Talk:Twenty-Eight Mansions

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circular definition

Talk about a circular definition: "Twenty-eight mansions (Chinese: 二十八宿; Hanyu Pinyin: Èr Shí Bā Xiù) are 28 mansions in Chinese astronomy." Twenty-eight mansions are twenty-eight mansions... How informative. Would someone care to explain what a "mansion" is? Bueller 007 16:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image

I think the image should be reverse(top-below) according to Chinese tradition. see Bagua.--Keyi 00:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the image shows the "white tiger" on the right, which contradicts the description and runs counter to convention of placing the West on the right. Matttoothman (talk) 20:37, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doubt about order, or: why Spring -> Winter -> Fall -> Summer ?

Why "Spring -> Winter -> Fall -> Summer" and not "Spring -> Summer -> Fall -> Winter" ? I think this order (of Seasons / Directions / Elements / Four Symbols) is inconsistent with chinese philosophy.

Thus not:

Azure Dragon of the East (東方青龍) - Spring - Element: Wood
~~Black Tortoise of the North (北方玄武) - Winter - Element: Water~~
White Tiger of the West (西方白虎) - Autumn - Element: Metal
~~Vermilion Bird of the South (南方朱雀) - Summer - Element: Fire~~

but:

Azure Dragon of the East (東方青龍) - Spring - Element: Wood
Vermilion Bird of the South (南方朱雀) - Summer - Element: Fire
White Tiger of the West (西方白虎) - Autumn - Element: Metal
Black Tortoise of the North (北方玄武) - Winter - Element: Water

Besides, this will be the natural order of the...

Seasons: Spring -> Summer -> Fall -> Winter
Directions of the sun: East -> South -> West -> North
Elements: Wood -> Fire -> [Earth] -> Metal -> Water
Four Symbols: Azure Dragon - Vermilion Bird - White Tiger - Black Tortoise

See also http://www.chinapage.com/astronomy/syho.html, especially the animated gif http://www.chinapage.com/astronomy/syho_files/mansions.gif or this Tong-Shu-Lunar-Mansion-Diagram http://www.fengshui-magazine.com/tongshu.htm (there is always the South-Red Bird after the East-Azure Dragon) --46.115.39.10 (talk) 15:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, in your linked screenshot you can see, reading direction is from right to left: 1-28 = East-North-West-South = Green Dragon - Black Tortoise - Red Bird - White Tiger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.247.253.6 (talk) 04:32, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Origin

When was this system created? The article only writes in the past, without a hint of the date of origin of the system. CielProfond (talk) 01:19, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]