Talk:Nalanda College, Colombo

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Cleanup[edit]

  • No unvaluable or unnecessary data are included in this valuable encyclopedia for Nalanda College. All data are relevant to the school. Nothing is copied from any of the other schools or from any where on the internet. References are given for the facts that are included. "list of alumni of the named school" are on almost every school page that are published on this valuable encyclopedia wikipedia some even have photos of their alumni Lists of people by school affiliation against the name. We have no intention of using this valuable encyclopedia wikipedia to advertise Nalanda College, Buddhism or it's Alumini. Infact Nalanda College has it's own web page on the Internet that is highly advanced than most of the school web pages found on the Internet. Nalanda College has got relevent internal links, external links, references etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masu7 (talk • contribs) 08:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can not understand why they have included these un necessary data in this valuable encyclopedia. They could have include these things in their web site. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.43.239.157 (talk)
  • This article isn't much more than a list of alumni of the named school, most of whom can't be considered relevant; furthermore there are several formal problems (e.g. excessive use of titles and honorifics). Ananda College could be taken as an example of how to do it right. -- Krankman 11:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC) (copied from Wikipedia:cleanup by Rjgodoy)[reply]
  • I have cut down the list to only blue links with one exception, moved sections around as well. Images were removed as the lack of other content to put them into context with made the article into advertising. --Lendorien 16:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please give rationale when removing templates[edit]

Removing redlink lists[edit]

I am reverting edits done by User:203.194.12.46 to previous version. I had previously cut the list down to notable names, blue-links. Please see Wikipedia:List guideline for guidelines on this before reverting. Please also keep in mind that all names on the list are supposed to be properly sourced as well. --Lendorien 21:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Another revert. Some unsigned user keeps reverting to the redlink version, despite the fact that additional information has been added since the new versionw as created. --Lendorien 17:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please, people, respect Wikipedia guidelines for notable personalities and for what an encyclopedic article is supposed to look like (see Lendorien's remarks above). What you are doing is not conducive to the development of Wikipedia into a reliable, serious source of information. In the end, with an article like that, Ananda College itself will become an object of ridicule. Thank you. Krankman 21:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Cossde and Nalanda College Colombo[edit]

Your behaviour and attitude towards Nalanda College Colombo is appauling. I know that you are a highly decorated and awarded wikipedian. This time you even put "Nalanda Central College Colombo". What's next name on the list ? (Masu7 (talk) 22:58, 17 October 2011 (UTC))

I am reporting about User: Cossde He is deliberately attacking this web page and this time gone too far (Nalanda Central College Colombo). He seems to think that he only knows English and every thing he writes only is correct. I have gone through the pages that he had edited most and he is mostly inclined towards slinging mud towards a good looking and well written page like Nalanda College Colombo. Can a single user just because he is got highly decorated awards by wikipedia keep doing like this ? Nalanda College Colombo has got a high rate given by the viewers too. May be this guy is jealous of this. Will keep writing useful translations to SINHALA as well. In reality this school has it's own web pages nicely done on internet too.(Masu7 (talk) 01:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)).


Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Thanking you so much. Well my question is "Why is this user Cossde is not allowing me to name this article as Nalanda College, Colombo. He is always reverting it back to either Nalanda Vidyalaya or Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya and this time have been so smart and added (Nalanda Central College Colombo) within brackets. This shows what his attitude even though he is won so many awards from wikipedia. In that case I myself (I am talented and fluent in English too although my native language is not English) too have immensly contributed so many pages both in Sinhala and English even though I have no user page created for myself. Cossde may think that he is the only person who knows correct English and he is the only person who is honest and reporting extremely accurately. I strongly suggest that a senior administrator should keep an eye on his editing and attitude as well.(Masu7 (talk) 02:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)). (Masu7 (talk) 02:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)).(Masu7 (talk) 06:36, 18 October 2011 (UTC)).(Masu7 (talk) 06:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

This link was posted to Cossde's talk page where an IP user has logged a page of disgruntled posts detailing their naming dispute. It's basically an attack page on how Cossde has been changing the references of Old Royalists to Alumni of various colleges in Sri Lanka back in Nov 2010. (I might nominate this for MfD) Basically this is boiling down to a content dispute which hasn't actually been discussed on any talk page. Masu7 has posted the same text they posted here on Cossde's talk page, which reeks of bad faith and ownership of the article. Having a look at Masu7's contribs, they're obviously a WP:SPA, not in a bad way, devoted to editing anything related to the Nalanda college. The problem is that this user has been here since 2007 and has a few thousand edits of which I can count on barely two hands the number of times they've used an edit summary. I suggest that Masu7 actually talk to Cossde and discuss the edits before hurling accusations at them. --Blackmane (talk) 08:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, since I was named here, just wanted to say that my recent edits have been to rectify a naming anomaly on the articles since the name used in the Sri Lankan Governemnt Gazette [63]. The name stated Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya, translated to English it means Nalanda Big College, however Maha Vidyalaya is the name given to a form of government run schools known as central colleges hence the Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya would mean Nalanda Central College. Since it appeared so on the Sri Lankan Governemnt Gazette I renamed the articles accordingly as its a government school. Cossde (talk) 13:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes you are named here (a complaint about user Cossde) no doubt. This user seem to make words according to his/her own wish and still dominate and specifically target Nalanda College Colombo. It is extremely interesting to read user Cossde history pages [It's basically an attack page on how Cossde has been changing the references of Old Royalists to Alumni of various colleges in Sri Lanka back in Nov 2010. (I might nominate this for MfD) - please do so if Wikipedia has got a proper administration, I request as any one who understands English and read this page can understand what Cossde's motive is]. This is a classic clear cut of this user's [Cossde] ATTITUDE (specially towards other schools other than Highly Esteemed Royal College Colombo). I am amazed as to how this user got so many awards from Wikipedia. I am [user Masu7] not a super speaker of English or have no super understanding of millions of rules that are on Wikipedia web site (I think majority of users are in same boat as me).(Masu7 (talk) 01:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

First of all, do not keep putting up the ANI notice template at the start of each of your posts. I've just done some map searching on Google Maps. The two names refer to different locations. A search for Nalanda College Colombo locates to central Colombo (next to Ananda as the article says) while a search for Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya locates to separate girls and boys schools in Minuwangoda. To make things even mroe confusing, there is another Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya article for an obscure school in Elpitiya which Google maps locates to another Ananda College. I think the editors need to hash out which schools they're talking about before going back to the article. Masu7 please refrain from attacking editors when you have not attempted to discuss the article content at all. Also, Cossde's "awards" are not from Wikipedia, they are signs of appreciation of their work by other editors here. Any editor can place an "award" on any other editor's user page. Please read this policy. --Blackmane (talk) 11:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are right about the Google Maps search. Wiki Article in question is the one that locates to central Colombo (next to Ananda as the article says). I am talking about Nalanda College in Colombo and below are the related sites both in English and Sinhala:

If for example Royal College is searched you get a Royal College Panadura [1], Royal College Polonnaruwa [2] etc. If some one wants to carry on the debate it will be never ending. It is not confusing. This is not a personal attack on any editor at all. It is just a fact that I am presenting to Wiki Administrators regarding none other than editor Cossde. If the administrators go through this users actions it is not hard to understand at all. I too appreciate the good work done by editor Cossde but not his attitude specially focussed to the site that I am concerned.(Masu7 (talk) 00:46, 20 October 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

      • You do not have to be a genius to understand what my initial issue is. According to my research on wikipedia there should only be one Royal College in Sri Lanka. Below paragraphs are found on Royal College, Colombo that say (without any credible references):

Royal and other Schools - Royal College's maintains a century old rivalry with S. Thomas' College, Mount Lavinia as well as close ties with Trinity College, Kandy. Royal has long had a familial relationship with C.M.S. Ladies' College, Colombo : several families who chose to send their sons to Royal also chose to send their daughters to Ladies College, and many Old Royalists over the years have married alumni of C.M.S. Ladies' College, Colombo.

In 1945, Minister of Education C. W. W. Kannangara began the establishment of central colleges (Madhya Maha Vidhyala) as part of the Free Education policy to provide secondary education for the rural masses, he modeled these schools on the general structure of Royal College. Although there are several schools in parts of the island that have adapted the name Royal College in the post-independence era; none have links to Royal College Colombo nor have been received formal permission to use the Royal prefix.

This makes sense why editors like Cossde are trying their best to make any school coming up as Royal on wikipedia to be renamed as Rajakeeya (this is the name in Sinhala for Royal) or to isolate from Royal College Colombo.

On Cinnamon Gardens page it tries to isolate Thurstan College that is located just closer to Royal College (when a map searching is done on Google Maps) being added.

If such a statement is added to one of the other schools it will be deleted immediately saying that "Wikipedia is not for promotional activity". Why double standards and policies ?. Who monitors activity on Royal College, Colombo ?. (Masu7 (talk) 08:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)). (Masu7 (talk) 22:42, 20 October 2011 (UTC)).(Masu7 (talk) 22:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

It may be hard to decipher from the ^above^ but the issue here is whether this article should be titled Nalanda College or Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya Colombo. For editors who are not familiar there are a number of schools called Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya but this article is about the one in central Colombo. The Wikipedia policy we need to consider is WP:COMMONNAME which states "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language". The school's official name appears to be Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya but we need to ascertain its common name. The school calls itself Nalanda College. A Google search for Nalanda College Colombo returns 132,000 results but Nalanda Maha Vidyalaya Colombo only returns 32,500 results. Google map shows the school as Nalanda College. Even the Ministry of Education calls the school Nalanda College in this news release. It's clear to me that this article should be called Nalanda College.--obi2canibetalk contr 15:55, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear about this (as I've been editing the article) - I don't care and have no view on what this article is or should be called but if it is renamed, make sure it is done in the right way, cut and paste moves break the history and are the wrong way to do it. --Cameron Scott (talk) 16:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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