Talk:Groupe Danone

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Dannon Yogurt[edit]

This well-known product should be its own topic not a redirect to this topic. Somebody please fix this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.42.157.5 (talk) 23:07, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Ambiguity[edit]

What does Barcelona have to do with the Balkans? That sentence doesn't make sense. --Joy [shallot] 15:06, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The sentence doesn't imply any connection other than that yogurt comes from the Balkans. There is ambiguity, though, in that the text doesn't say where Isaac was from, whether from Spain, the Balkans, or elsewhere (though the name may be Italian or Romanian). ~ 71.32.99.20 05:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Etymology[edit]

For a precise encyclopedia, do you think we can get a little more specific than that Dannon sounds more "American"...can we (I'm asking the linguists here) go so far as to say it sounds more Germanic/Anglo-Saxon (I use that term linguistically). Thanks ~ 71.32.99.20 05:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

It would be more accurate to say that "'Danone' was changed to 'Dannon' to Americanize the pronuniciation."

Yah, I agree. "Danone" in an eggs-over-easy American would be pronunced as "Day-none." So, "Dannon" might be used for the Americans to say "Danone" right. I'm just guessing here. -- 202.81.173.103 12:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

So how is Danone pronounced? The article hints it could be pronounced Dan-One (Dan 1). Or is it pronounced DAN-nun like in this American commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGlajRNIuA). Or is it more exotic sounding DAN-nōn (long "o" sound)?

Garble and some new information[edit]

The 4th paragraph has a garble concerning Soviet georgia. Looks like some words were dropped somewhere.

When Pepsi was interacting with Danone, some other facts appeared in French papers. I am not sure I am certain on all of these, but her they are:

The founder lived in Greece as a child and learned about yoghurt there.

Isaac Carasso lived in Ottoman Salonika, and left before the Greek armies took Salonika. See Isaac Carasso. --Macrakis 17:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Returning to Spain, he was the pioneer in industrial scale production of yoghurt.

He did not "return" to Spain. As a Sephardic Jew, his distant ancestors presumably came from Spain.

his departure from Spain was related to being on the wrong side fo the Spanish Civil War. --Macrakis 17:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

His departure from France to the US and restart there under the Dannon name was a result of his being Jewish and escaping from the Holocaust.

Danone later merge with a glass bottle maker and that family made it a world class company.

Could someone confirm these facts and work them in?

Biscuits sale[edit]

As of now, Kraft Foods is now in talks with Groupe Danone over buying its biscuits and cereals division. It was said that it will be both beneficial for the two companies, as Kraft can focus on snacks, while Danone can focus on health foods. The deal will be valued at $7.2 billion. I don't know how to put footnotes, so just Google it. -- 202.81.173.103 13:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Danone International Prize for Nutrition[edit]

It is common practice for corporations to promote the corporate brand in this way. Danone is a mass producer of processed foods which wants to be portrayed as a health-oriented company. What better way than to set up an institute for study into the beneficial effects of the types of food which it produces? We should not swallow the publicity about the independence of this establishment - it wears the Danone brand name, and the management knows on which side their bread is buttered. If it was truly independent of Danone, it would probably be called the "Antoine Riboud Institute International" or somesuch. There appear also to be few reliable and independent sources to support the content of the article, meaning it could well fail WP:A. I would contend that this is therefore an extension of Danone corporate communications, and the prize is a best case redirect to Danone Institute International, and a worst case redirect to Groupe Danone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohconfucius (talkcontribs) 23:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

US re-acquisition?[edit]

Under Name chapter the following divestment is mentioned:

"In 1951, Daniel Carasso returned to Paris to manage the family's businesses in France and Spain, and the American business was sold off in 1959. In Europe, Danone merged with Gervais, the leading fresh cheese producer in France in 1967, becoming Gervais Danone."

Questions: Is Dannon (America) today a fully independent company/brand? In what fashion is the relationship between Dannon and Danone regulated today? - RomânescEsteLatin (talk) 01:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Perhaps there may be a little confusion in the text about what exactly was sold off, and the relation to parts of Danone's US business today. I believe the American 'Dannon' today is part of the Group Danone. Its spelling is to give the American market the same sounding name as it does in Europe, that's all. Ohconfucius (talk) 01:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

lawsuit?[edit]

Just heard on a Vancouver radio station that Danone lossed a 25 million dollar lawsuit over claims that yogurt is good for you. They must be talking about the probiotic crap they are always going on about in the belly dancer commercials. Any information on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.69.132.224 (talk) 15:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

diminutive?[edit]

Article sez:

The factory was named Danone, a Catalan diminutive of the name of his first son, Daniel Carasso.

Now, I don't speak Catalan. But in closely related languages such as Spanish and Italian, the suffix -one or -on is not a diminutive. It's an augmentative, precisely the opposite. --Trovatore (talk) 09:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

According to the Catalan and Spanish Wikipedias, it is a diminutive indeed; seems the meaning of the augmentative has changed into a diminutive sense in Catalan, and I seem to recall having seen diminutives in -one or cognate forms before. What I found immediately more disturbing was the fact that the form Danone looks neither Catalan nor Spanish, and indeed the Spanish Wikipedia gives Danón as Daniel's original nickname (though I presume that in Catalan, it would be Danó). --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:34, 15 September 2011 (UTC)