Talk:Home Guard (United Kingdom)

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Changed the references to "Remington P14" and "P17" rifles to Pattern 14 and M1917 respectively. Remington was only one of three manufacturers of the P14 and M1917; Winchester and Eddystone (formerly a Baldwin Locomotive Works plant purchased by Remington) were also manufacturers. The .30 caliber US version was the M1917, there was no "Pattern 17"/"P17." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.230.63.56 (talk) 07:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


What the heck happened?[edit]

Some person (78.32.184.176) vandalised the page, going from a decent wikified article to amateurish garbage. I am reverting to a previous edit (by Timrollpickering at 23:17, 16 November 2008). CMarshall (talk) 14:37, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

In the belief that sources are now adequately given, I will now delete the reference. If you do not agree, please feel free to undo this.FWTTVK 03:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Anti-aircraft defences[edit]

As far as I can tell this section is not about the Home Guard at all. They were neither observers or gunners. Why is this section here? 199.71.183.2 (talk) 20:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Ditto the coastal artillery section. Most vulnerable sections of coast had regular troops in the summer of 1940 - see Alanbrooke's War Diaries.
I have removed the a-a defences and coastal sections as they do not appear to be relevant at all. MilborneOne (talk) 18:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
The home guard did operate anti-aircraft artillery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 02:31, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Not untill later in the war.Slatersteven (talk) 12:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

The Eagle has landed[edit]

This movie has nothing to do with the Home Guard , while its similar to the other film mentioned its should not be included in this article Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Furthermore, "Went the Day Well" has the Home Guard unit massacred by the disguised German forces fairly early on: it is the villagers themselves who raise the alarm and finally attack the invaders!

Ahem, the book "The Eagle has landed" featured the Home Guard rather than the US Army Rangers as the protagonists. Books are often made unrecognizable in the process of turning them into feature films. Read a book once in a while, buddy. 76.237.239.102 (talk) 00:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Safekeeping - Early History[edit]

The first to grasp the nettle and form volunteer units along this line was Commander-in-Chief Walter Kirke. Witness to the destruction of Poland in September 1939, Kirke knew that it was only a matter of time before the tanks and war planes of the Wehrmacht came to Britain's doorstep. Kirke also knew that, in such an event, Britain would be woefully under prepared.

As early as 1939, following the torpedoing of HMS Royal Oak at anchor in Scapa Flow, Scotland, Winston Churchill wrote a letter to the Chiefs of Staff asking, "What would happen if 20,000 enemy troops were to land on the east coast of England?"

General Kirke founded the Local Defence Volunteers in February 1940. Initially devised as a means to defend the critical port of Dover, the ranks swelled quickly with local volunteers, too old to enlist but eager to fight. Though not yet acknowledged by the British government, they began training to operate the batteries of four-, six-, and nine-inch artillery pieces which defended the port. Directed seaward to repel naval bombardment, these gun emplacements doubled in number with emergency positions which were being assembled even as the British Expeditionary Force left for Europe. While the coastal guns and the LDV stayed behind, the BEF marched to the borders of France and into battle.

Safekeeping - Further Reading/References[edit]

  • Charles Graves - The Home Guard of Britain (1943)
  • Norman Longmate - The Real Dad's Army - the story of the Home Guard
  • S. P. MacKenzie - The Home Guard — A Military and Political History. (Oxford University Press, 1995) ISBN 0-19-820577-5.
  • 'Duty Without Glory' - The story of Ulster's Home Guard in the Second World War and the Cold War by David R Orr (Redcoat Publishing, 2008)
  • 'To The Last Round: The Leicestershire & Rutland Home Guard 1940-1945' by Austin J. Ruddy, Breedon Books (2007)

Post War[edit]

There is an item in The Times 1954 about a post-war Home Guard. --jmb (talk) 18:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

The Times, Friday, Mar 05, 1954; pg. 10; Issue 52872; col G
Home Guard Study Their Duties Stanford Exercise BY OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT