Talk:Helmut Rüffler

This page was proposed for deletion by K.e.coffman (talk · contribs) on 19 September 2017 with the comment:
Reverted to revision 764661525 by K.e.coffman (talk): Restore redirect, pls see talk. (TW)
It was contested by Pudeo (talk · contribs) on 2017-08-17 with the comment:
Reverted to revision 776796252 by Icewhiz (talk): Notable topic, use AfD if disagree (TW)

This page was proposed for deletion by K.e.coffman (talk · contribs) on 10 February 2017 with the comment:
#REDIRECT List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (R) -- pls see Talk
It was contested by Icewhiz (talk · contribs) on 2017-04-23 with the comment:
Undid revision 764661525 by K.e.coffman (talk) notable as ace

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Notability[edit]

Does not meet WP:SOLDIER & sig RS coverage not found: link, just a few passing mentions. "Successful completion of missions" (i.e. enemy aircraft shot down) is not part of SOLDIER criteria.

No de.Wiki article. Please also see a note at MilHist Talk Archives for background behind the redirect. In summary, per the outcome of the discussion at Notability:People on notability of Knight's Cross recipients: permalink, certain recipients were deemed non notable and WP:SOLDIER has been modified accordingly: diff. The articles of these recipients are being redirected to alphabetical lists. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:23, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notable due to his status as a Flying ace with a high claimed kills counts. As you can see in List of World War II flying aces - flyers with a much smaller kill count have articles - with the notability being their kill count and nothing else. Being an aerial ace (with a significant count for a particular conflict - 5 would be borderline for WWII, but would confer significance in any other conflict - mid-double digits and up for WWII is clearly significant).Icewhiz (talk) 09:58, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect[edit]

Restoring the redirect. Successful completion of missions (sorties flown, # of enemy aircraft shot down, etc) is not part of SOLDIER. A MilHist RfC on this topic has failed to gain consensus in May of 2017:

MilHist:RfC on the notability of flying aces.

For a relevant AfD, please see:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fritz Lüddecke, which closed as "Delete" in September 2017.

Please also see the discussion with the editor who had earlier objected to the redirect: Link. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:37, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]