Talk:The Eternal Zero (film)

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English Title[edit]

also released as "The Fighter Pilot": http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Fighter-Pilot-Junichi-Okada/dp/B00TOED3KW

is this a UK-only title? or title of the DUBBED version only? or the 2015 TV VERSION as opposed to the 2013 FILM?

amazon indeed has copies under "Eternal Zero" (also), so what's the diff?

http://www.amazon.com/Eternal-Region-English-Subtitled-Japanese/dp/B00N8KYA64

someone who knows needs to correct the article and put a disambig under "figher pilot" etc. 209.172.23.108 (talk) 03:49, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

recently reverted edit[edit]

This is the first sentence i removed "Critics have accused the film of misrepresenting Kamikaze pilots", the articles linked as a source covers 11 movies only giving a couple sentences to each, no critics were named at all, this statement therefore is unconfirmable, given how absolutely no source in the article mentions any critics making that claim, it simply is not supported and should be removed. The second sentence (supported by the second source) "They argued that instead of the pilots being willing to sacrifice themselves for Japan as depicted in the film, these pilots were actually forced to take part in these suicide missions" this comes from a historian, Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney, the only problem is she wasn't talking about the movie at all but about a set of documents from kamikaze pilots submitted to UNESCO for inclusion in its “Memory of the World” register of important papers and manuscripts. Again the person quoted in the source whose remarks are then written in the wiki article was not talking about this film at all, she made absolutely zero comments on this film, if she even knows about it. The article spends a roughly equal amount of text on both the movie and the documents, her comments were strictly about these documents and not the film. I hope this adequately explained my reasoning. Emolication (talk) 01:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Emolication: Here's what the second source says: "Both the film and the collection of documents misrepresent the pilots. The right wing seeks to present them as willing fighters who died heroically for their country.... But Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney, a historian, says most recruits were in fact forced to volunteer."

To me, it looks like the source supports the sentence that you removed, even though Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney is not technically referring to the movie. M.Bitton (talk) 01:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The movie does make an allusion to some pilots being drafted by force instead of volunteering for the program, this article states: "the film even makes the controversial disclosure that tokkotai (kamikaze pilots) were sometimes drafted by force". This contradicts what the other article says completely. Given the fact that the person quoted to provide proof for the claim that the film misrepresents kamikaze, was not at all talking about the film, i think it is inappropriate to leave it in the article, especially when that claim itself is based seemingly on a misrepresentation of the film itself. Emolication (talk) 18:16, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article focus[edit]

This article covers the subject as if it was originally a film, whereas it was actually a novel first. To rectify that, if the original is notable, this page should be moved to "Title (film)", or the article revised to cover all media properly. Opencooper (talk) 19:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]