User talk:Ardenn

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Hello, Ardenn, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Re: your reverts to CIVI, CFPL, CKNX, CHRO, and CHWI

Ardenn, recently you reverted a useful edit by 72.60.128.187 in the article on CIVI-TV. Following up on that change, I noticed that you had in fact proceeded to bulk-revert all of that same editor's additions to five different A-Channel stations. While you are correct in stating that the sale of CHUM assets to Bell hasn't completed yet, it does not invalidate the information about the sale. Those edits were relevant to the respective articles, and should not have been removed en masse. Please use caution in future before pursuing such actions. Thanks! --Ckatz 04:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop the unnecessary reverts on these pages. There is no need to undo this editor's work. Thank you. --Ckatz 04:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The sale of CHUM is irrelevant to the individual stations. The only article it belongs in is perhaps the main A-Channel and CHUM articles. I will revert it, because of the above."(Ardenn, replying on my talk page)

It is definitely relevant to the individual stations, as they are directly affected by this change. Trust me, as someone who has worked in media for the better part of two decades, "who owns you" is very relevant. Besides, you're now continually reverting information that two editors (at least) agree is important. The proper course of action would be to discuss the issue on a talk page, probably at A-Channel (or somewhere similar). Cheers. --Ckatz 04:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pursuant to this discussion (and to stop it from degenerating) I'm posting a note at A-Channel to initiate a discussion about this information. Hopefully, that will help to resolve things. Cheers. --Ckatz

"The other guy doesn't count. He's not registered. For all I know, he's you." (Ardenn, replying on my talk page)

Please, Ardenn, don't do this. Let's resolve this peacefully, okay? --Ckatz 04:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"In 24 hours, I'll be reverting your edits." (Ardenn, replying on my talk page)

I've no interest in playing games with Wiki rules, Ardenn. I've asked - quite nicely, I think - that we take this to a discussion. What do you have against that course of action? --Ckatz 04:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"I'll agree that who owns you is important, but the transaction isn't complete. Right now, it's only speculation. The CRTC may say no." (Ardenn, replying on my talk page)

"Speculation" is a bit of an understatement - yes, the CRTC may overturn the deal, but it probably will go through in some form. Regardless of the outcome, however, just the fact that the deal is pending is of direct relevance to each and every station. Furthermore, someone reading up on their local station may not click through to the main articles - but they still could stand to know about what is proposed. --Ckatz 04:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've posted a request for comment here and a call for discussion here to get some outside input on this matter. I would appreciate it if you could hold off on resuming your reversions to these articles so that there is sufficient time to allow people to comment. This is, I feel, a reasonable request. Thank you. --Ckatz 05:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help me

See User talk:Tawker -- Samir धर्म 05:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. He didn't even have the decency to let me know about the block. Ardenn 05:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd refrain from saying you'll revert changes in 24 hours though. I agree that is gaming 3RR. Don't think it's worth a block in my opinion, but it's not really a wise thing to say. -- Samir धर्म 05:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a 31 hour block. I checked the log. As I said, he didn't have the decency to tell me. Ardenn 05:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will e-mail Tawker -- Samir धर्म 05:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is a block message, I think I explained it in there. Per "In 24 hours, I'll be reverting your edits. Ardenn 04:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)" it leads me to strongly believe that you were attempting to game the 3RR system instead of discussing and reaching a compromise. While I agree it is not vandalism that one comment, and that comment alone led to this block which I believe was justified at the time. I'm taking another look at the edits in question and will take another look -- Tawker 06:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As an admin, you're still supposed to let people know why they're blocked. Ardenn 16:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me if I over-estimated you in assuming that you would read the block message, I figured the block reason would say plenty.... you know, it is there for a reason... it shouldn't be critical to have a talk page message saying the exact same -- Tawker 07:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CCOTW heads up

Since Flag of Canada will be the August Canada collaboration I hope You'll read the comments in the nomination and as a nominator prepare to co-ordinate the effort. feydey 21:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You quitting Wikipedia..

I personally won't beg you to stay, only ask you to stay. You are not contributing by just saying "Well..ok fine, I'm gone". If something doesn't please you, well, help contributing to Wikipedia by finding solutions. --Deenoe 17:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, I've noticed that the quit message has been in place for a week, but you're still editing. You may wish to remove the quit message or edit it to provide a cutoff date to reflect your change in status. Happy editing! Captainktainer * Talk 19:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gandi.net

Although it seems that you have alreadly retired from Wikipedia, I post this message because you were the person virtually removed the article Gandi. If you want to delete the article, try Wikipedia:AFD instead. --16[Sechzehn] 16:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Meh

The wikibreak was actually due to the fact that I was out of broadband range on this weird thing called a vacation. The entire media stink (and man was it elevated way higher than it needed to be) came later. I know, I'm the most unjust crazy rogue admin out there for doing a username block... oh well, all in a day :) - Thanks for the reminder to take down the wikibreak sign, I had totally forgotten about it :) -- Tawker 00:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IMPORTANT

Queens University has been nominated for collaboration of the week and artcle improvement drive please help out!! --Speedystickd 19:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I Quit

I've noticed you have posted a dozen or so edits since you quit. Perhaps you should unquit.JEdward 02:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

None of Ardenn's edits have been since the 14th of August, and then only very, very minor. Many users will perform a few edits to finish up a few things once and for all before leaving the project. For all intents and purposes, Ardenn has left the project. Captainktainer * Talk 05:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to User talk:209.17.148.143

Hello Ardenn, thank you for the invitation you gave me about creating an account. However, I already have an account and forgot to sign in at that time. Thank you, anyways! Sir Studieselot 16:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder what happened

Hello Ardenn. I find your name from reading about it on Wikitruth's article on Wikipedia's article about them. I really like your orange disclaimer so I'm going to use it for my talk page if that's okay, but I'll take it down if you tell me to. I'm sorry to hear about your dropping out of Wikipedia, it's really something I wish the whole world would get in on doing. I understand it must suck getting harassed for your decisions. I still need to read more about the occurances to figure out just exactly what they were and whether or not they're right, but still, you look okay enough. Tyciol 19:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To satisfy your curiosity: Based on my review of his contribution history and my own memories of following the dispute, Ardenn left Wikipedia after being blocked numerous times for violations of the 3RR rule, which was in keeping with a generally mutually hostile relationship with the Wikipedia community at large. There was also a long and tendentious dispute between Ardenn and WCityMike, which was one of many factors that led to that contributor's choice to leave the project. Ardenn's relationship with the community was a stormy one, and it appears that he has wrapped up the dangling threads of his participation and permanently left the project (or reregistered as a new user). As for the disclaimer, remember that automatically deleting posts from anonymous users is an egregious violation of Wikipedia's policy of assuming good faith, which includes anonymous contributors; I caution you in the strongest of terms to avoid implementing that particular clause of the notice. Anyway, I think it would be best if we all just let Ardenn slip away quietly; while I don't think the Right to Vanish applies due to the extensive block log, it would be nice to adhere to the spirit of the policy. Captainktainer * Talk 02:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]