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Problematic wording[edit]

The intro currently says this: "A total of 2335 missiles were produced; all were destroyed in 1993 under the START II treaty." This is clearly not true, in that it implies that all were in service and destroyed in 1993, whereas in reality by 1993 the SS-4 would have been (extremely) obsolete and it seems doubtful that any would have remained in service. The treaty quoted also seems incorrect. The text below confirms these suspicions, and gives a different date: "The last of the 149 Soviet SS-4 missiles was (sic) eliminated at Lesnaya in May 1990. globalsecurity.org also indicates that the text in the Wiki intro is wrong: "The last of 149 Soviet SS-4 missiles was eliminated at the Lesnaya Missile Elimination Facility in May 1990." https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/r-12.htm I suggest that the intro could usefully be reworded as "A total of 2335 missiles were produced; the last of these were destroyed in 1990 under the Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty." Theeurocrat (talk) 19:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]