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tried as a traitor... to WHAT?

the text includes the statement that conradin was "tried as a traitor." now, i understand that it's the pope's job to make things wholecloth, all the more so back when the job meant something, but surely there was SOME level of specificity in the original charge. so, who was this sovereign monarch commiting treason against? pauli133 (talk) 23:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From what little I can discover, it seems to have been treason against the Church. Sicily was, in theory, a fief of the Pope, who through his suzerain power might disinherit Conradin, making him no king but a rebel in that Kingdom, etc. As you say, pretty thin gruel, and tradition has it that all but one of the jurists assembled by Charles acquitted Conradin. But that provided just enough cover to gloss his judicial murder. Choess (talk) 02:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conradin wasn't tried by the pope but by Charles of Anjou, King of Sicily, though it is quite dubious that there actually was a trial. It was supposed to be treason to the "rightful King of Sicily". Str1977 ^(talk) 15:16, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]