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Type species of Lonchura[edit]

Both Peters and H&M4 appear to contain incorrect information on the type of Lonchura so I posted a query on Birdforum here. Laurent Raty kindly provided a detailed reply. He confirmed my suspicions and provided a link to an article by Wiegmann that had fixed the type.

  • The genus Lonchura was introduced by Sykes in 1832.[1]
  • Sykes listed three species in the genus:
    • Lonchura nisoria, Fringilla nisoria, Temm
    • Lonchura cheet
    • Lonchura leuconota, Fringilla leuconota, Temm
  • Fringilla nisoria had been described by Temminck in 1830.[2]
  • Fringilla nisoria Temminck 1830 is now considered as a subspecies of the scaly-breasted munia (Lonchura punctulata nisoria)[3]

Paynter 1968 volume 14 of the Check-List of Birds of the World (ie Peters):

"Lonchura Sykes, 1832, Proc. Zool. Soc. London, p. 94. Type, by original designation, Fringilla nisoria Temminck = Loxia punctulata Linnaeus. Not preoccupied by Lonchurus Bloch, 1793 (Pisces)."[4]

Here the "Type, by original designation" is incorrect - Sykes listed three species and didn't specify a type.

Dickinson & Christidis 2014 in H&M4 Vol 2:

"LONCHURA Sykes, 1832 F - Fringilla nisoria Sykes, 1832; type by subsequent designation (Sharpe, 1890, Cat. Birds Brit. Mus., 13, p. 326). = Loxia punctulata Linnaeus, 1758"[5]

Here "Fringilla nisoria Sykes, 1832" is clearly incorrect - it should be Fringilla nisoria Temminck, 1830.

Dickinson & Christidis cite Sharpe who in 1890 wrote "Lochura, Sykes, P. Z. S. 1832, p. 94 Type Munia punctulata.[6]

Under the ICZN code (Art 69.1. Type species by subsequent designation), the type species must be "one of the originally included nominal species" - which would only work if Fringilla nisoria is considered as a synonym of Fringilla punctulata Linnaeus 1758.
  • Raty provided a link to a 1835 publication by Arend Wiegmann in which Wiegmann unambiguously fixed the type: "(Typus der Gatung Lonchura is Frigilla nisoria Temm.)".[7]

Based on the above I've made small changes to the article.

References

  1. ^ Sykes, William Henry (1832). "Catalogue of birds of the raptorial and insessorial orders (systematically arranged,) observed in the Dukhun". Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London. 2 (18): 77–99 [94].
  2. ^ Temminck, Coenraad Jacob (1830). Nouveau recueil de planches coloriées d'oiseaux, pour servir de suite et de complément aux planches enluminées de Buffon (in French). Vol. 3. Paris: F.G. Levrault. Plate 500, Fig. 2.
  3. ^ Gill, Frank; Donsker, David; Rasmussen, Pamela, eds. (July 2023). "Waxbills, parrotfinches, munias, whydahs, Olive Warbler, accentors, pipits". IOC World Bird List Version 13.2. International Ornithologists' Union. Retrieved 30 July 2023.
  4. ^ Paynter, Raymond A. Jr, ed. (1968). Check-List of Birds of the World. Vol. 14. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Museum of Comparative Zoology. p. 372.
  5. ^ Dickinson, E.C.; Christidis, L., eds. (2014). The Howard & Moore Complete Checklist of the Birds of the World. Vol. 2: Passerines (4th ed.). Eastbourne, UK: Aves Press. p. 297. ISBN 978-0-9568611-2-2.
  6. ^ Sharpe, R. Bowdler (1890). Catalogue of the Passeriformes or Perching Birds in the Collection of the British Museum. Sturnformes. Catalogue of the Birds in the British Museum. Vol. 13. London: Trustees of the British Museum. p. 326.
  7. ^ Wiegmann, Arend (1835). "Bericht über die Fortschritte der Zoologie im Jahre 1834, vom Herausgeber". Archiv für Naturgeschichte. 1 (2): 255-348 [306].

Aa77zz (talk) 13:51, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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