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- 1 (null header)
- 2 Nuclear waste misinformation
- 3 Why is there netting in the sea if it's a marine sanctuary?
- 4 Spanish Names
- 5 Miscellany
- 6 visible from continent?
- 7 nuclear dumping - citation incorrect
- 8 "A view of the Farallon Islands" is reversed left for right
- 9 Drake at Three Arch Rocks
What is the population of the islands, and who lives there? -- Beland 04:07, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Usually, there are around less than 10 people living there. They are marine biologists, for the most part. Gentgeen 16:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Aren't all of the people there temporary researchers? There are no year'round rangers like Santa Barbara Island, for example, are there? BlankVerse ∅ 18:06, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- They are researchers (which range from 4 in the winter to 8 in the summer/spring) with an NGO (PRBO) that has a contract with Fish and Wildlife. The F&W refuge manager and refuge specialist are based out of Don Edwards San Francisco Bay NWR and visit the islands from time to time. Sabine's Sunbird 5 July 2005 16:47 (UTC)
- I just reverted an edit with regard to inhabitation on the island. SEFI is inhabited all year by scientists. Sabine's Sunbird 15:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I had a math teacher back in the late 1970s-early 1980s who was a member of the California Air National Guard, who described doing practice bombing runs off the Farallons & how sometimes a (dummy) bomb would "skip" across the water and hit land. This is all from memory, though. --Davecampbell 02:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm disappointed I can't see the islands on google earth :^( Funkyj 20:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- You can see the islands, especially the Southeastern F.I. (SEFI), clearly on NASA World Wind. I added the coordinates of SEFI to the article to facilitate quick lookup (of course, NASA World Wind must be installed).--Ratzer 21:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I have added a section about nuclear waste at the Farallons. SugakuKarasu 12:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Nuclear waste misinformation
- "From 1945 to 1970, the sea around the Farallones was used as a nuclear dumping site for radioactive waste, despite nuclear dumping at sea being prohibited."
- Dumping of nuclear waste at sea was not prohibited at all until the 1970s, and even today can technically be done in many situations with the right license from the EPA.
- "An estimated count of 80,000 - 55 gallon barrels full of radioactive debris that carry a shelf life of 3 billion years,"
- I don't know what "shelf life" is supposed to mean here. Is it some sort of reference to the half lives? This needs to be clarified or removed. "Shelf life" has no meaning in this context. --126.96.36.199 22:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I basically re-wrote it. It seems like it was basically copied-and-pasted from another site anyway, and that site had really bad information on it (it was a sloppy compilation of information with a lot of innuendo thrown in). I think the truth of things is shocking enough as it is, written up clinically and without innuendo, so I have done so! --188.8.131.52 22:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Doesn't this information really belong in the Gulf of the Farallones National Marine Sanctuary article? Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is there netting in the sea if it's a marine sanctuary?
- The net either drifted there from outside the sanctuary, or, more likely, the whale was entangled outside the sanctuary and carried the net there itself. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 03:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Commercial and sportfishing are legal in National Marine Sanctuaries - they're more like National Forests than National Parks (sorry for the US-centrism there.) Although given the net was already quite dilapidated when the whale became entangled, it probably did drift in from somewhere. Wevets (talk) 05:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
The Spanish Wikipedia article  provides Spanish (and in a few cases Russian) names for the islands, perhaps even for some rocks that have no English equivalents. Please help matching the names, so we can provide the Spanish names in this article also.
nearly certain matches
- Southeast Farallon Island = Farallón Sureste
- Sea Lion Rock = Piedra del León Marino
- Great Arch Rock = Farallón El Gran Arco
- Middle Farallon Island = Farallón de Enmedio
- North Farallon Island = Farallón del Norte
- Island of St. James = Isla St. James
- Seal Rock = Piedra Bola
- Maintop Island = Farallón Santiago
- The Drunk Uncle Islets = Rocas de la Bahía
- Aulone Island = Isla Rezanov
- Sugarloaf Island = Piedra de Amolar
no matches (no English equivalents found or known)
- ? = Roca Kuskov (S)
- ? = Roca Kostromitinov (S)
- ? = Piedra Guadalupe (N)
- ? = Peñasco Quebrado (N)
- ? = Farallón Vizcaíno (N)
It is stated that the islands are visible from the mainland on clear days. This is not quite true. Under certain, usually hazy, atmospheric conditions, the Farallones loom into view, but on perfectly clear days, they are hidden beyond the horizon line. I am not an authority, except insofar as I grew up in San Francisco, and had not given the matter any thought, until a science teacher enlightened my class. I remember proving the phenomenon to myself on subsequent jaunts around town. Dchiapello (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)dchiapello
- That may be true from sea level, but I recall them being very visible from up the hills above Stinson Beach even on clear clear days. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
They're visible on clear days from the heights on the coast - the Presidio up above Baker Beach, from Fort Funston, and the Golden Gate Bridge itself. At least the peak of Southeast Farallon is visible from sea level on a clear day at Ocean Beach or Rodeo Beach on the other side of the Bridge. Wevets (talk) 05:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
visible from continent?
The article on mirage states that the islands are not visible themselves, but just as a refraction, or mirage, in ideal atmospheric conditions. I think the 1st paragraph is misleading. Parababelico (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- That may be true at Sea-level,, but there are high hills on the coast and the islands, and things behind them, are certainly visible from the road to Stinson Beach. Sabine's Sunbird talk 18:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
nuclear dumping - citation incorrect
I couldn't find any information supporting this sentence in the given reference (epa1980): "The materials dumped were mostly laboratory materials containing traces of contamination, the majority of which had decayed by 1980." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- The cited source says, "Typical low-level wastes disposed of at sea are paper towels, rags, broken glassware, clothing, and other laboratory paraphernalia ..." -- see page 7, under "What kind of material was dumped at these sites?" On page 2 of the same source, the second footnote says, "Mostly 55-gallon steel drums containing trace contamination on paper towels, rags, clothing, glassware and laboratory equipment. On that same page, the third footnote says (referring to the Curies dumped column) that "Much of this would be gone now by normal radioactive decay."
- I will change "the majority of which" to "much", so as to be closer to the source. --Stepheng3 (talk) 00:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
"A view of the Farallon Islands" is reversed left for right
The two houses should be to the left of the white rain cachment basin (as in "View of research station at Marine Terrace", or on Google Earth), not to the right. The original source is also reversed. Dstivers (talk) 23:18, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Drake at Three Arch Rocks
The edits by author Ggitzen of 20 August 2012 places Drake’s 1579 visit to islands at Three Arch Rocks, south of Nehalem Bay, Oregon, rather than the accepted place of the Farallon Islands:
“It was formerly believed that the first European to record the islands was the English privateer Sir Francis Drake, who landed on the islands on 24 July 1579. He named them the Islands of Saint James, a name that now applies to only one of the rocky islets of the North Farallones. However; the Farallons are made up of 4 islands while maps of the time reflect 5 or 6. The Three Arch Rocks National Marine Reserve and neighboring Twin Rocks lying off of Rockaway Beach, Oregon corresponded with Drakes 5 or 6 islands. Meares in 1788 identified the Islands of St. James (as named by Drake) as 4 while Vancouver in 1792 identified them as 3 in number.”
This is a self-published work which does not present the accepted Drake course which includes Drakes Bay and the Farallon Islands. Fort Nehalem Publishing is the author’s press. www.whois.com lists www.fortnehalem.net with Garry Gitzen as Registrant, Administrative Contact and Technical Contact at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Drake’s presence at the Farallon Islands has been formally recognized on two separate occasions by the National Park Service – in 1977 and 2012}}MikeVdP (talk) 02:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)