Talk:Thersites

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General Concerns[edit]

There is a lot of POV stuff in this article, along with a fair amount of unsourced assertions. Needs to be cleaned up. --R.scipio (talk) 22:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article seems weird and perhaps POV issues are ruining it. For instance, I've read many translations of the Iliad, and only on this Wiki article have I ever seen the passage featuring Theristes not actually have Odysseus beat him up. In this one, for some very odd reason, it says that Odysseus only threatens Theristes. Did you find a bowdlerized version of the story somewhere? If we continue with this version, will we find that Agamemnon stole Achilles' "secretary"??? What the duce is going on here??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.173.101.236 (talk) 01:29, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to read it in detail at the moment, but it seems like the start of an excellent article. You need to expand the Lucian reference. Ver. Hist. 2.20.22, oh, and 12 other places! I'll leave that up to you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.109.255 (talk) 10:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Murder of Thersites[edit]

The reason the murder of Thersites by Achilles as described in this article is not consistent with the reason given in the Wiki article on Penthesilea linked to by this article is not explained. I am not a specialist in this area but think that a recognition of different traditions for his murder need to be cited. William Rubel (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to add the reference to another tradition of his murder as suggested by the scene painted on an amphora at the Bostom Museum of Fine Arts. The reference to this source follows: The Death of Thersites on an Apulian Amphora in the Boston Museum of Fine Arts James M. Paton, American Journal of Archaeology , Vol. 12, No. 4 (Oct. - Dec., 1908), pp. 406-416 The article is available through JSTOR.

The amphora painter seems to draw on a different tradition entirely. Paton postulates that Thersites was killed by Achilles as he was attempting to steal a golden vessel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by William Rubel (talk • contribs) 18:10, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shakespeare and Thersites[edit]

In addition to putting Thersites into TROILUS AND CRESSIDA, Shakespeare also used his reputation to make an effective satirical point in CYMBELINE: "Thersites' body is as good as Ajax's, when neither is alive." CharlesTheBold (talk) 01:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]