Talk:Videodance

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Merge with dance for camera[edit]

Dance for camera is another name for Videodance. One could be redirected to the other. The information on the Dance for Camera page however would be best merged with Ballet or 20th century concert dance because it is a list of recordings of notable live performances mostly of ballet companies. Dance for Camera and Videodance are concerned with dance choreographed specifically for the screen, not recordings of live performances. Movetheframe 02:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with dance film[edit]

Both articles dance film and videodance appear to discuss the same thing. Paul foord (talk) 06:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't merge with Dance film[edit]

These are actually two different things. a "dance film" documents an already existing stage performance. A "videodance" is an original choreography made for the camera and often it's impossible to put it on stage. Think: a filmed stage play vs. a motion picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oakwilde (talk • contribs) 01:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oak, the Dance film article states that dance film is either as you describe "or the creation of choreography that can only exist in the medium of film or video." If you can provide a realiable source, could you please correct the dance film article, which, in your opinion, sounds outright wrong. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 00:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your requested reliable source is still not provided (prolly cuz it doesn't exist) evidently "dance film" is not some exclusive term only used for documenting preexisting stage performances. --Loginnigol (talk) 21:26, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifying Categories[edit]

The ongoing profusion of words to describe this artform reflects its experimental and evolving nature. However, broadly speaking, it could be said there are several different overall categories:

FORMAL

1) Screen documentation of a dance originally created for the stage. This area aims for a faithful adaptation of the original choreography in the screen medium. It can sit on the spectrum from more purely a documentation to more of an artistic re-interpretation.

2) Creation of a screendance work in which the choreography only exists in a screen medium.

AESTHETIC

Dr Karen Pearlman in an article for Realtime [1] asks the all important question: “Is dance on screen a dance art, a cinema art or a visual art?” She continues:

"This question ultimately produced the critical framework being sought by the [American Dance Festival's Screendance: The State of the Art] conference. Animated discussions between myself, [Douglas] Rosenberg, [Ala] Kovgan, [Katrina] McPherson, [Richard James] Allen, Professor Ellen Bromberg of the University of Utah, the conference “Respondent”, dance film producer and chair of South East Dance, Bob Lockyer, and the formal and informal contributions of all attendees, lead to a diagram of 3 overlapping disciplines: dance, cinema, and visual art. Unlike the typical result of these models, it was determined that the ‘ideal’ screendance production was not necessarily a mix of all 3. Rather, each approach and each overlap provided a way of comprehending a given work:

"A dance on screen which prioritises dance as its central discipline will foreground the composition and exhibition of the danced movement.

"A dancefilm that is working in the overlapping areas of cinema and dance will prioritise the directorial vision and emphasise the collaborative coordination of all of the elements of cinematic production from script to mise-en-scéne to sound mix.

"A video dance that is based in the thinking of a video art maker, a performance art maker or a visual artist will have its effect through techniques, schools, theories and premises of those disciplines."

This appears to be the most cogent model so far put forward for the scope of this artform. Following this model, one united entry, with links from other keywords, might be most appropriate, with space for different areas within it.

Mediateyes (talk) 17:14, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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