Talk:Rock River (Mississippi River)

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Why is this article titled "Rock River (Illinois)"? The Rock River flows through BOTH Wisconsin and Illinois, and is about of equal length in the two states. Why not title it "Rock River (Wisconsin and Illinois)"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.76.136.122 (talk) 02:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I think this article was labeled as such to prevent confusion with other rivers named Rock River. To renamed the article as: Rock Island (Wisconsin and Illinois) would too long and cumbersome. I think the title should stay the same. Thank you-RFD (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I was looking for the Rock River that I was familiar with in Wisconsin, and when I came to the disambiguation page, and saw only "Rock River (Illinois)," it wasn't clear to me if that was the article I was seeking. Including both Wisconsin and Illinois in the title would make it crystal clear. I would think that accuracy trumps length. 64.252.13.235 (talk) 19:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Looking at Category:Tributaries of the Mississippi River, none of those are tagged with two states. How about creating Rock River (Wisconsin) and making it a redirect to this article? — Zaui (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree with suggestion Zaui made. Thank you-RFD (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The redirect, with the corresponding mention does seem to be appropriate. Concise titles tend to be more useful. --Duplode 00:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duplode (talkcontribs)
The reason none of the rivers listed in Category:Tributaries of the Mississippi River are tagged with two states is because most have names that are one of a kind, so they don't need modifiers. I did notice Red River (Mississippi watershed) in that list. Just like the Rock River, that river is in multiple states AND there are multiple rivers with that name. So I propose that the Rock River article be titled: Rock River (Mississippi watershed). That solves the problem of inappropriately naming it with only one of the two states through which it flows.12.76.152.19 (talk) 19:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm ok with this suggestion. — Zaui (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd recommend going with the naming scheme outlined in WP:Rivers which would give you Rock River (Mississippi River), saying Mississippi watershed isn't really good enough as there are other Rock Rivers in the watershed, but this is the only one that's a direct tributary of the Mississippi River. Kmusser (talk) 21:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

It is favortism to just use Illinois. Presumptive (talk) 04:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it since there haven't been any more comments. Kmusser (talk) 14:05, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

The source in Wisconsin is incorrect, as any topographical map will show. To find the source of a river, the direction of the main channel is used. The Mississippi River does not turn west and go up the longer and larger Missouri River. It also does not turn east and go up the Ohio or Wisconsin or any other river. The basic channel is north-south, as is the Rock River. The Rock River does NOT go eastward at the lower level of the Horicon Marsh and follow the East Branch. It goes north through the Horicon Marsh, where just above the marsh, the tributary South Branch meets with the West Branch, which continues north, with the Willow Creek and Ladoga Creek tributaries emptying into it from the west. The east side of the terrain of the West Branch has moraines that separate the Rock River watershed that flows into the Mississippi River from the waters to the east of the moraines that flow into Lake Michigan. The Niagara Escarpment, known locally as the Ledge, also lies to the east and prevents any major creeks or rivers from entering the Rock River until the East Branch does so, nearly eight miles below the Fond du Lac County and Dodge County line. Therefore, the East Branch is NOT the source the source of this Rock River. I lived beside the Rock River just east of Ladoga, Wisconsin. The West Branch begins just west of the village of Brandon, Metomen township, Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin. Here is a watershed map for the Upper Rock River in Wisconsin. http://dnr.wi.gov/water/basin/uprock/ Any topographic map will verify that the West Branch is the source. I can provide one to anyone who needs it. Glen R. Salter grsalter1@gmail.com The 1920 World Book had the length as 325 miles. http://books.google.com/books?id=NeJTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA5043&lpg=PA5043&dq=%22world+Book%22+%22Rock+River%22&source=bl&ots=kei3kWW-9G&sig=ftYBAB3WMbIyFczKGtRdwFMwfzs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ioepU6ThFNiXqAaG6ICgBA&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=%22world%20Book%22%20%22Rock%20River%22&f=false References <http://dnr.wi.gov/water/basin/uprock/></http://books.google.com/books?id=NeJTAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA5043&lpg=PA5043&dq=%22world+Book%22+%22Rock+River%22&source=bl&ots=kei3kWW-9G&sig=ftYBAB3WMbIyFczKGtRdwFMwfzs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ioepU6ThFNiXqAaG6ICgBA&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=%22world%20Book%22%20%22Rock%20River%22&f=false>12.160.114.251 (talk) 20:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC)