Talk:Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

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Reformatted, Edited and made Additions to the Entire Article[edit]

Well, I edited the entire article, cleaned it up and added a bunch of references and other pertinent info, including the School's historical origins; took a while but it seems more comprehensive, structured and cogent within the parameters of an encyclopediac entry. Could still use a tad more work though with brief sections on the different departments and their contributions.TennisGrandSlam (talk) 19:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

JHUBSPH is clearly not the oldest school of public health in the world[edit]

The Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine was founded in 1898, followed closely by the London School (LSHTM). The JSTOR article that is presented as reference #7 states that Britain began requiring public health degrees in 1899. Also, LSHTM has more students, so that's another false claim in this article.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.160.45.44 (talk) 21:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

JHUBSPH is not even the oldest in the U.S.

Tulane University's School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine was founded two years before the JHUBSPH. This would make Tulane's the oldest and JHUBSPH the second oldest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.106.150.191 (talk) 04:40, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Tulane is not the oldest "school" of public health. It was founded as a "division" of the Tropical School of Medicine. It did not become an "independent" school until the mid-twentieth century. Also asph.org is not a relevant source since it merely cites info from the school's own sources.

Tulane's SPH was not founded as a division of the tropical school of medicine. It was established as an independent school. It later merged with the medical school, and then broke away again. The reality is that a birth date of an entity or division follows it throughout it's existence. This is akin to the birth date of an individual remaining the same before, during and after marriage. It is shameful that a prestigious public health school has a problem understanding they were not the first to achieve something. Tulane is merely reporting facts represented in sources and institution archives.

Wikipedia is a community effort to provide an accurate representation of facts. Regurgitating specific sources that may have incorrect or incomplete information, such as user TennisGrandSlam has frequently done throughout this webpage, does not lead to an accurate representation of a topic. If Wikipedia is to be a legitimate source of information, and I believe it is, then it must combat attempts by persons to utilize the medium for marketing purposes.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.184.151 (talk) 19:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Dear Leroy e. brown, if it means that much to you feel free to cite Tulane as the 1st school of public despite the Hopkins article (prior to your removal of references) citing at least 7-8 independent references to counter your claim and substantiate JHSPH being the 1st. This "editing war of attrition" is not worth my time. I hope you find solace in this. Be well!TennisGrandSlam (talk) 04:04, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

"== AIV == Your AIV report against User:Leroy e. brown has been declined. His edits are not vandalism--see WP:VANDAL. It looks to me like the two of you are having a dispute about which citations to use. Instead of edit warring, go to the article's talk page and discuss it. I note that neither of you have discussed it outside of edit summaries. If you don't stop, you might both be blocked for edit warring. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:43, 5 October 2011 (UTC)"

If it is not worth your time, then why have you gone to great lengths to change Tulane's website and revert the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg SPH page so many times? Why have you reported me as a vandal, if you are not interested in war? Clearly this is worth a great deal of your time! Anyway, know that your request for my being designated as such was denied, and that I have never removed any references. There are several people from all over the world who have written on this discussion page with regard to the false information you are so vehemently representing. And, yes, the facts do mean a great deal to me. I have been in this business since 1963, and I have no intention of quitting. People like you and Walter Wiggins must be subdued. Please govern yourself accordingly. Leroy E. Brown (talk) 04:32, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I find your reaction and comments rather amusing; you clearly have not read the references in the article which are a lot older than the reference you cite which state that Hopkins is the oldest school of public health. Clearly this is a matter near and dear to your heart to which you have attached so much of your own ego to, so like I said I will let you be, your aberrant "encyclopedia browned" resources and flawed "investigational" skills not withstanding -- my gift to you. :) Cheers! TennisGrandSlam (talk) 16:54, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Once again, you are back to devote more time to the topic! The truth is near and dear to my heart. If it makes you feel better to consider the truth your gift, then I gladly accept it on behalf of all of the people who have objected to your tirade of puffery. Leroy E. Brown (talk) 22:04, 5 October 2011 (UTC)