Talk:Siege of Córdoba (1009–1013)

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This article was sourced to reader comments on web pages and two self published works that are not reliable under WP:RS. There is no mention of a 1011 massacre in our article on Cordoba. Jonathanwallace (talk) 13:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The truth appears to be quite different from this one-line article. And this is due to its reliance on one-line mentions in tertiary sources (for this subject). There are many of those, but the underlying events seem to be this:

Córdoba was ruled from 1010 to 1013 by the formerly deposed Hisham II al-Hakam, who was restored with Catalan assistance.
In 1010, the forces of Sulayman attacked the Caliphate of Córdoba. They took control of the Madinat az-Zahra and "established a base for [Sulayman's] Berber troops. From there he blockaded the city for the next two and a half years." (Fletcher, Richard (2006-05-05). Moorish Spain. University of California Press. p. 40. ISBN 9780520248403.)
From 1010 to 1013, these troops ransacked the countryside of the caliphate of Córdoba. These forces were known for religious intolerance.
In May 1013, Córdoba surrendered and was conquered. "Sulayman's Berber followers, who had already wrecked the palace at Madinat az-Zahra, sacked and plundered the city." (Fletcher, Richard (2006-05-05). Moorish Spain. University of California Press. p. 40. ISBN 9780520248403.)
During the fall "enormous numbers of citizens were massacred." (Fletcher, Richard (2006-05-05). Moorish Spain. University of California Press. p. 40. ISBN 9780520248403.)
Suleyman's forces "treated Córdoba as a city under enemy occupation and instituted a reign of terror, killing and looting as they pleased" during his three years of rule. (Fletcher, Richard (2006-05-05). Moorish Spain. University of California Press. p. 40. ISBN 9780520248403.)
At this time, in 1013, many Jews were killed. (Kantor, Máttis (2005-11-01). Codex Judaica: Chronological index of Jewish history, covering 5,764 years of Biblical, Talmudic & post-Talmudic history. Zichron Press. p. 176. ISBN 9780967037837.)
Prominent Jews in Córdoba, such as Samuel ibn Naghrela were forced to flee to the city in 1013. (Brann, Ross (2009-12-21). Power in the Portrayal: Representations of Jews and Muslims in Eleventh- and Twelfth-Century Islamic Spain. Princeton University Press. ISBN 9780691146737.)

I would recommend that this page be amplified and moved to Siege and fall of Córdoba with a date if necessary. It seems quite clear that "pogrom" is not the appropriate term, and also reasonably clear that a massacre of Jews is one element of the fall of Córdoba.--Carwil (talk) 14:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for doing the research. I agree with your suggestion. Jonathanwallace (talk) 14:46, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]