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Some Sites[edit]

Hi. There are some alternatives that would help if you need to convert some text file to audio. I know the site ServiciosPDF --- PDF - Text - Audio that help you to do it.

German version[edit]

The german version of this substub is a full article! Can someone translate the german into the english Wiki? Eric Herboso 02:12, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi Eric! This is Marietta from Germany - I think it's a lot of German-specific stuff in it - so i'm afraid that many information may not help much for an Englisch audiobook-article. And my English is not as good to translate. But I am also very interested to learn more about Audiobook-history in USA or GB or wherever you are. Greetings, deutsch Benutzer:Marietta --85.73.35.254 16:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

History[edit]

I was surprised to see no mention of spoken-word vinyl, which occasionally presented true audiobooks and certainly major progenitors (Shakespeare performances, etc.). Some history in general--the old, bland-looking reads found in libraries of the '70s before books on tape hit big commercially in the 80s. I don't have the knowledge to write on the subject myself however, just anecdotal wanderings of a kid in those days. --24.33.28.52 02:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Books on records were released going back into at least the 1950's. That 1975 reference must be wrong.

Nettyboo 13:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Check out the article Spoken word album on Wikipedia. AlbertSM (talk) 03:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed move to "Audiobook"[edit]

As of September 2006, "audiobook" returns 15 million Google hits, whereas "audio book" returns only 6 million. I therefore propose that this page be moved to Audiobook. --Amit 20:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I have only seen this spelled as "audiobook" - is this a neologism and another case of making new words by merging two others? MDCollins (talk) 13:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I currently make it 10.8m for audiobook vs. only 1.4m for audio book. I'll request a move on WP:RM. –EdC 22:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Done, see below. –EdC 22:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Since the move has been proposed and approved I would suggest deleting the parethesical ("or audio book") since, as shown, "audiobook" (as a single word) is more popular than "audio book" (two separate words). I also believe that the sentence which states DVDs are an audiobook format should be removed, because, as I explained earler, I only saw MP3CD audiobooks, NOT DVD audiobooks. --Marceki111 (talk) 18:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

AudiobookStand.com[edit]

AudiobookStand.com should be added to this search (Audio Books), Audiobooks as well under "online audio book services" and "External Links".

AudiobookStand is the direct to consumer division of Brilliance Audio, the nation's largest independent Audiobook Publisher. We sell Cassettes, Compact Discs, MP3-CD's and Downloads. Our homepage can be found at www.audiobookstand.com our download site is www.audiobookstanddl.com

205.217.72.98 18:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Please read WP:EL -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


Vendor list[edit]

I'm removed the spam magnet vendor list section from the article. There seems to be no criteria for inclusion, and most of the links were red. There are several categories which seem to duplicate the function of such a list: Audio books, Digital libraries, or Book websites. The external links list would seem to have several commercial/promotional links as well. Kuru talk 16:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, since there's already a DMOZ category and since every other link just seemed to be an audio book provider, I've trimmed the list down to that. Please see WP:EL. Kuru talk 16:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Audio Book Mega Shop[edit]

I believe the Audio Book Mega Shop(www.audiobook-megashop.com) should be linked in the audio book sections of this site.Audio Book Mega Shop has a huge variety of top quality audio books for the whole family. some of the categories covered are Arts & Drama,Foreign Language study,Health & Recreation,religion & spiritual,Business,biography's,history,self help,fiction and many more subjects in fact over 5000 titles are being regularly added to. Great source for education and relaxation it is a growing trend and todays authors are not only releasing there new titles in book form but also in the audio book versions as well.

(Ozedude 23:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)).

I respectfully disagree. The article is intended to describe the concept of an audio book and related topics, not to act as a directory of commercial links. The link you've proposed seems only to advertise and promote a specific entity, and does nothing to improve or add to the article. I would suggest adding your link to the DMOZ directory already linked in the article, or could you read wikipedia's external link guidelines at WP:EL and perhaps restate your proposal with that in mind? Thanks! Kuru talk 00:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Newer Sales Stats Reflected[edit]

Using the APA's research http://www.audiopub.org/i4a/pages/Index.cfm?pageid=3308 I modified some of the outdated info regarding the sales percentages of the different formats.

(freeb26 17:24, 8 Feb 2007 (EDT)).

Clean up of commercialism and advertising[edit]

I have cleaned up some of the more obvious "advertising" in this article. (Nigel Farringdon) 10:10, 3 Nov 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.83.202 (talk)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 06:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


Audio bookAudiobook — Significantly wider usage per WP:GOOGLE (currently, 10.8m vs. 1.4m). EdC 22:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Add  # '''Support'''  or  # '''Oppose'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

Survey - in support of the move[edit]

  1. Support - per nom. –EdC 22:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
  2. Support - per nom and also because I see it in bookstores as Audiobooks, but this really is a website/web site type thing. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 06:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey - in opposition to the move[edit]

Discussion[edit]

Add any additional comments:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Just wanted to state that I also support the move from "audio book" to "audiobook", though I got here too late to participate in the above vote. —Lowellian (reply) 18:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

17 discs for an 18-wheeler[edit]

The Harry Potter 7 will be published on 17 (seventeen!) audio CD discs. Me thinks MP3 format was invented over 12 years ago and even vacuum cleaners can play it back nowadays. Is it still common to issue audiobooks in such obsolete, cumbersome format? I mean you can bet 100:1 that one or more of those 17 CDs will get lost in a few years time, no matter how careful the owner is and render the set unusable. Especially that so many audiobook users are long-haul truck drivers wishing to pass time on endless aussie roads, who move a lot around and thus can lose things easily. 82.131.210.162 13:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

The Order of the Phoenix is 21 CDs at 29 Hours (UK Version). I have the 4 most recent Potter books on CD, and I have yet to lose a single CD, even after countless roadtrips, and listening to them all countless times. Also, if you are worried about losing them, invest in a digital audio player (e.g. iPod). Then, when at home, you can rip the CDs, and put them on your iPod. Another practice, is to download the Audiobooks via an internet music service (e.g. iTunes). That way, there is no hard copy to lose. Donnyj (talk) 00:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Donnyj

Spoken book and talking book[edit]

Could a reference to the these terms be added? They appear in Google, and even the Library of Congress referes to Talking books. Magdalena B. 20:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Definition[edit]

If an audiobook is the recording of the contents of a book read aloud, then the pre existence of a book in paper is neccesary. Is that ok? If it is, an audiobook can't be the recordings of oral literature. What do you think?? Magdalena B. 15:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC) I agree with that Marceki111 (talk) 12:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Opening[edit]

Is the opening section appropriate? In 1933, anthropologist J.P. Harrington, drove the length of North America to record oral histories of Native American tribes on aluminum discs using a car battery-powered turntable. Audiobooks preserve the oral tradition of storytelling that J.P. Harrington pursued many years ago.[1]

That is similar to audiobooks. What do you think?

JBFrenchhorn (talk) 08:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think it's appropiate, as is not the section citing DVDs as a format for audiobooks, 'cause I have not seen a DVD audiobook, rather MP3CD audiobooks. Marceki111 (talk) 12:12, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Why would anyone like to delete this article?[edit]

  • Audiobooks are important for bilnd people who do not read Braille, and for many of those who do.
  • Audiobooks are important for dyslexic people who cannot read long books easily.
  • Audiobooks are important for children who do not yet read.
  • (Audiobooks are nice for people who like to hear stories while driving.)
  • Audiobooks are sold all around the globe for many decades.
  • Audiobooks are given by libraries for the bind and dyslexic all around the globe for many decades.
  • (Wikipedia projects in 30 other languages find this article important)

Why would anyone like to delete this article? Eddau (talk) 13:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I deleted the "audio book" (two separate words) reference and replaced "DVDs" with "MP3CDs" --Marceki111 (talk) 08:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
I was the one to suggest the deletion due to copyright on the cassette tape image from THE MAURITIUS COMMAND by Patrick O'Brian and read by Patrick Tull, that image is owned by Recorded Books, LLC., and, in turn, that company is now owned by Simply Audioboks, Inc. at www.simplyaudiobooks.com, the user who wrote this article did NOT have the necessary permissions to use the cassette tape image.
I want to note, as well, that, after merging with Simply Audiobooks, Recorded Books discontinued both Direct to Consumer and International sales, the former being done by the new company, Simply Audiobooks, and the latter... well, God knows when Simply Audiobooks will sell worldwide.--Marceki111 (talk) 08:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
As I explained 12 days ago, I am nominating this article for deletion because the editor who wrote it did not have permission from Simply Audiobooks, now owner of Recorded Books, LLC, to use the cassette recording image of THE MAURITIUS COMMAND. Using text or even images without citing the source is considered copyright violation, in this case this editor is violating both Simply Audiobooks and Recorded Books, LLC copyright. --Marceki111 (talk) 19:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I would ask that the editor who wrote this article read Wikipedia's policy on using third-party images without permission. --Marceki111 (talk) 19:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I've removed your AfD tag from the article, are you claiming the entire article is a copyright violation, or just the image? If its just the image, you may request deletion of it at Commons:, where the image is hosted. I'm not sure if the producer can assert copyright over an image of a caset labeled with basic text, but if thats the only concern, the place to raise it is in a commons deletion discussion. If there is copyrighted text in the article, please point it out so it can be dealt with. Monty845 00:10, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
As I said before, I was claiming the IMAGE is in copyright violation (read my explanation on one of my posts which starts with "As I explained..."); Furthermore, I would like to ask how do I go about suggesting the guys at Commons: delete the image? I have never been there before, that's why I'm asking. --Marceki111 (talk) 09:57, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
I would like to nominate this article for deletion on the grounds it lacks any sources for verification (see the numerous "citation needed" tags?) Marceki111 (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

"Congress" as used in a paragraph[edit]

I want to challenge the following paragraph which may mislead readers:"In 1931, Congress established the Talking Book program[citation needed], which was intended to help blind adults who couldn’t read print. This program was called "Books for the Adult Blind Project." The American Foundation for the Blind developed the first Talking Books in 1932. One year later the first reproduction machine began the process of mass publishing. In 1933 anthropologist J.P. Harrington drove the length of North America to record oral histories of Native American tribes on aluminum discs using a car battery-powered turntable. Audiobooks preserve the oral tradition of storytelling that J.P. Harrington pursued many years ago.[2] By 1935, after Congress approved free mailings of audio books to blind citizens, Books for the Adult Blind Project was in full operation. In 1992 the National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Challenged (NLS) network circulated millions of recorded books to more than 700,000 Physically challenged listeners. All NLS recordings were created by professionals.[citation needed]". Since many countries, including Argentina, my homeland, have Congresses, it is important to know which Congress you are talking about. I know that I took the sentence from the "United States" section, but for other countries which have their own Congresses this may not be so obvious, so you have to include wording like "the Congress of the United States" (and I prefer to use "the Congress of the United States" as opposed to "American" because the latter would mean "all the Congresses in the American continent" and you do not want to mean that, do you? And another reason is to keep in line with the Pledge of Allegiance which alludes "to the flag of the United States of America") --Fandelasketchup (talk) 15:13, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Audiobook charities in the UK[edit]

Two charities are currently listed (Listening Books and RNIB's Talking Books). There is a least one other notable charity of which I've been a lifetime member http://www.calibre.org.uk I have however not yet been able to find a listing on the web that include all three of them. Please could Calibre Audio Library either be added or the section reworked to avoid favouring these two and perhaps including organisations in other countries? Jbuller (talk) 23:10, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:EL --Fandelasketchup (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

J.P. Harrington/Books for the Adult Blind Project[edit]

Under the heading "United States" there is a paragraph dealing with the Books for the Adult Blind Project, followed by a paragraph talking about J.P. Harrington. The J.P. Harrington paragraph includes more about the Books for the Adult Blind Project, and some of that information seems to be repeated (in a paraphrased form) from the previous paragraph. I can't see any link between J.P. Harrington and the Books for the Adult Blind Project, and I think the J.P. Harrington bit should be a completely separate paragraph.68.97.202.187 (talk) 14:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Distribution and Popularity[edit]

Taken from the last paragraph of the Distribution and Popularity section:

However, there are certain economies of scale that favor downloadable audiobooks. Downloadable audiobooks do not carry mass production costs, do not require storage of a large inventory, do not require physical packaging or transportation and even if "returned" do not require a cost of physical return or destruction/disposal. If such economies were passed on to customers, unit profit margins would be reduced but sales volumes would increase. It is not known what effect this would have on book sales in other formats.

I'm not conversant with Wikipedia's policy on original research or opinions of editors being added to pages, but that paragraph seems to be treading close to original research or personal opinion.68.97.202.187 (talk) 14:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

I am a member of the audiobook industry, and I agree that the paragraph is opinion and possibly misleading, especially the statement "If such economies were passed on to customers, unit profit margins would be reduced but sales volumes would increase." That section should be removed. HappyListener (talk) 19:59, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

It looks like it was already taken out? (if not I would have removed it as unsourced). For future reference, being a member of an industry does not present any significant conflict of interest concerns, unless you worked for a trade association whos mission was to advocate for the industry (or something similar). CorporateM (Talk) 02:55, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like that entire section has now been removed. And thanks for clarifying about the COI policy. HappyListener (talk) 16:02, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Michael Rye first audiobook[edit]

Regarding this claim:

The first recording of a "book" was of The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin by Michael Rye in 1969.[1] It included excerpts from the autobiography, Poor Richard's Almanack, The Dogood Papers, and other shorter works.[2]
  1. ^ "Voiceover actor Michael Rye dies at 94, Bridged the generations from radio to videogame work". Variety Magazine. 2012-09-25. Retrieved 2012-10-20. 
  2. ^ Christopher J. Murrey (1 January 2002). Benjamin Franklin: Biographical Overview and Bibliography. Nova Publishers. p. 84. ISBN 978-1-59033-384-6. 

This is a huge claim that is very loosely sourced. The 1969 date is original research, the actual date is likely much earlier (1956 is the earliest edition of Autobiography of Franklin I can find). But 1956 still doesn't make sense as the Library of Congress had been recording books for the blind since the early 1930s. For example I am in possession of an audiobook edition of The Great Gatsby narrated by Alexander Scourby from 1953 (which happens to be better than modern ones IMO). If Rye has any claim to narrating the first audiobook, it would have to be from the 1930s, probably the early part of the decade as part of the Talking Books (Books for the Blind) program, and I can't find evidence of that. -- GreenC 01:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

And I think the 1 January 2002 date on the Google Books page cited above GreenC's comment is also original research. Please take a moment to read over Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. --Marce 19:35, 16 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fandelasketchup (talkcontribs)