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what is the door like - lilmissattitude

mare de déu de montserrat[edit]

this "basilica" is not located in terrassa but in monistrol de montserrat —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.76.106.154 (talk) 10:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

Red Sox Nation[edit]

"Red Sox Nation" in the article appearss to be a gratuitous reference to an external element- unrelated fandom. This is that reference:

"In Red Sox Nation, many Christians (especially Anglican and Roman Catholic) have small yard shrines; some of these greatly resemble side altars, since they are composed of a statue placed in a niche or grotto; this type is colloquially referred to as a bathtub Madonna. Nativity scenes are also a form of yard shrine."-

[run on sentence]

But WHAT's Red Sox Nation spozed to mean here? Is RSN in reference to location? the book? some cult expression - or what? 69.228.91.158 (talk) user: HILARLEO

Clean-up needed[edit]

This article/list had many sarcastic comments, which have now been removed, because the author was editorializing quite a bit against the Catholic Church and the Anglican Church. Since there are no citations in the descriptive paragraphs, where did this information come from in the first place? It seems like someone's personal opinions! --Funandtrvl (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I propose that this be changed to "List of shrines", without any descriptive, editorializing paragraphs. --Funandtrvl (talk) 02:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Islam section[edit]

The classical Sunni position has and always has been that it is forbidden to raise graves, pray near them, venerate or call upon the dead and so on. This is clearly referenced and can be widely read about in any book of sunni jurisprudence (Maliki, Sha'fi, Hanbali, Hanafi).

It is upon those that support the act of grave veneration, namely the shia and sufi groups, to provide references for these practices if they wish it to be incorporated into a unified Islam section. The truth is that they follow a unique POV and this should not affect the balance of the article with regard to the mainstream practice of Islam which forbids it.

It is recommended that the grave should not be raised more than one hand span. It should also be demarcated with some sort of ridge. The purpose for this is to make it clear that it is a grave so it will be respected.
Jâbir has narrated that the Prophet (peace be upon him) raised the level of a grave one hand span.
Al-Qâsim b. Muhammad said to `Aishah: “O `Aishah, mother, show me the grave of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and his two Companions. She exposed three graves. They were neither high nor flat, and they were covered with gravel.” [Sunan Abî Dâwûd]
It is disliked for a grave to be raised higher than that. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) sent `Ali b. Abî Tâlib to Yemen, he commanded him: “Do not leave a statue without destroying it or a high grave without leveling it.” [Sahîh Muslim]

Sakimonk talk 23:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Poorly Sources Material[edit]

Unfortunately, the entire section on Sunni Islam has been copied and pasted word for word from the following bigoted sources:

In addition to this being a copyright violation, the sources are not reliable or impartial. Islam QA is a fanatical Salafi website that considers all non-Salafis to be heretics and deviants.

The Sufism and Shi'ism sections are even worse as there is not a single reference given at all. I will look to rewrite the entire section using academic sources. Further, it is not clear to me why the Sufism section is separate to Sunni Islam given that Sufism is part of Sunni Islam. RookTaker (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Additionally, the entire section seems to be about the legality of constructing on graves. Whilst some of this might be relevant to this article, the definition of a shrine covers a lot more than this. RookTaker (talk) 15:11, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Shrine and Sanctuary[edit]

Which is the difference(s) between a shrine and a Sanctuary?. --Lagoset (talk) 10:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Shrine at Wat Phnom (Phnom {Penh)[edit]

There's an illustration supposedly of a Buddhist shrine at Wat Phnom in Phnom Penh. It's not. It's a memorial commemorating the return of three provinces to Cambodia in 1907. The statue is of king Sisowath, and the three ladies to the right symbolise the three provinces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.23.134.140 (talk) 03:06, 29 August 2014 (UTC)