Talk:Siim Kallas

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Biased[edit]

This article seems a bit biased (pro-Kallas). The charges against him are not mentioned at all.

The whole article is lifted straight from his official biography on the European Commission website. So basically it is himself who has written this!!

I have removed the section. You are encouraged to be bold and remove any obviously bad information that conflicts with Wikipedia policies, as long as you do so civilly. -- intgr 13:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The guy is the EU commissioner for anti-fraud, yet he has been implicated in a scandal involving fraud (and a large sum of money by any standards, not just Estonian). This is relevant and should be mentioned in a comprehensive, balanced encyclopedia article. Take your pick of the sources -- there are plenty of objective ones.

I added a text about this but for some reason it was removed. Can whoever removed it explain *why* so i can improve it if need be? I have readded it because there was given no rationale as i can see for the removal. Deathcreepscloser (talk) 11:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now "XLinkBot" removed what i added again. What's happening?? Deathcreepscloser (talk) 11:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are adding a blog link to the article - which is a violation of Wikipedia rules. See WP:RS, which was linked to you by the bot as well. Also, the blog post seems to be rather... shall we say, biased. --Sander Säde 12:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

charges[edit]

I'm not the author of this article and haven't even read to the end. But it seems strange to question the neutrality of this article on the basis of not mentioning the "charges" made against him -- after the court has said "not guilty".

On the other hand, it would be strange to expect an official biography to be completely neutral. Because this biography is from EC official pages, it does not portray Kallas in general, but as a EC official. Kallas's activities during the soviet occupation are, for instance, are not mentioned at all. I think he was (for some time at least) a leader of the trade unions, and (before that) director of one of the soviet bank-like institutions.

---I translated the list of his professional activities during the occupation. I'm not 100% sure though that all the long names of the Soviet-era services are translated correctly, therefore somebody should check them. Kallas also was a member of the Communist Party (1972-1990), I guess somebody should add a topic about his political affiliations as well. Kaarel K, guest

Removed statement without source[edit]

I removed statements without sources. If such statements are to be included in the article they must be sourced, from good sources. Ulflarsen (talk) 11:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Estonia or Soviet Union?[edit]

Talking about this revert; while technically it's true that Estonia was under the Soviet regime, I think it's being overpedantic and misleading for readers.

Why were all other Estonian politicians born in Estonia, but Siim Kallas was born in "Tallinn, Soviet Union"? There are many examples to the contrary. -- intgr [talk] 08:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There was a lengthy discussion of regimes vs. geographical areas quite a while ago (I really should find and bookmark it), but the decision was to go always with geographical areas for birth- and death places. Reasoning was that the regimes change, but geographical areas remain the same. So "Tallinn, Soviet Union" should become "Tallinn, Estonia" everywhere when discussing birthplaces. --Sander Säde 09:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, he was born in the Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic, which was part of the USSR, why does the same Putin or Zelensky indicate that they were born in the USSR (in the RSFSR and the USSR, respectively), but this is not here, independent Estonia of which at that time did not even exist, well, in the Soviet period, he was part of the Soviet nomenklatura Siim Kallas, graduated with honors from Tartu State University with a degree in finance and credit, and noted his success in 1972 by joining the ranks of the CPSU.
His Soviet career was quite successful: director of the republican branch of the Sberbank of the USSR, deputy chief editor of the newspaper Rahva Hyael (an organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Estonia and the Council of Ministers of the Estonian SSR), chairman of the Central Union of Trade Unions of Estonia, people's deputy of the USSR. Цйфыву (talk) 22:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]