Template:Did you know nominations/Subtle is the Lord

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Subtle is the Lord

Abraham Pais

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... that in 1967 Albert Einstein expressed a desire to be remembered for what and how he thinks and not his acts or suffering, a request unfulfilled in his biographies prior to Abraham Pais' (pictured) 1983 book? Source: Timothy Ferris, New York Times What and how we thought
- ALT1:... that Abraham Pais' (pictured) 1982 biography of Albert Einstein was the first to highlight Einstein's scientific contributions over his personal life? Source: Timothy Ferris, New York Times What and how we thought

Reviewed: Exempt with 1 credit, 1 pending, and 1 other not yet reviewed

Created by Footlessmouse (talk). Self-nominated at 05:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC).

~~I withdraw, but am not sure how I was supposed to do that, I appologize for wasting anyone's time. Footlessmouse (talk) 09:27, 22 November 2020 (UTC)~~Footlessmouse (talk) 21:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

~~Withdrawn by nominator. Yoninah (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2020 (UTC)~~ Let's continue with this. Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Yoninah. I am open to suggestions on this hook and will continue looking for alternatives on my own as well. Footlessmouse (talk) 21:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Alt2: ... that the 1982 biography Subtle is the Lord by Abraham Pais (pictured) was the first full-scale exposition of Albert Einstein's scientific contributions? "The literature on Einstein is enormous. Yet up to now someone trying to find out what Einstein actually did during his creative scientific lifetime (1900—1955) faced a choice between reading one or more popularizations of limited scope (and often even more limited depth) and trying to read and digest the almost 300 scientific papers he produced. Now at last one can enthusiastically recommend a third course: read this book..." Review on JSTOR by John Stachel

This article was created the day before the self-nomination and is fairly long and well sourced. Citation are present throughout and no paragraph is unsourced. I don't see any use of that 1967 bit from ALT0, but I do otherwise see that Einstein made that comment. ALT2, I'm not seeing "first full-scale exposition" supported in the text and would need to be added to the article somewhere. ALT1 I do see inline supported by a source. QPQ review not required as the nominator has less than five DYKs, but is encouraged nonetheless. ALT1 good to go. ALT0 is fine if "1967" is added to the article or removed from the hook. ALT2 may need to be better integrated into the article. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:37, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: Thank you! I stuck ALT0 when recommended by another editor. I also made a mistake there, he was 67 years old, not in 1967, I added that to the article even though we don't expect to use it. I also integrated the statement from ALT2 in a way I think works well. I personally slightly prefer ALT2 to ALT1, but am fine with either. Yes, I've been slacking off with reviews, I will start working on them again today. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 18:18, 29 November 2020 (UTC)