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Issues in Cham Albanians[edit]

Recently i rewrote part of the article in relation to the Cham Albanians, by adding many important (western) sources that have not been accessible to many. They are by Western scholars who have done fieldwork in Thesprotia, accessed the Greek government archive, non impartial nineteenth century observers of the situation. In the article i included sources that one were not Albanian (as Albanian sources are accused of being biased and in-factual by Greek editors). I included in the article, academics that were importantly of Greek heritage. I also included in the footnotes the relevant pieces of information of were that information came from to prevent a deletion and have a serious discussion. Yet when i came to the article, all i saw was complete deletion !!! I was accused of POV !!! I ask, is this how wikipedia works, that when a credible source/s is given, it gets deleted without even proper discussion ? I ask fellow wikpedians is this the type quality we are after ? I am currently in postgraduate studies, and stifling of discussion is unacceptable. Its about scholarly debate. I still don't understand how i was pushing POV. For example, in the section about Chams today in Greece, i came across sources that have encountered Orthodox Albanian speaking populations. There also still exists a Albanian Muslim Cham community. Yet that got deleted. Voltaire once said "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it". I thus ask Alexikoua to justify each one of her deletions ? Otherwise she is pushing POV ! I request you assistance for Cham Albanians page.

Resnjari (talk) 03:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Assistance is needed on a Topic[edit]

Albania is mistakenly listed as an Axis force instead of an Ally. As a knowledgeable person can you intervene? -- I created a talk topic under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Allies_of_World_War_II#Editors_Needed_On_Clarifying_the_Albanian_Case -- The facts are clearly there, but I cannot edit it and there need to be more people involved to convince a Editor which does not know the basics of WW2 in the Balkans. --

Editors Needed On Clarifying the Albanian Case[edit] Dear Editors, -- Please let me kindly invite you to investigate and clarify the status of Albania as an Allied force. Since there is an editor below who unilaterally refuse even considering the provided facts and historical sources, then I invite a quorum of other editors (preferable with knowledge on WW2 history and Balkans) to investigate the case. Best Regards LupinoJacky (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2015 (UTC) Albania was an Ally state, the book "Enciclopedia of World War II, Volume 1, Section "Treaties Ending the War", Page 824, ISBN-10: 0816060223, ISBN-13: 978-0816060221" acknowledges that Albania signed the peace treaties in the end of WW2 as an Allied country. Citing page 824: "The first peace treaty concluded between the Allies and a former Axis nation was with Italy. It was signed in Paris on February, 10, 1947, by representatives from Albania, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Czechoslovakia, Ethipia, France, Great Britain, Greece, India, Iraq, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zeeland, Pakistan, Poland, Slovak Republic, South Africa, the Soviet Union, the United States, Yugoslavia, and Italy." (weblink https://books.google.de/books?id=LbWFgjW6KX8C&pg=PA824&lpg=PA824&dq=WW2+allied+and+associated+powers+albania&source=bl&ots=ehfHi5vpFh&sig=IZ3bXd3OKFo71jBU3Abay6tt6ao&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h1bSVLe5OoT0UKCdgPAH&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=WW2%20allied%20and%20associated%20powers%20albania&f=false) Unless there is any source showing the contrary, please add Albania to this page, clarifying 1) the fighting contribution of the Albanian National Liberation Front and 2) the fighting contribution of the government in exile by King Zog in terms of 2.1. resisting the Italian invasion, 2.2. resisting throughout WW2 through the Legality Movement forces. LupinoJacky (talk) 17:39, 4 February 2015 (UTC) LupinoJacky (talk) 21:45, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

New administrative divisions[edit]

Hello, I see User:Kj1595 has started implementing a new administrative subdivision of Albania in several articles, for instance here, here and here. As far as I can see on this official website and this law text (pages 89-114 of 117), a new administrative division has been approved, but it will be implemented in 2015, after local elections (when?). It also looks like the old municipalities will remain as some sort of subunits. Could someone who can read Albanian (I have to use Google Translate for that, which is probably not very accurate) confirm this? And apparently, the districts have already been abolished in 2000? If so, I guess we have some work to do. I'll be happy to help. Markussep Talk 14:02, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I was following some of the cities of Albania, and then noticed that Kj1595 has gone into a destructionist spree, noticed by you, Markussep. Not sure who will fix all me mess that he has done in wikipedia, but in the meantime he should be blocked. No matter when the reform will be implemented, the articles should not be destroyed. --Rregulluesi (talk) 14:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I have posted a message on his/her talk page. I don't know whether he has been warned before that this is not the right way to edit, so I assumed good faith, let's see how he reacts. I suppose he is right that the districts have been abolished in 2000, this source confirms that. But the current municipalities should be restored for now, also in the county articles. BTW the source I quoted calls the "counties" "regions", apparently the term "county" comes from ISO. Markussep Talk 16:30, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I restored the county articles to the current situation, and found nice refs for the populations (also on current municipality level) here (2011 census results). Markussep Talk 14:07, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
I made an infobox template for places in Albania: {{Infobox settlement AL}}, a wrapper for {{Infobox settlement}}. It works for municipalities and villages. I've started adding it to municipality articles, adding the population according to the 2011 census at the same time. See for instance Lumas. Markussep Talk 19:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm nearly done adding the new infobox template to the current municipality articles. For now, I haven't added the districts they were part of. I'm not sure whether we need them, since apparently they were abolished 15 years ago. For the new situation after the local elections in June, I propose to convert the county templates (like {{Elbasan County}}) accordingly, so no more districts, but show the new municipalities on the left side, and their subdivisions (the old municipalities) on the right side, see {{Elbasan County new}}. We could call the old municipalities something like "municipal units". Probably in this case, we can reuse the district articles for the new municipalities. Since most of the new municipalities are expanded versions of old municipalities, I propose to modify the existing articles accordingly, and create new articles for the 11 other municipalities, like Kurbin. What do you think? Markussep Talk 14:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
I created articles for the 11 completely new municipalities. Also, I think we should replace the current templates showing villages by district (for instance {{Berat District}}) with templates showing villages by (new) municipality. Using a model used for Greek municipalities (they had a similar reform 4 years ago), I made this template: {{Berat div}}. For now, I used "municipal unit" for the subdivisions of the new municipalities (basically the old municipalities), I can easily change that for another term if we decide otherwise. Markussep Talk 19:30, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
The templates showing villages by new municipality are ready, see Category:Albania municipality templates. I also edited a few articles as examples for municipalities, municipal units and villages after the reform: Cërrik, Klos, Elbasan and Floq, Klos (note: I only edited the introductions, the infoboxes and the navbars). If noone objects, I will start editing the articles for the new municipalities accordingly, then the old municipalities (the new municipal units) and then the villages. Markussep Talk 09:50, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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Expert attention[edit]

This is a notice about Category:Albania articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 18:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)