New Year. Face-smile.svg Caballero//Historiador 16:31, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Date formats[edit]

Hi Wikid77, just in case you did not notice, date=04/12/2001 means 4 December 2001 in Scotland (and more generally in the UK).

Best regards -- KlausFoehl (talk) 09:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

RKO[edit]

Thanks for fixing that for me. Just went to do it after getting the bot notification. Appreciate it. Onel5969 TT me 01:36, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Help talk:CS1[edit]

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Stop edit warring. Multiple editors have reverted your changes. --Izno (talk) 02:22, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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Question[edit]

HI. I'm enjoying our conversation on Jimbo's page. I have a question for you: Why do we have bots that do this? I learned <i> and </i>, <b> and </b> and Wikipedia is one of the few places I can use it!  :). All those single quotes look awful and are so confusing. What is the advantage? I just use the html codes and let it fix them rather than trying to remember if I am supposed to use 2, 3 or 5 of the single quotes, since it is faster for me. But I do worry that maybe it messes something up. I'm hoping there is a good explanation for it. --David Tornheim (talk) 11:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I think the MediaWiki software has always used 5 tics around bold-italic text, but the wp:CS1 templates generate interim HTML "<i>" tags to italicize any title, including end-apostrophe as in "Livin' and Givin' " or such. Even worse the template parameters are coded as triple-brace "{{{x}}}" which confuses with a template's double-brace syntax "}}" where parameters could become "#[x]" as an alternate syntax to improve readability of markup. Jimbo installed the original wiki software to turn dismal Nupedia into successful Wikipedia and probably remembers, if not afraid to discuss. -Wikid77 (talk) 12:00, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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Diffs for long lines[edit]

You might be interested in T128697 "Investigate increasing limit for word-level diffs" apparently there is 10K byte limit before word rather than paragraph level diff's kick in. --Salix alba (talk): 04:24, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Reference errors on 6 March[edit]

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new pays per day -- Sweden off the charts for Jan. 2016[edit]

I was looking at the wiki-data for new articles per day and Sweden was off the charts for Jan. 2016 with 12,000 per day [1]. Do you know if that has been fixed and if the appropriate admins. know about it? I'm guessing it is some kind of spam... --David Tornheim (talk) 07:54, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I think the Swedish WP has been doing a Bot-upload of species pages; as Sweden has the highest per-capita robotics society in the world, it was just a matter of time for them to mass automate new articles. -Wikid77 (talk) 08:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


One more question on data, since I am here already: Do you know what is going on with this website that used to track page views on wikipedia articles? It seems that it stopped collecting data on 1/21/16. Is there a better one now? --David Tornheim (talk) 08:00, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

That was User:Henrik, who has been taking 3-month breaks for years, and might restore the missing weeks upon his return. -Wikid77 (talk) 08:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Question about edits and edit summary on Atayalangal[edit]

Hi Wikid77. I noticed this edit with this edit summary at Atayalangal:

(20 changes: ce; fix cite for 2nd date & pre-spaced cite bars)

  1. What are the 20 changes?
  2. Where is the copy edit?
  3. Where is the fix cite for 2nd date & pre-spaced cite bars?
  4. What was the purpose of any of these changes?
  5. Why are you deleting unused citation parameters?

Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 20:24, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Checkingfax:, most of the 20 changes were spaces between the cite parameters, but also changed 2nd date to be "access-date=" and removed unused "author=" and "date=" to focus on parameters which are used, not unused. The unused parameters tend to clutter the markup and would bog a search for actual "author" where used. The copy-edit also removed space in name "M. G. Sasi" to be "M.G. Sasi" without the peculiar space between the initials. -Wikid77 (talk) 23:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Wikid77. Good call on changing the 2nd date= to accessdate=
However, IMHO, if names have spaces they should be left. This is customary. For instance:
M. C. Escher, J. R. R. Tolkien, F. Scott Fitzgerald, etc.
You may notice that for M.G. Sasi he is M. G. Sasi in the lead and in the infobox.
Unused citation parameters should be left intact unless they are deprecated or excessive. date= and author=, even if blank, should be left in place for a cite news or cite web template as this metadata may become available to a future editor and then they can pop it right in there. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 00:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
@checkingfax - I disagree on both counts. Spaces between initials are fine for titles, standard form and all that, but it is not the convention for the small type within the body of an article, or a book, or a newspaper article, or a website. It is a peculiar affectation. Bear in mind that links should not be broken to tighten up the initials. As for deleting the ridiculous clutter of unused fields in info boxes and citation templates, this is, as Wikid indicates, beneficial for future editors. In a just world citation templates would be banned outright since they are nearly impossible for new editors to navigate. Anything to make the editing process for new editors less burdensome is for the good. Best regards, — Tim /// Carrite (talk) 15:51, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Carrite. I was not addressing you, but since you're here I shall reply to you. I think you need to read this thread again. I am the one that said leaving the author= and date= parameters in place is helpful for future editors. You seem to have synthesized our comments. Also, let me highlight for you: Unused citation parameters should be left intact unless they are deprecated or excessive. Leaving author= and date= in place is not excessive, but is helpful. As for spaces between initials in names and after the full stops the Chicago Manual of Style requires it, but on Wikipedia we only ask that you be consistent in an article; once the style is set, stick with it, regardless of your personal preference, bias, or how silly you think it looks. As for citation templates being "ridiculous", what is your alternative suggestion for preventing linkrot and providing harvestable metadata? What is an easier and better citation method new editors? Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 16:19, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

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Access dates prior to the start of Wikipedia[edit]

[2] Do not "fix" access dates that are from prior to Wikipedia's start date. Especially, do not "fix" anything without actually fixing the problem. Thanks. --Izno (talk) 16:24, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

YHWH[edit]

personal name.—Ps 83:18.Correct Pronunciation of the Divine Name. “Jehovah” is the best known English pronunciation of the divine name, although “Yahweh” is favored by most Hebrew scholars. The oldest Hebrew manuscripts present the name in the form of four consonants, commonly called the Tetragrammaton (from Greek te·tra-, meaning “four,” and gramʹma, “letter”). These four letters (written from right to left) are יהוה and may be transliterated into English as YHWH (or, JHVH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CD90:F30:D441:E190:47C9:9959 (talk) 00:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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Unnamed parameter handling[edit]

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Empty bold tags[edit]

Hi! I'm just wondering if you remember why you used empty bold tags like <b/>, for example in this edit. Also, do you know if you used such tags in other templates, and do other authors do it too? Apparently it breaks our prototype solution for phab:T89331 so I'm trying to work out whether we need to implement a fix. -- Tim Starling (talk) 23:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Editors have been using null tags for years like "<b/>" or "<span/>" (beyond null nowiki, "<nowiki/>") as escape-tokens to allow lead/trailing-spaces or leading semicolon ";" with only 4-to-7-character tokens rather than the 40-to-80-character nowiki tags, to avoid extra bytes in each template, with the wp:expansion depth limit "wp:post-expand include size" being only 2,000 kb rather than 2.5 mb or more. -Wikid77 (talk) 17:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
So it's a workaround for phab:T14974? (Implicit newline insertion before * # : ; {|) Obviously <nowiki/> is the "right" way to do that, I guess (if we can't think of something better) -- I wonder if there's anyway to tell how many pages would really be broken (read, exceed the expansion depth limit) by replacing <b/> with <nowiki/>? Perhaps we could bump the limit from 2MB to 2.5MB at the same time as we get rid of the hack? C. Scott Ananian (talk) 19:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
I don't know how many pages use null-bold or null-span tags, among the current 5 million articles, but the massive wp:CS1 Lua cite templates, each, use about 2kb[!] of expansion space of the "wp:post-expand include size" to mega-hog, mega-waste the resource, and pages have been hackified smaller for years, such as "List of The Simpsons episodes" to fit the include-size limit. I don't think ruining pages matters any longer, as so many editors are ready to hackify the next oversized page, and users are accustomed to seeing 50,000 botched pages scarred with cite wp:reftag or other cite red-error messages. Just improve the wp:parser functions, and many editors will update more botched pages, as the coming months permit, among 50,000 other pages botched by templates. Keep up the improvements, and the wiki-gnome editors will further adjust thousands of pages as needed. Thanks. -Wikid77 (talk) 02:24, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Wikid, please give a specific example of a page that nowiki instead of b would push over the limit. I doubt any actually exist. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Many editors are working to hackify large pages as smaller. There have been over 450 pages in "Category:Pages where expansion depth is exceeded". It is difficult to keep aware of the thousands of botched pages for all the various problems. -Wikid77 (talk) 02:24/02:29, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
In that case, this "solution" is completely unnecessary, as it's not even solving the right problem: making the expansion size smaller doesn't help pages where the depth is too high. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:47, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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A bit confused[edit]

I didn't really understand the relevance of your comment at Jimbo's page. My feeling is that a bit of "Second Amendment" editing, like describing the manufacture of a sutari or W-18, helps to put the general populace in a stronger position relative to gangs and governments. Hopefully, without needing to be used, or even preparing people to resist its use; but if it is, it is their moral choice what to do. As for prophecy, well, I would distinguish it from precognition. I would say prophecy emerges from a deep understanding of the world, and does not recall the future, but perceives inevitability. Martin Luther King Jr. saying "I have a dream..." is prophecy. Even Isaiah writing (I would rather optimistically argue) about the Red Sea Dam development providing a new homeland for the Palestinians might be a prophecy. But to remember the future as it is rather than as it is meant to be ... that's altogether on the other side of the equation, a soul-eroding thing with unpredictable dangers and precious little good that can come out of it. (I don't believe Dixon manifested any of these things...) Wnt (talk) 23:29, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

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Cvt template[edit]

I regard {{cvt}} as a very useful variant; I wish I'd come across it before. Please don't use its documentation to try to fight battles over it. All that will happen if you do is that those who want to delete the template will succeed. The documentation needs to explain how to use the template, not put off potential users by showing that it's contoversial. I want this template to remain! Peter coxhead (talk) 15:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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Jimbo's talkpage[edit]

As someone who is half Italian by birth, the revolting stuff you keep putting on Jimbo's talkpage appalls me. Stop it now please, or next time it's going to WP:ANI. Laura Jamieson (talk) 22:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, as someone who has lived in Italy for years, I do not understand your concerns about what I wrote. Could you please clarify which aspects of my posts do you think are "revolting" or have appalled you. -Wikid77 (talk) 22:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
I think the link I provided on Jimbo's talkpage to your previous posting is enough. Laura Jamieson (talk) 23:06, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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Question about software to deal with multiple references[edit]

Hi. I know you are long time programmer and Wikipedia editor. I have come up against a challenge and curious if you know if we already have software to deal with it. The problem is when there are multiple references to be combined. I figured out long ago that you use <ref...name=X>...</ref> for the first instantiation, and then <ref...name=X/>...</ref> for each additional instance of it.

The question is what to do when you have a block of text with 20 references and you want to make two copies of the entire block in the article, and have the second copy's references all refer to the first, but you do not want to have to go in and change all 20 references by hand. We have that case because of the result of an RfC. Each copy has to be the exact same text and references.

I asked the question at the articles at these two places: Talk:Genetically_modified_food_controversies#citation_redundancy, Talk:Genetically_modified_food#citation_redundancy. Despite the fact that 88 people showed up to comment at this high stakes RfC, no one has responded to this!

This brings up another bigger question: I have noticed many articles have multiple instances of the same reference, often with slight variations (e.g. author's first name spelled out, or not, or items in wrong order, missing url in one, etc.). I assume it is because different editors contributed to the article and did not realize the reference was already there or they did not know how to use the citation templates, etc. It seems to me we could use a bot to go through the references in every article and look for duplicates with the goal of consolidating/simplifying. I doubt the bot could fix them directly unless all info. was clearly identical, but it could at least identify the redundancy and then if we have a tool to make it easy to fix redundancy, that would be excellent. I already feel like I could write such a thing in C or Perl using just the Wikitext. I have no idea what language the bots use. What do you think?

I did do a list of all the references that had name instantiations or instances for Genetically modified food controversies and it was interesting:

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--David Tornheim (talk) 18:47, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

The 2 blocks of text can have the same 20 cites as 20 named wp:reftags, and only those 20 will be listed (once) under "References" as each double-linked "a b"; however, the spacing of each cite must be identical between the 2 blocks of text.

There is no need to combine all duplicate cites, as in fact it can be better when text needs to be deleted or moved into another page, where other text using the same cites has complete copies of those cites. Long term, many thousands of pages need to be split (or "un-merged") to reduce pages to simple encyclopedic topic versus "history of <topic>" or lists of people, books, songs (etc.) about that topic. Having several, major cites duplicated could help simplify those page splits.

As for cites duplicated several times, I would avoid bots but let the many wp:wikignomes edit those pages because they seem to like such work, as compared to rewriting text or expanding pages with new content or better sources. Many users truly enjoy simple, repetitive work, or hiking edit-count, and would nitpick some other small details if bots fixed cites too much. For users who can write complex bots, their time would be better spent by (re)writing main mega-pages such as "Cogito ergo sum" or "Plato's Academy" or "Jennifer Lopez" to improve pages read millions of times rather than fix minor details in the unseen wikitext. By contrast, bots tend to be twisted to perform "hypercorrection" such as forcing rare dashes into text phrases where hyphens have been used for decades or centuries, as in ranges "A-Z". -Wikid77 (talk) 23:56, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Contests[edit]

User:Dr. Blofeld has created Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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Gender[edit]

Seems to have worked, at least for the time being. TimothyJosephWood 00:29, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Just curious ...[edit]

Hello, wikid77. I'm just curious about your edit to Sci-Hub. You changed <ref name=":4" /> to <ref name=":0" />. That got rid of the error message, but how did you determine that ":0" was the correct reference? Looking at reference ":0", it doesn't seem to contain any material that would back up the statement that it's supposed to be referring to. Thanks for your attention. --Akhooha (talk) 21:33, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

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