Talk:Sudanese refugees in Egypt

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Killing of refugees trying to get into Israel[edit]

Can someone provide some information on the killing of Sudanese by Egyptian police as they try to cross the border into Israel? Why do the Egyptians do this? Eric Kvaalen (talk) 19:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the explanation is as follows:
  • On one hand, the egyptians don't want their country to become a transit country for sudanese refugees fleeing Sudan to Israel via Egypt. Why don't the egyptians want this? Because a lot of the refugees can't finish their exhaustive journey; they remain in Egypt, and become a socio-economical burden in the transit country.
  • On the other hand, the egyptians think that - frightening the refugees at the egyptian-israeli border - is the most effective way for making the refugees realize that their journey to Israel via Egypt is too risky, thus (hopefully) making the refugees remain in Sudan - rather than use Egypt as a transit country for reaching Israel.
HOOTmag (talk) 08:15, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that seems quite immoral to me. I can understand why maybe they would have the right to stop people entering Egypt, but to shoot people trying to get out seems totally unjustified. Reminds me of Pharaoh trying to prevent the Israelite slaves from escaping Egypt to the promised land! Eric Kvaalen (talk) 07:29, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't represent here the egyptians, nor do I intend to determine whether the egyptians' actions are moral or justified. Moral or not, justified or not, the egyptains don't care about this. They care more about the socio-economical burden caused by the refugees who have decided to enter Egypt for reaching Israel but can't finish their exhaustive journey and remain in the transit country. You've asked: "why do the egyptians do this". The answer is: they think that what they do is the most effective way for making the refugees (who are still in Sudan) realize that their plan to reach Israel via Egypt is too risky. Regardless of moral considerations, the egyptians hope that - by shooting the refugees at the israeli border - the other refugees stay in Sudan. For more information, listen to what the UN representative explains here, from the moment 1:05 untill the moment 1:21. HOOTmag (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bias in the story[edit]

It is so shallow not to think that Egypt was cooperating with the Israeli government to prevent any refugees. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 09:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Israel has granted amnesty and temporary citizenship to some refugees but financially-speaking Palestinians have become priority regardless of need. Egypt, on the hand hand, has a preference for deportation back to the host country and has made strong attempts to isolate Sudanese who remain - which is very consistent with their treatment of ethnic, religious, and sexual minorities. Wikifan12345 (talk) 10:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rufugees Vs Migrant[edit]

I believe this article should discuss the Sudanese in Egypt in general , such as inter-marriage, four freedom, early immigration through the history , public figures such as president Mohamed Najib, Anwar Al-Sadat ..etc , also it should make distinction and update the numbers after secession of South Sudan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.49.154.1 (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This needs to be revised or removed completely[edit]

"pitted black African separatists" and "Christians" against a "Sudanese government run by Muslim, Arabic-speaking northerners who had tried to impose Islamic law on the country."


Complete nonsensical oversimplification of a very complicated multi ethnic/multi religious conflict.

someone should tell that Darfuri Muslims they are Christian separatists, until then, remove this drivel.

--Savakk (talk) 04:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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References outdated[edit]

A lot of the references in this post are outdated. For instance: Information about the number of Sudanese living in Cairo (between 750,000 and 4 million) was published over 10 years ago. Because politically so much has happened since then, I do not know if they are relevant any more. Rooster1990 (talk) 10:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Rooster1990[reply]

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