Wikipedia talk:Featured picture candidates/Ecchi 2
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[edit]- Other oppose "reasons" aside. This image is also available as SVG and nearly identical to the first version. The reason to nominate the JPEG export is because of rendering bugs inside librsvg used by Wikimedia software. But i also guess that it doesn't matter which version does get nominated. Because of reason #1 it will always be the wrong version of this image. ;-) --Niabot (talk) 16:20, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Something can be featured and not go on the main page. That's not a reason to vote against it. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Melodia, normally, you would be correct, but as Raeky explained, it has been determined that this image would go on the main page if featured. As so, in this case, Raeky's argument is a reasonable one provided we agree that this does not belong on the main page (I am not sure whether I do, but that doesn't mean I am going to pretend that the argument is not reasonable). J Milburn (talk) 18:30, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is this a voting about images or moral issues? --Niabot (talk) 18:40, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am starting to wonder that keeping in mind that wikipedia is Not Censored, and votes should be about the image at hand here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- A good example of WP:NOTCENSORED was a picture (although not on the English Wikipedia) on the main page in the German Wikipedia, a picture of a vulva (which was Today's Featured Article). Regards.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 19:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes- all hell broke loose, with Jimbo and others criticising the choice. Niabot, making a call about whether something is suitable for the main page of this website is very different from speaking out against the subject; I think you are somewhat prone to take this to heart. I think we can all agree that a picture of two adults having consensual sex in the missionary position would be inappropriate for the main page, but that would not be to make any judgement about the act or the fact that it was photographed. J Milburn (talk) 22:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is this your only reason for your current reaction? That would be shamefull, indeed. The kind of comparison is more then shamefull. --Niabot (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I am not sure what you mean. I am not trying to compare this image to a photograph of people having sex, I am merely using that as an example of an image we would all, I hope, agree does not belong on the main page. Could you please stop jumping to these conclusions? J Milburn (talk) 22:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is an bad example to do so. Since it implicates a very different case, which some might see much more offensive, distracting from the actual subject. --Niabot (talk) 00:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I am not sure what you mean. I am not trying to compare this image to a photograph of people having sex, I am merely using that as an example of an image we would all, I hope, agree does not belong on the main page. Could you please stop jumping to these conclusions? J Milburn (talk) 22:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is this your only reason for your current reaction? That would be shamefull, indeed. The kind of comparison is more then shamefull. --Niabot (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes- all hell broke loose, with Jimbo and others criticising the choice. Niabot, making a call about whether something is suitable for the main page of this website is very different from speaking out against the subject; I think you are somewhat prone to take this to heart. I think we can all agree that a picture of two adults having consensual sex in the missionary position would be inappropriate for the main page, but that would not be to make any judgement about the act or the fact that it was photographed. J Milburn (talk) 22:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- A good example of WP:NOTCENSORED was a picture (although not on the English Wikipedia) on the main page in the German Wikipedia, a picture of a vulva (which was Today's Featured Article). Regards.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 19:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am starting to wonder that keeping in mind that wikipedia is Not Censored, and votes should be about the image at hand here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is this a voting about images or moral issues? --Niabot (talk) 18:40, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Melodia, normally, you would be correct, but as Raeky explained, it has been determined that this image would go on the main page if featured. As so, in this case, Raeky's argument is a reasonable one provided we agree that this does not belong on the main page (I am not sure whether I do, but that doesn't mean I am going to pretend that the argument is not reasonable). J Milburn (talk) 18:30, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Second Nomination
[edit]- Comment: The SVG version of this was already nominated and generated a huge amount of argument after which there was no consensus. Nominating the JPG version of the same file seems like deliberate trouble making. Can we just assume that there isn't going to be an agreement here and move on?--RDBury (talk) 19:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Its a different version. That are two different images. Both of them have a SVG versions and i was asked to nominate the image again after some time, since no consensus could be found last year. --Niabot (talk) 20:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- It does seem strange though that you didn't nominate the one that is a FP on three other projects... Clearly that one has more global consensus and use? I do agree with RDBury here that I think there was at least some attempt to bypass the previous discussion by not nominating the same image that is linked to it. — raekyt 20:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- So you accuse me of bad faith, just because i created this version as the result of the last criticism on the use of the dutch angle? Very interesting maneuver. --Niabot (talk) 20:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- (ec) I propose you (Niabot) add the first image as an alt. Then we can simply decide which one is better.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 20:22, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- So you accuse me of bad faith, just because i created this version as the result of the last criticism on the use of the dutch angle? Very interesting maneuver. --Niabot (talk) 20:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- It does seem strange though that you didn't nominate the one that is a FP on three other projects... Clearly that one has more global consensus and use? I do agree with RDBury here that I think there was at least some attempt to bypass the previous discussion by not nominating the same image that is linked to it. — raekyt 20:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Its a different version. That are two different images. Both of them have a SVG versions and i was asked to nominate the image again after some time, since no consensus could be found last year. --Niabot (talk) 20:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Consensus can change, the last voting did take place last year. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)