Talk:Richard S. Fuld Jr.

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Source[edit]

I just reverted a copyvio of material from Thomson Gale's Reference for Business. However, it does look a useful research source: see [1]. Tearlach 03:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

This article is in need of better tone, and sourcing. --Rajah (talk) 11:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it also needs proof of alelgations he was defending a cadet, such as court martial transcript, not just a blurb from a paper! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.31.3.195 (talk) 15:10, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No way. The allegations are widely reported and well sourced. The tone is actually way too mild compared to his malicious activities. --386-DX (talk) 15:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lehman bankruptcy[edit]

I thought they filed for Chapter 7 not Chapter 11. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.82.200.117 (talk) 01:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, numerous sources provided over at the Lehman Brothers article are reporting it as a Chapter 11 filing. — Satori Son 16:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're both right, or wrong, depending on what you meant. The parent company, Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., filed for Chapter 11 protection on September 15. The broker-dealer subsidiary, Lehman Brothers Inc., filed for Chapter 7 protection the following Friday. ButtonwoodTree (talk) 13:25, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A biography doesn't begin at age twenty-three.[edit]

One would think from this article that Mr. Fuld was born in 1969 instead of 1946 and that his birth was of the apocryphal cabbage patch variety. Who were his parents? Of what religion? Or station? Was he raised as a Jew or not? These questions are often skirted or deleted in Wikipedia. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orthotox (talk • contribs) 00:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone really believe this Draft Dodger born in 1946 so was the optimum Vietnam War draft age ever really intended to finish ROTC and go into the Military? Someone needs to delete this entire bogus part of the entry. It adds nothing except cover for his cowardice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The-Expose-inator (talk • contribs) 16:23, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fuld's Religion[edit]

This is ridiculous. The vast majority of biographical entries on Wikipedia don't mention the religion of the person under review for the simple reason that IT'S NOT RELEVANT. Fuld is not an Orthodox Jew, he doesn't profess to live his life by his religion and he doesn't claim that a religious upbringing inspired his career. To include his religion is irrelevant and potentially demeaning.--Aniboker (talk) 12:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Biographical entries on wikipedia do mention religion and usually, in the case of Americans, their ancestry is named. Fuld is Jewish. It is a fact. Relevancy is a matter of Judgement. Your energy would be far better spent showing the politicians, attorneys, shareholders etc who were/are also Jewish, who are honest to the core and who opposed people like Fuld at every turn. Jewish people who have lost their entire life savings thanks to Fuld.

Defending Fuld simply because he is Jewish is sickening. It is like defending Skilling or Lay because they are, whatever they are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.195.223 (talk) 16:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Adding it back... --386-DX (talk) 15:34, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tone of article[edit]

"However, the "Gorilla" warfare would soon be over with the coming of the credit crisis, a force apparently more powerful than Wall Street. It is at this critical juncture that Fuld made the classic competitive error: underestimate the opponent and overestimate self."

The tone of this entry reads like an opinion column in the NYT. It needs to be rewritten to reflect a neutral style of writing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.69.2 (talk) 19:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guerrilla or Gorilla?[edit]

It seems that there's some sort of confusion between the various editors. Was he referred to as "Gorilla" or "Guerrilla"? It's too coincidental that both terms, that are actually close in meaning and pronunciation, appear in this article. Would be nice if someone settled it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.219.147.167 (talk) 10:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone compare and contrast Fuld with say Rick Wagoner at GM?[edit]

Can someone compare and contrast Fuld with say Rick Wagoner at GM?

What was it about these CEOs that made their companies fail so badly?

Plenty of data on what makes a CEO great, but what makes them so bad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.32.138 (talk) 17:51, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fuld and Fraud[edit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUQiA4LtkmQ

MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan aired this 3/12/10, wherein they state unequivocally that Fuld and others at Lehman committed Criminal Fraud by borrowing tens of Billions of dollars in short term loans from Lenders, used the loans to make their financial picture look better than it was to prospective investors and declared to the government regulators that the cash was acquired by the sale of "toxic assets", when instead those assets were used as collateral for a loan. And further, the collapse was started when the Lenders discovered that the collateral was worthless, which was what precipitated the crisis in the first place. Also I note that this might be the answer to Fuld's self-serving question as to "Why" Lehman was allowed to collapse, when other institutions were not. Maybe it was allowed to fail because it was the most corrupt and criminal of them all. This article mentions none of this, and I wonder why. Also, in response to other discussions, I think that Fuld's "religion" is relevant to this article, just like it would be in any other article of this type.2605:6000:6947:AB00:9903:9D51:5B51:963E (talk) 02:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It appears a PR firm or handler is at play in this article. Lots of things keep going missing. 121.210.33.50 (talk) 18:07, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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