Talk:Albion-class landing platform dock

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Albion-class landing platform dock was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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during those eighteen months the first amphibious assault carried out by British forces in over 20 years was mounted

It would be a good idea to say where that assault was!

I think it was the Al-Faw Peninsula in Iraq, oh and you need to sign your posts--Doctormonkey 16:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

specs source copyvio[edit]

The specs is a straight pull from the RN website - [1] - but it ought to be changed to convert military talk into encylopedia English anyway. GraemeLeggett 12:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

copy edit notes[edit]

According to the Royal Navy website, "HMS Albion, along with her sister ship HMS Bulwark, is one of the Navy’s two amphibious assault ships with a single aim: to deliver the punch of the Royal Marines ashore by air and by sea". That seems like something that might be worked into this article as well. Feel free to put back any copyedit changes that you don't feel are warranted, I won't be offended! If that doesn't make you happy, please send all flames directly to my talk page. --^Despay_re (^tal_k) 07:33, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did not know until reading a little more on the navy website, that "extended readiness" meant docked, but not quite mothballed. At least, that's how I read it at [2]. That might be explained a little more too. --^Despay_re (^tal_k) 07:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Albion class landing platform dock/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Nick-D (talk · contribs) 01:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

The lead should note that only one ship in the class is now active
"their flight decks were used to support airborne operations by helicopters and Sea Harrier jets" - the flight decks did more than 'support' operations; they were used as a base for operations. I suggest using a more active word here.
Can anything be said about how the ships fit into the British amphibious force? I presume that their role is to land the initial waves' heavy equipment during amphibious operations, while most troops are landed by Ocean?
What's the non-overload troop complement of the ships?
The lead says that the ships can carry "Thirty-one large trucks and thirty-six smaller vehicles and main battle tanks" while the body of the article states that they can carry "thirty-one large trucks and thirty-six smaller vehicles[3] or six Challenger 2 tanks and thirty armoured personnel carriers." These two figures seem inconsistent.
The information about the ships' crew and troop complement would be best placed in the para about what they can carry rather than that about their engines
The 'Extended readiness' section should probably note the critical response to this measure, and what it means for the British ampibious force (eg, for instance, that there will be considerable periods each year when no LPDs are available as the single active ship is undergoing maintenance and/or crew leave)
Reference 9 (to '"Securing Britain in an Age of Uncertainty"') needs a page number. These running costs seem rather low - do they exclude crew costs?
The quote marks around "extended readiness" in the 'HMS Albion' section are unnecessary
I suggest establishing a category at commons for the ships and adding a link to it here.
Are you sure that http://www.naval-technology.com/ is a reliable source? In my experiance it's mainly based on press releases from the manufacturers of weapons. I'd suggest consulting a copy of Jane's Fighting Ships or equivalent instead.
Can anything be said about the ships' command and control facilities? These appear to be an important feature of the design.

Assessment against GA criteria[edit]

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Nomination withdrawn Nick-D (talk) 09:43, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment[edit]

Sorry Nick real life getting in the way I just don't have the time to follow this up. I was going to delete the nomination but forgot, Thanks for taking the time to review it. Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:32, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Jim. Should I fail the review, or leave it open for a while? Nick-D (talk) 09:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Its probably best to fail, I hate to say. Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, will do. Let me know if you'd like to reactivate the review though. Nick-D (talk) 09:40, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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