Talk:BMW 3 Series (E46)
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M3 CSL: The 0-100 time on this car can't be right... someone please find out what the real 0-100 time is for this car since I doubt that it is no faster than a normal euro M3. Although, I do see how it could be possible that the SMG-only CSL is equal in acceleration to a properly drive 6-speed Euro M3. Someone please move from speculation to fact though.
M3 GTR: There is 0 info on this car even though it is probably the most exciting model produced. We need info on the separate Street and Race versions of the car and their exact production dates. Also, what is the engine code that they used and did they have the same power ratings every year because I have found tons of varying information on the internet. Also, I have seen many sites say that the GTR does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds but is this the race or street version? Aaronmarks (talk) 08:19, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- In regards to the GTR, you should take a look at the main BMW M3 page which goes into some detail regarding this vehicle. We need to avoid duplicating content which I think may already be occurring. --Leivick (talk) 08:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I took your advice and linked back to the main M3 article's respective sections for all of the special M3 special models and I moved the pictures to the top of the "special models" section so that the layout looks better with the decrease in the length of each section. Aaronmarks (talk) 19:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
General Article Cleanup 2008-08-26
I changed the 0-100 km/h times on some of the cars which appeared to be using the US 0-60 mph times. For the US versions of the cars, I figured their 0-100 km/h times by multiplying their average tested 0-60 times by 1.035. I also separated out the M3 (US) from the M3 (EUR) since they have slightly different performance specs.
- You should use the actual times, not calculated --— Typ932T | C 19:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- What do you mean by actual times? Taking the average tested times from the major magazines which only vary by a tenth of a second and then figuring out the unit conversion to km from miles and calculating for the delay can be calculated exactly to the tenth of a second.
Their were some mistakes and confusing words in the ZHP specs lists so I did my best to correct these. I also separated out the ZHP section into Performance, Suspension, and Aesthetics so that it would be easier to read. I added a picture as well since their was previously no picture.
I also separated the 330 Clubsport (EUR) from the ZHP (US) since they are really different cars. Someone should create a separate list of everything the Clubsport package includes in its new section.
I also created the M3 CSL section and added pictures of it and the M3 ZCP (US). The M3 CSL text is a direct quote from the M3 article. Someone please correct it if it isn't okay to copy and paste text between Wikipedia articles. Aaronmarks (talk) 07:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Just did some updates and minor corrections to the article. 12 April 2007 (GMT)
I have removed some content about the ZHP package and links that were promoting personal websites , leaving the most important details, to make the article more encylopedic. Fuscob 01:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
General info and ZHP updates
I added general information at the top about the 10best with links to those respected wiki pages. I also added specific package details back to the ZHP section as I felt it was necessary to emphasize the specific order code since it is the most significant of packages, and similarly hard to identify for a non-enthusiast. - ncw
This is not a BMW discussion forum, it is only for discussion of this Wikipedia article about the BMW E46 3-series. You might want to try a BMW community such as Bimmerforums. Also, please sign all comments with four tildes so that other Wikipedians may know who left them. Thank you, Fuscob 01:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm currently trying to get this article to either GA or FA status and am asking for help for anyone interested, possibly in the more tedious tasks of describing each models engines and rewording the changes between model years of the platforms (it's available in the history at the moment). It'd be helpful if everything was fully cited but if not i'd be more than happy to go through and tweak and cite (FYI I never realised but citing every sentence is about the most time consuming part of writing a good article). I doubt this page is watched by many people but if anyone has some free time, every little change helps. Thanks, Matty (talk) 10:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try to pitch in and help if I can get some time Aaronmarks (talk) 07:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- The model nomenclature section needs to be started, finshed, and cited.
- The models section needs to be finished, the 320d has lots of possible cites (its just a matter of writing the section) but i'm having trouble finding much on the 330d
- The North American option sections need to be cited (and written), i can't find anything that meets WP:RS that mentions anything outside of the ZHP/ZCP. The Canadian luxury package has absolutely no mentioning outside of forums either which is a problem.
- The SULEV section needs more than one citation so it can be expanded further
- The gallery section needs to be removed
- The article needs to consistently use British English
- The design section needs to be expanded.
- The engine tables need to be put into each individual model designation
- There needs to be a cited section on the current subframe lawsuit and the swirl flap problems on the turbodiesels and the 320d's turbo failures.
- The TOC is too big but i'm struggling to see a way to reduce that unless we remove a bunch of subheadings.
- The regular M3 needs info on it. I'm thinking that the actual chassis article (the E46) should be the main article for the E46 M3 and the M3 article just be a sort of guidance article (like the BMW 3 series article as opposed to the E46 article).
The real problem with writing these sections is that there are no reliable sources to back anything up. It was by a stroke of luck that I even remembered that DesignWorksUSA helped build the E46. There really isn't much available to use and it's making it a pain to write. Writing first citing second isn't ideal but it might have to be done that way. The only section I feel at the moment is really finished is the CSL section. Thanks guys. Matty (talk) 09:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC)