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Eczema not equal to dermatitis[edit]

Eczema and dermatitis are NOT synonymous! Dermatitis is a generic term for any inflammation of the skin. (That is the definition of the word!) Eczema is a somewhat more specific term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.0.46 (talk) 13:15, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

How is eczema pronounced? -- 195.242.190.233 (talk) 09:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

It always seems to be /'eksma/. If there's no disgreement, that could be included here. 219.78.212.29 (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Capsaicin[edit]

I think that mechanism as a counterirritant is subject to discussion and controversy. Capsaicin is supposed to cause release of substance P from nerve terminals, and over a longer period of time is supposed to deplete substance P from nerve terminals. Pollira (talk) 03:51, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Dermatitis / eczema[edit]

The ICD10 uses the terms interchangeably. Thus so should we and I have merged.[1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

  • Jmh649 Should this article be renamed to eczema? I saw that you changed atopic dermatitis to atopic eczema. It looks like "dermitis" is the word used in other languages on Wikidata. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
They are used interchangeably. No strong feeling which term it should be at. Happy to hear arguments. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
If we are following that ICD section, then dermatitis is used more frequently, including all the subheadings, although eczema is still used a bit. My personal preference would be dermatitis since the derivation of the word is closer to many other medical terms... Lesion (talk) 18:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

From the "for what it's worth" department, here is the rate of use for related search words on Google. I'd play to the masses and use eczema.
Avg. monthly searches

  • shingles 550,000
  • eczema 301,000
  • ringworm 301,000
  • impetigo 165,000
  • dermatologist 135,000
  • hives 135,000
  • rosacea 110,000
  • dermatitis 90,500

Ian Furst (talk) 02:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Side note Doc James, has the warning been lifted on Protopic? It worked great on erosive LP and BMMP but we stopped when the warning came out. Ian Furst (talk) 02:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Not entirely sure were it is at. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 09:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
  • We should not use the number of google hits to determine the naming of medical articles. Per the MEDMOS it is the most common name being used in recent, reliable secondary and tertiary sources. Lesion (talk) 10:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
In this case both, could qualify as the "scientific or recognised medical name that is most commonly used in recent, high-quality, English-language medical sources" and both are recognized by the WHO. Is there a rule against taking the search frequency into consideration? It seems like a good idea in this case. Ian Furst (talk) 11:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Imo, a pubmed search of review papers from the last 5 years would more closely highlight what we should do than a google search... Lesion (talk) 11:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
It was: dermatitis -1592, eczema -347. Many conditions have "dermatitis" in their title, so this is probably a pretty crude measure. Might be easier to just say "follow a major source like ICD or MeSH". Lesion (talk) 11:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Okay will support dermatitis Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:55, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Wrong edit about Greek meaning[edit]

User Omnipaedista wrote that Greek -ῖτις means "disease." This is certainly not true. The Greek word for disease is νόσος. The suffix -ῖτις in itself does not mean disease.--HD86 (talk) 09:24, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay so what do you propose to fix it for us non greek speakers? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 10:05, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Just revert it to the way it was before.--HD86 (talk) 10:08, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Please do. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 10:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Eczema not equal to dermatitis[edit]

The previous editor was correct on this point. Eczema refers to skin inflammation of immune origin caused by substances originating within the body (e.g. some fungi). Whereas Dermatitis refers both to a similar condition caused by reactions to exogenous substances (such as perfumes). The two while indeed very similar often occur in different locations and under different circumstances. I have witnessed two Consultant skin specialists discussing which disease applied to a patient hence expert opinion clearly disagrees with this article.

Further the ICD-9/10 codes are no indication since they do often group multiple related diseases under a common marker. E.g. there are nine forms of diabetes, yet two ICD classifications. 91.84.75.120 (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

ICD 10 says "In this block the terms dermatitis and eczema are used synonymously and interchangeably." [2]Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:01, 4 June 2014 (UTC)