Talk:2014 in Moldova

Proposed merge of 2014 in Transnistria into 2014 in Moldova

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The result of this discussion was No merge. Johnson524 (Talk!) 06:00, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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There are exactly three events on this list, which does not seem to justify a list with encyclopedic merit. Sources generally describe Transnistria as a de jure part of Moldova that has autonomous status, so it makes sense to merge these three events into the list for Moldova rather than to break out a Year in Region list that has one month and only three events; a WP:SPINOFF of this small size seems to be ill-advised. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 22:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Oops, sorry for deleting the message! I looked on the 2014 in Transnistria talk page for any kind of discussion and didn't see any, so I assumed that the merge message it was no longer being discussed without realizing it was on this page 😅 I would like to argue for the keeping of 2014 in Transnistria as an independent article, and the list of years in Transnistria article series as a whole. While there are not many 'year in' articles for Transnistria, I promise they are on their way. It is my goal for the month of July on Wikipedia is to revitalize the year in Transnistria article series. So far, I have created Template:Years in Transnistria, List of years in Transnistria, and 2021 in Transnistria. I have also added to and formatted the existing articles 2014 in Transnistria and 2022 in Transnistria to match other 'year in' articles (ex. adding more events, incumbents section, see also section, and adding additional needed categories). Next on the list to make is 2020 and 2019 in Transnistria at least. The reason I am adamant about keeping these articles is because Transnistrian history often does not belong on the Moldovan page. Elections taking place in Transnistria and/or controversies surrounding laws passed in Transnistria only really have a home on specifically a year in Transnistria article. Seeing also how there were already two articles created, with the 2022 article being updated and kept up with, I felt I could help make the series something.

To summarize, the 'year in' article series for Transnistria was more of a stub than anything, but there were active editors on the 2022 page. To save these articles from merging or deletion, I am creating the remaining articles needed to make this a proper article series. If it is just specifically 2014 in Transnistria you want to merge, than I can add more events if that is what is needed when I can find them, but I feel if one if these articles is merged, than the remaining also may come under debate, and I don't want that to happen for the reasons above. I hope this makes sense, and if you need me to clarify on anything I will be happy to reply. Cheers! Johnson524 (talk) 03:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

@Mhawk10: Ok so update, I'm wildly disheartened right now after both of my nearly completed drafts for 2019 and 2020 in Transnistria were both completely erased in an automatic computer update I couldn't prevent from happening. I honestly don't really know where to begin again after all the tabs I was using for resources and news articles were not "closed" so they aren't even in my history where I can access them again. I hope at least revitalizing the 2014, 2021, and 2022 year articles were enough to keep the series from being merged for now. Man that's so annoying that happened, sorry these articles will not be out sooner. Johnson524 (talk) 04:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Not an issue! At this point, there's clearly no consensus among the two of us for a merge. Feel free to use the Draft namespace to save work-in-progress; this way, your edits will be safe from issues with your computer. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 05:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

@Mhawk10: Wow, how did I not know that existed until now, thanks! I'm sorry that no real consensus came from the discussion in general, but I do want you to know the articles existing for this series will be taken care of and well maintained. Hopefully I will get back to continuing the series on some date, but for the next two weeks I will be away so probably not then. Thanks again! Johnson524 (talk) 00:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Support merge, as the entire content of 2014 in Transnistria is relevant to, or already present at 2014 in Moldova. Furthermore, 2014 is the only such year page (see List of years in Transnistria). Hence, merge for the reasons of short text, context, partial duplication and overlap. Klbrain (talk) 10:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello Klbrain, I hope you're doing well. I am busy at the moment, but I will address your concerns as soon as I can. In the meantime, please don't merge the page. Thanks 🙂 Johnson524 (Talk!) 05:06, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Klbrain, @Mhawk10: Ok, after a lot of work I think I have addressed all of your concerns, but tell me if I have missed something. There are now three comprehensive Year in Transnistria articles that have no overlapping information with their corresponding Year in Moldova articles unless the event directly affects both places (i.e. A town in Moldova openly holding a protest to join Transnistria). This means that there is no longer any short text, partial duplication, or overlap on any of the pages! Can this merger be closed now, or is there something I missed? Johnson524 (Talk!) 06:39, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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