Talk:Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867
Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867 has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: July 30, 2023. (Reviewed version). |
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A fact from Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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GA Review[edit]
Detailed discussion of GA nomination: July 2023
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Reviewer: MaxnaCarta (talk · contribs) 00:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC) GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
Initial feedback[edit]Please action the following issues as a priority to meet criteria 2b.
Mr Serjeant Buzfuz - Please see above. After a quick scan, I do not foresee any major issues, provided the above is addressed. Please try your best to find some secondary sources for these and let me know what you come up with. This is the only criteria I immediately see that the article does not yet meet. If these are fixed, this should be a simple review. Thanks MC — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Did you know nomination[edit]
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 13:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- ... that Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867 requires that the Governor General of Canada give a royal recommendation for spending and tax bills prior to passage by the House of Commons of Canada? Source: http://www.revparl.ca/english/issue.asp?param=65&art=80 Keyes, John Mark, "When Bills and Amendments Require the Royal Recommendation: A Discussion Paper and Guidelines", Canadian Parliamentary Review, vol. 20, no. 4 (1997).
- ALT1: ... that Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867 of Canada is based on a rule of the British House of Commons, passed in 1713? Source: http://www.revparl.ca/english/issue.asp?param=65&art=80 Keyes, John Mark, "When Bills and Amendments Require the Royal Recommendation: A Discussion Paper and Guidelines", Canadian Parliamentary Review, vol. 20, no. 4 (1997).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maggie Tokuda-Hall
Improved to Good Article status by Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk). Self-nominated at 15:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Section 54 of the Constitution Act, 1867; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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Overall: @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: Good article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz and Onegreatjoke: just noting here that the reason this hasn't been promoted is both the hooks are rather uninteresting. Any chance that something "hookier" could be found? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:19, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Probably not. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that, unless you're a political science or Canadian politics buff, neither hook really stands out as hooky or catchy. If no other hooks are possible then regrettably this nomination may need to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:43, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have found in discussions with American friends that they are interested in the differences between Canadian and American political and constitutional systems and often find references to the role of the monarch in the Canadian system to be of interest. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:09, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- By the way, I don't think you could have come up with a more patronising and dismissive insult than "Canadian politics buff" if you had tried. You've made it clear that DYK is no place for quirks of Canadian politics. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- It's not that. I'm a big politics buff myself! It's really just, like what Airship said, the hooks just aren't that interesting, and in my case I'm adding that they're probably only interesting to people with an interest or familiarity with Canadian politics. This is not to say that we can't feature Canadian politics on DYK. Far from it! But hooks do need to meet the guidelines, including the one on specialist knowledge, and both hooks unfortunately fail that particular criterion in my eyes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that before that House of Commons of Canada considers a taxation or spending bill, a royal recommendation has to be given by the Governor General? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:36, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: I noticed that "Section 54 has not been amended since the Act was enacted in 1867." isn't cited. Could that be cited? Because I think that Leeky's suggestion works as a hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:11, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- To copy his talk page message "Hi Onegreatjoke, the cite is already there. It takes you to s. 54 in the annotated consolidation by the federal Department of Justice, and there are no footnotes to s. 54; that means it's not been amended. Compare to other sections like s. 51, which have footnotes showing the amendments. The absence of a footnote in the annotated consolidation is proof that there's not been an amendment. In my view, that annotated consolidation is a secondary source." Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:28, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: I noticed that "Section 54 has not been amended since the Act was enacted in 1867." isn't cited. Could that be cited? Because I think that Leeky's suggestion works as a hook. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:11, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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