Talk:Andrew Lawrence (comedian)

This page was proposed for deletion by TheRedPenOfDoom (talk · contribs) on 12 March 2012 with the comment:
that "local boy is performing", fails WP:N significant coverage in third party sources

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Untitled[edit]

He was also in the one off comedy show http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007znpj. Would that be worth a mention? Daggsy (talk) 21:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Andrew Lawrence (comedian)[edit]

Whilst the article may still lack references and thus appear to fail WP:N, the subject appears to qualify under WP:ENT so I vote keep. KenBailey (talk) 08:39, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date[edit]

I wonder if someone could enter his birth date. It does not seem to be included in the article. Technut (talk) 18:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you or someone could find a reference for it then that would help. --KenBailey (talk) 16:00, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Defence of UKIP" as section title[edit]

I don't see how what he said regarding Mock the week is a defence of UKIP. More that it is a criticism of comedians for thinking they are clever for insulting UKIP. Nothing he's said that I have seen, or is referenced, suggests that he supports UKIP in any way. How about "UKIP controversy" or similar as a title? --Davini994 (talk) 12:13, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where he stands on UKIP specifically, but he has always portrayed himself as pretty right wing. Whether he is, or if he just acts that way to stand out amongst other comedians, is unclear. It's also clear from his past pronouncements that he has a problem with women who think they can be comedians. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure it's even noteworthy, but it seems to be about Mock The Week, not about UKIP at all really. Mezigue (talk) 22:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Presence of "political views" section[edit]

Somebody just before my edits deleted any mention of that controversial Facebook post. Given that this person made nine edits in quick succession, and those edits are their only edits ever, and that one of those edits was literally "he's got a DVD out", I have to presume that this person is somehow connected to the subject. But anyway. In my opinion, the FB post and the ensuing drama definitely passes notability requirements given the storm it sparked in comedy circles - it was reported in a variety of national newspapers, and the first time I'd ever heard of the bloke was in reference to it. I know that normally political views would be excessive/unnecessary detail on an article like this - e.g. I think the mention of 'right-wing' that used to be in the intro was totally superfluous - but this case is an exception. Do people agree? Massivefranklin (talk) 00:11, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If this section is to be deleted, then I will be AfDing the whole article as this is just about the only reason that anyone heard of him nationally. It is also very well sourced. If there are many tweaks needed to it, then we should either correct it or improve it as needed, but there seems to be no reason at all to remove it. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:41, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What utter tosh Andy. He was already known nationally prior to any of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.120.107 (talk) 15:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Racism.[edit]

You should probably include a section about how his series of racist tweets has led to many venues cancelling his tour dates. It's not good enough just to lock the article.

https://twitter.com/HangerFarmArts/status/1414564078614421508

https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/status/1414544244832972807

https://twitter.com/scallywagcomedy/status/1414557612792745988 https://twitter.com/worcester_live/status/1414557319644471296 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23CC:2100:6B01:C88:79E1:5FCE:67DD (talk • contribs)

Tweets are usually unacceptable as sources on Wikipedia, and no particularly known news sites have picked up on the story yet. The guidelines surrounding biographies of living persons mean that anything in a BLP article, especially controversies such as these, must be well-sourced. I’m in no doubt that what Lawrence has said is racist, but Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia - not a tabloid. חביתוש ~ Havitush (talk) 14:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I do understand the BLP policy, but at the same time, I find it bizarre that these things only become acceptable to cover once a newspaper has collated the 5-6 tweets into an article. Nevertheless the revisions to the article as they stand at time of writing make and sufficiently contextualise the point.

Comedy news, at least, is covering it now: https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2021/07/12/48803/andrew_lawrence_is_cancelled_over_racist_tweets

It's been covered by numerous outlets now, including Indy100. Can I suggest that in the future "Havitush" is less quick to destructively delete what is being written about a fast moving story, and instead tries to constructively edit and contribute.

You can suggest whatever you like, which does not negate the fact that Havitush's point was entirely correct. Now, however, that acceptable media sources exist, mention can rightly be made of the issue.

I was reacting to the fact that Havitush arbitrarily deleted a section that was in the process of being written about the racism issue. That was unecessary. The sources were being added and changed as the story unfolded.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2021[edit]

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Change “subtweet” to “quoted tweet” Pgo1980 (talk) 14:30, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Morneo06 (talk) 15:39, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

COI editing[edit]

Andrew Lawrence has been editing this page with an unregistered account. 2A00:23C8:8E87:6E00:D856:D25C:DE76:11F5 (talk) 21:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]