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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. For the discussion page see WT:DYK.

Instructions for nominators

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any autoconfirmed registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing: Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

How to post a new nomination

For a simplified version of these instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
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Please read the following instructions completely before nominating an article. A nomination is not considered complete until all 3 steps of the instructions below are completed.

I.	Create the nomination subpage. In the box below, enter the name of the article you are nominating (replacing YOUR ARTICLE TITLE) and click the button to create your nomination page. (For nominations of multiple articles together, you can write any or all of the article titles here.)
II.	Write the nomination. On that nomination page, fill out the relevant parts of the pre-loaded {{NewDYKnomination}} template. See Template:NewDYKnomination for further information about filling out the template. Please be aware that you do not need to fill out every line of the template; only fill out the lines that are relevant to your nomination. (For instance, if you are not nominating an image to go with your hook, there is no need to enter anything in the |image= line or related lines.) Please watchlist your nomination page or check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed. After filling out the template, save the page.
III.	Post at Template talk:Did you know. After you have created the nomination page, list it at this page by finding the appropriate date and adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} under that date at the top of the section (above all the other nominations, but below the section header and hidden comment). The date to post your nomination under is the date when the article was created or the expansion of the article began, not necessarily today's date. When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary. You can also consider posting this same nomination to the article's talkpage, using the same code.

How to review a nomination

Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

• Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
• Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
• The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
• To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a comment on the page. Please indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

  Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

  If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :*<!--Make first comment here--> showing you where you can put the comment.
• Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions

Backlogged?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several days until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for other editors

How to promote an accepted hook

• In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote. In a separate window, open the prep area you intend to add the hook to.
• Paste the accepted hook and the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) into the prep area. Make sure to follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas.
• In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, replace |passed= with |passed=yes, and for the |monthyear= fill in the month and year under which the nomination was posted (not the current date)—the format for the month and year should be, e.g., February 2012. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a green archive box and stating that the nomination was successful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
• In your edit summary, please indicate which prep area you are moving the hook to.

How to remove a rejected hook

• Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
• In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, replace |passed= with |passed=no, and for the |monthyear= fill in the month and year under which the nomination was posted (not the current date)—the format for the month and year should be, e.g., February 2012. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

• Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
• Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there is usually a link to it in the credits section).
  • View the edit history for that page
  • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
  • Leave a comment explaining that the hook was removed from the queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • If the day title for the section that contained the hook has been removed from this page, restore that section.
• If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
• Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

• Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 24

Johnny Basham

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that European welterweight champion Johnny Basham faced a manslaughter charge after killing an opponent in a boxing match?

• Reviewed: Michael Roemer

Created/expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

*Length checks out; hook checks out (interesting!), neutral article, inline citations; image checks out. 842U (talk) 01:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing and sourcing concerns. Compare for example "his head made violent contact with the boards of the ring" with "Price's head came into violent contact with the boards of the ring", or "he was acquitted by a magistrate who held that the fight had been conducted fairly and sportingly" vs "he was acquitted by the magistrate, who held that the fight had been conducted fairly and sportingly". Relies heavily on sources of questionable reliability and self-published sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

I purposefully kept to close paraphrasing due to the nature of this part of the article, and I did not want to misreport the facts regarding a legal judgement or the reporting of what happened by a journalist. Cites were given for each. Also I believe that the newspaper articles from which the information comes from are prior to 1923. Could you also sate which of the sources are of questionable reliability and self-published sources so they can be addressed. FruitMonkey (talk) 23:13, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

The second of the two sources I quoted above is definitely post-1923, and is also near-verbatim, which is very concerning, as is your statement that you did this deliberately, regardless of your reasoning. BoxRec has been noted as an unreliable source, particularly for historical boxers (as Basham is); the Lee book appears to be self-published ("TL" stands for Tony Lee). Nikkimaria (talk) 23:42, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

See WT:DYK about why this returned after so long. PumpkinSky talk 20:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Interesting that this has been picked up again, but maybe it is worth a shot as it is an article I am proud off. The original problem appears to be down to two major areas. First that I used direct paraphrasing from a source, but that source was cited and I did not wish to change the words as I did not want to interpret incorrectly the journalist of the time. The second issue resolves around questionable sources and self-published sources. I accept the issue that these sources (Boxrec in particular) as being difficult to verify; but in the world of professional boxing the entire sport struggles to find verifiable sources especially before the time of televised fights. The book I used is a self-published source, but it's not a tupenny rag tag affair, but written from a first-hand account of a person who was embedded in the sport and personally knew most of the boxers he wrote about. To the extent that his book is now sourced by preceding books written through acknowledged publishers and university presses. Unless you really knew the difficulties of the history of the sport editors may be more sympathetic to the hard work that is required to bring together these articles. I am not looking for GA status, I do spend considerable time and money in trying to verify these sources and I so do not pick flakey sources to which I 'hope' may be correct. This is a genuine attempt to write as best as I can a valid article about a notable person. I am not attempting to lie, hide or misrepresent. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• I don't see anything about why this was resurrected. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:16, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• It's easier to explain than it is to find the discussion. It was recently discovered that when this hook got pulled out of a prep area or queue, it didn't get returned to the noms page. --Orlady (talk) 19:32, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:23, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Fresh eyes, please? This nom is getting really, really old. --PFHLai (talk) 07:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 15

Western Australia border

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Western Australian border is not as straight as it looks? Created/expanded by KHS-Boab (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The article needs a big cleanup, as noted by the maintenance tag. There's no need for all that underlines, nor a reason to force the table of contents to the right. The section "WA Border - Not as straight as it looks" should be completely rewritten. It is acceptable to mention, in passing, the early astronomical errors and the result (the hook), but not to write a section specifically calling the attention to an otherwise trivial info. And to ask "did you know?" within the article is completely out of place. Cambalachero (talk) 16:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

the blurb is a litle silly and subjective (obviously its not a straight line on the ground). uote something from the history section.Lihaas (talk) 05:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I notice the various edits and clean ups of the article and I like all of the edits made - Thanks to all who have!

Just to explain the hook, On all maps the WA border is shown on all maps as a straight line and defined by the straight line of the 129th east meridian, so even most Australians are not aware of this fact, that the border marked on the ground is not the single straight line, thought of by most as the WA border.

The "underlinings" mentioned by Cambalachero is the way his browser renders the abbreviation html element (eg. <abbr title="Western Australia">WA</abbr>), which helps the way the article reads (instead of the full words the user can view the full words of the title by mouseover), yet can simply read the shortened text. This also gives useful information on all of the abbreviated State names eg. SRC. This gives a functionality (IMHO) that is documented as allowable in [[WP:MOS]] (and <abbr> even works within links! :)

The <abbr> element can be used for abbreviations and acronyms: <abbr title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</abbr> generates HTML. The software that Wikipedia runs on does not support <acronym>, as it is obsolete in the latest version of HTML.

Also See WP:Manual of Style - HTML elements and WP:Manual of Style - Abbreviations

Can Lihaas please elaborate on last comment?

So is further "Clean-up" required before the Cleanup tag is removed? KHS-Boab 19:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I know the Manual of Style, and it says Keep markup simple. HTML tricks may be used sparingly at articles about HTML, as examples, and that's it. You can't use HTML here, not in this manner, you can't underline all acronyms and all distances. And you had not explained yet why force the TOC to the right Cambalachero (talk) 03:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 21

India Art Fair

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that India Art Fair is the world's biggest fair of modern and contemporary Indian art?

• Comment: India Art Summit has been renamed India Art Fair now.

Created/expanded by Noopur28 (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• This article was renamed from India Art Summit to India Art Fair on 21st January and has been expanded more than five-fold since. Content, length and sourcing are fine and the hook is referenced.

The image that accompanied the nomination is not mentioned in the hook and illustrates the event's previous title so I think it should not be used in DYK.Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Close paraphrasing concerns. Compare for example "where a custom-built space measuring 12,000 sq meters was covered by state-of-the-art German tents under the guidance of UK based production consultants 20:20 Events" in the article with "a custom-built space measuring 12,000 sqm, in state-of-the-art German tents under the guidance of UK based production consultants 20:20 Events" in the source. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• I considered whether close paraphrasing might be an issue and did some Google searching of flowery phrases but did not find anything amiss. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Radomsk (Hasidic dynasty), Keser Torah Radomsk

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Radomsk (Hasidic dynasty) • Keser Torah Radomsk )

• ... that the fourth Radomsker Rebbe, founder of a Hasidic yeshiva network in pre-war Poland, paid for the education of over 4,000 students, including staff salaries, food, and student lodging, out of his own pocket?

• Reviewed: James Harbottle Boyd Saqib Saleem
• Comment: Double nomination

Created/expanded by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Maybe shorter is better:
• ALT1: ... that the fourth Rebbe of Radomsk, founder of a network of 36 Hasidic yeshivas in pre-war Poland, paid for the education of over 4,000 students out of his own pocket? Yoninah (talk) 09:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• Review of Radomsk - Date and length look good. Lots of references. Spot-check for close paraphrase done on the four most-used refs, some duplicated three- and four-word phrases, but nothing of note. Very informative, perhaps change/clarify "hasidut" in the third sentence of the lede, not clear to non-Jewish reader. Will try review second article and hook later on, other reviewers feel free to finish this off, though. The Interior (Talk) 19:24, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• I changed "Hasidut" to "dynasty". Yoninah (talk) 18:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 22

Operation Septentrion

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the French military used the "Mikado strategy" during Operation Septentrion in the Uzbin Valley of Afghanistan?

• Comment: I originally contributed this material on 22 January 2012 to the article 2009 in Afghanistan then created the new article soon after. Please also be aware that the key sources are in French.

Created/expanded by Mathew5000 (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Since the article has not been reviewed for DYK nom since its original date of 25 Jan it seems to pass the "new" requirement, even with the original post on 22 Jan with a new article 3 days later it would pass. Length is good. Sourcing is up to par, including that of the hook. However, i just cleaned and reorganised the articleinto section but a few thing sneeds clarification so as not to POV/Synthesis. Also no barerefs , so thats a plus too.Lihaas (talk) 05:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Rabih Mroué

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the works of Beirut-based Rabih Mroué often blur the boundary between theater and the visual arts? Created/expanded by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 00:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• I've now reviewed List of Selena songs. - Jmabel | Talk 00:24, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• Length is good, date is good, the article is adequately cited. I'm checking now for close paraphrasing, etc. Marrante (talk) 11:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

The issue of close paraphrasing seems to be no problem here; instead, the biggest problem with this article is style. It's written like a promotional piece or review and not like a biography. There is a lot of information in the references that can be used to build a biography, even if basic. Have a look at Ahmad Nady for an example of what I mean. Marrante (talk) 12:32, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• I also think the hook is very weak, especially considering all that could be written here. Some would probably need to be backed up in the article first (it's all there in the refs). Here's one idea:

ALT1: ... that the Beirut-based Rabih Mroué had to premiere a piece in Tokyo because it was banned at home?

— Marrante (talk) 13:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not very concerned with whether this is DYK'd or not. I agree that the hook is weak, and would have no problem with an alternate hook. I've worked on the aspects of the article that interest me. If what someone wants is research into other aspects of Mroué's life to expand it, they are, of course, more than welcome to do that work, but I'm currently busy with other stuff. - Jmabel | Talk 15:43, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I added an "External links" section, where I placed a link to an installation of Mouréthat contains biographical material. Because of recent discussions about DYK, I am not as sure about DYK rules and style as I once was. Perhaps someone else can read through this and see if the style is okay or not. If it's okay, this nom is ready to go. Marrante (talk) 01:14, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The reviewer asked for a second pair of eyes on this. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

ESPN Rise boys' high school basketball All-American

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the ESPN Rise boys' high school basketball All-American team was formerly known as the EA Sports All-American team?

• Reviewed: 3rd of 5 QPQ credits against Template:Did you know nominations/Echat

Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• Newness, length, sourcing etc. fine. The hook needs a reference, and I think the position of the apostrophe in "boy's" should be changed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:56, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
  • now "s'" rather than "'s".--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:43, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
    • (ALT1)... that the ESPN Rise boys' high school basketball All-American team is part of a history of high school All-American basketball teams that goes back to Chuck Taylor's 1949 selections?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:07, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

List of Selena songs

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Selena's brother A.B. Quintanilla III wrote most of her songs? Created/expanded by AJona1992 (talk). Self nom at 05:06, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• At the very least, needs a major copyedit. "She had wrote the songs", "had became", and a lot of technically possible but odd choices of verb tenses. - Jmabel | Talk 00:23, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
  • And where could I get a user who will be willing to c/e the article? Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 00:24, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
    • I just took a shot at copyediting it myself; someone else should review. At least one passage remains unclear: "The songs were on the independent LP records Selena y Los Dinos (1984), Alpha (1986), Muñequito de Trapo (1987), And the Winner Is... (1987), Preciosa (1988) and Dulce Amor (1988). The other songs were on her studio albums..." The referents of "The songs" and "The other songs" are unclear. What is the distinction? - Jmabel | Talk 07:29, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 23

Zainal Mustafa

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the death of Zainal Mustafa was in 1944, but his family knew it 26 years later?

• Comment: It's my second nomination. I don't need to do a review, right? αδζ ψακ φρψερ 05:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Redyka94 (talk) and Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• (Not a review) Umm... I don't think so. However, the rules seem to be having 5 DYK make credits, and not 5 self-nominations. I can vouch for Redyka that this is only his second DYK self-nomination, after Gugun Blues Shelter. As for the hook, how about ALT1 ... that although National Hero of Indonesia Zainal Mustafa died in 1944, his family only learned about it 26 years later? Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oh, it is counted based on credit, not nomination? I understand. ALT 1 is better IMHO. Sorry for bad grammar in the main hook. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 10:30, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• WP:DYK says "New nominators (those with fewer than five DYK credits) are exempt from this review requirement, as is the nomination of another editor's article. For help in learning the reviewing process, see the reviewers' guide." I have no qualms about doing a review for you though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I might expand this a bit as well. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for the info. I'll read and learn it later. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 11:54, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• I've finished my expansion (quite an interesting hero, I must say). Do you mind if I add myself as co-nominator? Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• No, I don't mind. I should ask you first before nominating it. αδζ ψακ φρψερ 09:47, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oh, if you want to do something independently no problem. Just let me know if you want a copyedit. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:55, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: List of Detroit Wolverines Opening Day starting pitchers
• Still needs a review. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:55, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Zainal Mustafa died in 1944, yet his family did not learn of it until 26 years later?
• Date and length check out, and AGF on the hook and sources. Article needed a serious copyedit, as did the hook (see ALT1). I'm not sure on the neutrality of the article, given the way the article reads and the highly political and religious nature of his life. If there is someone out there with better knowledge of Indonesian history, a second opinion would be good. – VisionHolder « talk » 10:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• I've given it yet another copyedit. Assuming you mean the "accused of being crazy and heading a cult" as being non-neutral, here it is (hopefully you can see it in Snippet view) in an English book. This one (page 13 if the link isn't working) says the Japanese considered him a "dangerous fanatic". If you are opposed to the statement that he was tortured, it is in several Indonesian sources and also not an uncommon thing in Japanese-occupied areas during World War II. Without more specific information as to what you consider POV, I cannot address it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• I'm not trying to criticize the subject of the article, nor the author. Rebels, religious fanatics, and martyrs often have strongly biased literature that surrounds them. Without a better knowledge of Indonesian history, I wanted to make sure that the topic was being discussed in a non-biased fashion. On top of that, prior to the copyedits, the article read the way a fan would talk about an idol. Maybe it was just the conversational English (as opposed to professional prose) coupled with the topic that set off a red flag in my mind. I'm don't really think anything needs to be changed. The article is interesting, very well referenced, and pretty much meets all the requirements. I just want someone else—preferably with a background in Indonesian history—to quickly glance over the article to ensure that it's not biased. Otherwise, I have no problems with the mention of torture or anything like that. – VisionHolder « talk » 07:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• No doubt... and some people can come with even wilder ideas. I've requested a second opinion at WT:DYK, although finding another editor familiar with both DYK rules and Indonesian history will be difficult. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:18, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• I think if one of the admins looks over the article before dropping it in the queue, it should be fine. I agree—finding someone with a good background in Indonesian history would be difficult. But there's no harm in asking... especially in a community as diverse as Wikipedia. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:12, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Agreed... hopefully someone responds. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:14, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Jennifer Worth

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that British midwife and bestselling author Jennifer Worth criticized Mike Leigh's 2004 film Vera Drake for depicting an "invariably fatal" method of abortion as quick and painless for women? Created/expanded by Dawkeye (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 04:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• Size, hook size (191 characters) and sourcing all check out. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Abolition of serfdom in Poland

I'm concerned that some of the phrasing in this article might be too close to that used by this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Let me give that a closer look. – Muboshgu (talk)

Hill Cumorah Pageant

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in 1997, Donny Osmond left his starring role in Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat to play the role of a Book of Mormon prophet in the Hill Cumorah Pageant? Created/expanded by Eustress (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• Date, length, sourcing and hook OK. No article has been reviewed but it states on Eustress' user page that he/she has had 4 DYKs so I'll accept that. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm concerned that the phrasing used by this article may be too close to that of this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:14, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Please list specific issues so they can be addressed. —Eustress ^talk 23:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Side-by-side comparison, with similarities bolded:

• "which was convened annually to coincide with the July 24th Pioneer Day celebration marking the day when Brigham Young first entered the Salt Lake Valley in 1847. Mission president B. H. Roberts and a group of missionaries traveled from New York City to the newly acquired Smith Family Farm to celebrate Pioneer Day. Part of that celebration included the acting out of scenes from the Book of Mormon and LDS Church history"
• "which was convened annually to coincide with the July 24th Pioneer Day celebration marking the day when Brigham Young first entered the Salt Lake Valley in 1847. The tradition of the Cumorah Conference was begun in the early 1920s when the mission president, B. H. Roberts, and a group of missionaries traveled from New York City to the newly acquired Smith Family Farm to celebrate Pioneer Day. Part of that celebration included the acting out of scenes from the Book of Mormon and church history."
• "remarked that it was time to phase out missionaries' participation in the pageant. As a result, the cast has since consisted entirely of regular church members"
• "He remarked that it was time to phase out missionaries' participation in the pageant. As a result, the cast now consists entirely of church members"
• "Orson Scott Card was assigned the responsibility to write the new script that would become the foundation for all other artistic decisions. He was instructed to make the script" (the next part is directly quoted, so omitted here)
• "Orson Scott Card was assigned the responsibility to write the new script that would become the foundation for all other artistic decisions. He was instructed to make the script"

These are only the most obvious examples; there are others that are better but still inadequately paraphrased. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I believe I've now addressed your concerns. —Eustress ^talk 04:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Re-review needed. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 24

Mani Square

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Mani Square has a total area of more than 7,10,000 sq. feet (0.71 million)? Created/expanded by Dipankan001 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

The article only has 1001 characters according to my script. Pi (Talk to me! ) 13:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I have expanded it to some above 1,550 characters. Dipankan ^{In the woods?} 15:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• The article meets the minimum length criterion now, but only because it includes nonencyclopedic information -- such as the operating hours of the food court, as well as some superfluous verbiage -- such as the sentence clause that says "....including ... to name a few" (it is redundant to say "to name a few" after saying "including"). Also, the sources are not strong: they including advertisements, other web pages produced by the subject of the article, and an online review site where anyone can post content. Importantly, I could not find the hook fact in the online source cited for that sentence in the article.

For this large and modern mall, I would expect that there have been some newspaper or magazine articles that describe it and that could be cited in the article. Additional content and additional sources are needed to make this suitable for DYK. --Orlady (talk) 05:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

How can this be that a website doesn't have any advertising banners? I mean you can do it without putting a banner, but most of the people nowadays do. There are references which include the Yellowpages, Kolkatamalls.com, and others. Any more doubt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dipankan001 (talk • contribs)

The issue is not the fact that the webpages have advertising, but rather that the content of the webpages appears to have been created for purposes of promotion by the mall operator or an affiliate of the mall operator, or else by anonymous internet users. In general, websites like yellowpages and kolkatamalls.com are not considered to be reliable sources. Are there any other sources that could be used to augment the information in the article? --Orlady (talk) 20:58, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, I believe that other sources exist. I searched Google News Archives for "Mani Square" and I found several results. Particularly good are: [1], [2], [3]. Other sources that might be helpful include: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. --Orlady (talk) 21:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much Orlady- I've added the references to the article assuming good faith. Dipankan ^{In the woods?} 05:31, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• Please stop using the tick symbols when you have done something. If you want to indicate that you've done it, use {{DYK?again}}. Otherwise it makes it seem as if your nomination has been fully reviewed, when it has not. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Salix arbusculoides, Salix richardsonii, Salix brachycarpa, Salix glauca, Salix hastata, Salix pulchra

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Salix arbusculoides • Salix richardsonii • Salix brachycarpa • Salix glauca • Salix hastata • Salix pulchra )

• ... that the peachleaf willow was used in traditional Eskimo medicine to treat skin sores and watery eyes? Created/expanded by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1 (6x hook)... that various willows, such as peachleaf willow, barren-ground willow, glaucous willow, Halberd willow, diamondleaf willow and woolly willow, are used by Native Americans for medicinal purposes, basket weaving, to make bows and arrows, and for building animal traps? Created/expanded by IceCreamAntisocial (talk) and Rcej (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) 07:07, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
• ALT2 (6x hook) ... that Native Americans used various parts of willow shrubs including the woolly, peachleaf, barren-ground, white, diamondleaf, and Halberd willow (pictured) to make medicines, weapons and animal traps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcej (talk • contribs) 08:09, 2012 January 27 (UTC)

• I prefer Rcej's ALT2. --PFHLai (talk) 07:14, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Vatapi

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Pallava ruler Narasimhavarman I assumed the title "Vatapi-kondan" or "taker of Vatapi" after his victory in the Battle of Vatapi against the Chalukya king Pulakesin II in 642? Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Nominator needs to add a QPQ review as they have more than 5 DYK credits. Miyagawa (talk) 13:35, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

• Still needs a QPQ review. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:04, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
• everything checks out. Accepting off-line sources in good faith. Lord Roem (talk) 20:35, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Still needs a QPQ review, as indicated above. This is per DYK Rule #5. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
    • (facepalm) Wow, I didn't see that. You're right. QPQ needed. Lord Roem (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 25

Federal Web Managers Council

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Federal Web Managers Council is the steering committee for the Web Content Managers Forum, an ad hoc community of more than 2,000 U.S. government Web and New Media professionals?

• ALT1:... that the Federal Web Managers Council manages the HowTo.gov website to help government workers deliver a better customer experience to citizens?

Created/expanded by Cirrus Editor (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

• very concerned with close paraphrasing of some of these sources. On first glance, seems in some places a direct copy. Lord Roem (talk) 20:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you much! I placed a set of new quotation marks, added references where I think appropriate, added a couple of new outbound links for the .gov reform effort, and edited throughout to clarify meaning.Cirrus Editor (talk) 14:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Gregory P. McGuckin

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that New Jersey Republican Gregory P. McGuckin is the son of the first directly elected mayor of Brick Township, New Jersey? Created/expanded by Offenbach (talk). Nominated by Wilhelmina Will (talk) at 05:01, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Emiliodonta

• Age, length OK. No close paraphrasing seen. Most of the references are primary sources, but there are a few secondary sources for this newly-elected politician. The hook ref, however, is based on a Facebook page. Could you provide a secondary reference for this statement, or perhaps another hook based on a secondary reference? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26

Yndamiro Restano Díaz

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Cuban journalist Yndamiro Restano Díaz was reportedly released from prison at the request of Danielle Mitterand, the wife of the former President of France?

• Reviewed: Clifford Allison

Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• substantial, well sourced, we need to know more of those! Tweaked "a" to "the", it's not that long ago, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm concerned that the phrasings used by this article may be too close to those used by sources. Compare for example "He was tried together with María Elena Aparicio, a museum employee said to be MAR's coordinator for Havana" with "He was brought to trial together with María Elena Aparicio, an employee of the Centro Nacional de Conservación y Museología, National Conservation and Museums Centres, said to be the coordinator of MAR for the city of Havana". Nikkimaria (talk) 00:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Do you find this is acceptable: "He was tried together with María Elena Aparicio. She was an employee of the Centro Nacional de Conservación y Museología (National Conservation and Museums Centres) and was regarded as the Havana coordinator of the MAR." ? Actually I would have to find out now if she still "is" (where I assumed "was"), and think it's less elegant. Help! (You are aware that the author, the voice for Human rights I know on WP, left us, and I try to at least finish what he started?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

It is less elegant and does not solve the problem, unfortunately. Perhaps if you split up the facts or otherwise incorporated them with material from other sources? Nikkimaria (talk) 14:52, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Not now. I have so many things on my agenda, am not familiar with the topic, not comfortable enough in English, - I am almost ready to ask if you can do it. Or wait, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Um, before Gerda commented above, I had edited the subject sentence after reading several sources. It now reads "Standing trial with him was María Elena Aparicio, a museum employee and fellow MAR member who was said to be MAR's coordinator for Havana." It's unclear from the sources who "said" she was the MAR coordinator for Havana; my guess is that it was the prosecutors, but guessing isn't valid in Wikipedia. I made some additional edits, and Moonriddengirl edited some passages that I didn't address. At this point, the article is probably in pretty good shape, but it needs to be looked at again. --Orlady (talk) 06:00, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Sri Lanka Eye Donation Society

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Sri Lanka Eye Donation Society has donated over 60,000 corneas for transplantation in 57 countries, including those of the late President of Sri Lanka, J. R. Jayewardene? Created/expanded by Astronomyinertia (talk). Self nom at 10:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• This is an interesting article with reliable sources. Age, length OK. Hook ref verified. I tweaked the hook to make it tighter. There are, however, a few statements that need citations. Also, please see the hidden note in the Operation section noting that different figures are provided in different articles. Is this your first DYK nomination? It's a good one. Best, Yoninah (talk) 16:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you for taking care of the refs. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks a bunch for the work you have done! Yes, this is my first DYK nomination, and it is pleasing to see the article has been reviewed positively:) I worked on several issues you have mentioned, which were worthwhile pointing out. Thanks again... Astronomyinertia (talk) 17:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm concerned that some of the phrasing in this article might be too close to that used by sources. For example, "to avoid damaging the thin layer of cells on the back that pump water away to keep it clear" in the article is verbatim from this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:16, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• I have edited the article to address your concern. See whether anything else needs to be done. Astronomyinertia (talk) 14:56, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

History of Currencies used in Brunei

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that stars were once used as a currency in Brunei? Created/expanded by Hallows AG (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• The page has a merge request on it. The article as is reads like a piece of the main article and lacks a proper lead. Yoninah (talk) 14:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Bobby Chalmers

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Rhodesian soccer captain Bobby Chalmers, a white man, was assisted in his leadership of the mostly black national team by his proficiency in both Ndebele and Shona? Created/expanded by Cliftonian (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• For those readers less familiar with the subject, I think it would be a good idea to link Rhodesia, possibly also white Rhodesian. Manxruler (talk) 09:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• Okay, I've done so. I think perhaps we should keep this one back for a while until I have written more of the article anyway, it isn't finished yet. —Cliftonian (talk) 10:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 27

Daria Khaltourina

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that according to Russian sociologist Daria Khaltourina (pictured), Protestantism influenced positively the capitalist development of social systems through the promotion of literacy and Bible reading? Created/expanded by Phanerozoic (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Nominator needs to review another article (QPQ review). Lord Roem (talk) 00:16, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I thought QPQ reviews are only required for self-noms? --PFHLai (talk) 02:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

2000 UEFA Cup Final riots

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the 2000 UEFA Cup Final riots lasted just 45 minutes despite being reported as lasting for 2 days?

• Alt1 ... that the Battle of Copenhagen involved The Herd uniting members of different British hooligan firms together for a revenge attack?
• Reviewed: Materials Adherence Experiment ‎

Created/expanded by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

• Expansion is OK, references are fine. But I see problems. The first hook is invalid, as I've explained in my edit summary here: the source doesn't bear it out. The second hook is problematic as well. The article right now says that the Herd and the Gooners made those calls, but the source says the Gooners called Leeds fans. The source certainly doesn't name the Herd, and it doesn't name the others as groups--it says "troublemakers who follow Leeds, Chelsea, Glasgow Rangers, Cardiff City and Swansea City". That sentence needs to be struck/changed in the article itself, and the hook as it is now cannot stand.

  I made a number of copyedits, and have another comment as well: the lead needs to be expanded to include the relevant points from the article, beyond just one sentence about the very basic facts such as teams and date. Drmies (talk) 05:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

OK How about this? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 07:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Alt2 ... that the Battle of Copenhagen involved Arsenal fans joining together with Leeds United fans for a revenge attack?

• • But none of the sources (AFAIK--I just looked through references 5 through 9) say that Leeds supporters were involved, only that there was a fear that they might become involved. My question about the lead also still stands. Drmies (talk) 17:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, let's try a different tack. How about this one?

• Alt3 ... that the violence in the 2000 UEFA Cup Final riots almost led to England being thrown out of Euro 2000?

• The source that should support that is this article, which says, "After a weekend of violence in Charleroi and Brussels..." but not Copenhagen, which is mentioned much later on: "Mr Johannson added: 'We cannot forget what happened in Heysel. We cannot ignore the incidents in Istanbul and Copenhagen and what has happened in Charleroi and Brussels.'" In other words, one cannot claim that the Copenhagen riot would have been the efficient cause for such expulsion. My question on the lead still stands, as does my comment about the other groups identified in the article but not in the references. Drmies (talk) 19:48, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll be honest, I'm not that good on elaborating leads beyond the basic facts. Nevertheless, lets just do a basic hook here: The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Alt4 ... that 19 people arrested in the 2000 UEFA Cup Final riots were released without charge but were banned from Denmark.
• Alt5 ... the 2000 UEFA Cup Final riots in Copenhagen, involving fans of Galatasaray and Arsenal, were in part retaliation for the killing of two Leeds fans in Istanbul? Drmies (talk) 16:12, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
• Alt6... that the Battle of Copenhagen involved The Gooners uniting members of different British hooligan firms together for a revenge attack? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Again, that's not supported by the references. Drmies (talk) 18:51, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28

Wouldn't Take Nothing for My Journey Now

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Wouldn't Take Nothing for My Journey Now, Maya Angelou's first book of essays, has been called one of her "wisdom books"? Created/expanded by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self nom at 20:04, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Pineda

• Article is new enough; it meets the minimum length criterion; and it's well-supplied with footnotes. Hook fact checks out. However, the article is mostly about Angelou, in general. It says next to nothing about the book that is supposed to be the subject of the article. It should be possible to supply some more content about the contents and the book's reception by critics and readers. I found several reviews in a search of the Google News archives. Apparently the book made the best-seller lists; that's something else that could become part of the article. --Orlady (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Just so you know that I'm not ignoring you, I'm working on following your suggestions now. Christine (talk) 23:12, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Warren Campbell, 1997 Westar Rules Grand Final, 1980 WAFL Grand Final

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Warren Campbell • 1997 Westar Rules Grand Final • 1980 WAFL Grand Final )

• ... that Warren Campbell is one of three Australian rules footballers in South Fremantle's 1997 Westar Rules Grand Final winning team who had a father or uncle play in South's previous premiership win in the 1980 WAFL Grand Final? Created by The-Pope (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Tom McEwen (politician) The-Pope (talk) 16:12, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Cranberry Creek Archeological District

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Juneau County, Wisconsin, has two ancient American Indian burial mound sites from the Woodland culture on the National Register of Historic Places: Cranberry Creek Archeological District (pictured) and Gee's Slough Mound Group?

• Reviewed: Friedrich von Keller (diplomat)
• Comment: new.

Created/expanded by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 02:58, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... several hundred ancient American Indian burial mounds are found in Cranberry Creek Archeological District (pictured), including effigy mounds of birds, bears, and panthers?

• Please talk to me about this nomination, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 29

Sam (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the winning racehorse and jockey at the 1818 Derby Stakes were both named Sam? (both pictured)

• Comment: Sorry, I am nominating this article a few hours late. May i invoke the Swahili rule, please? Thank you. --PFHLai (talk) 02:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• Article, hook and sources are good. Image was in fact a newly reproduced painting rather than a photographic reproduction, so I've taken the liberty of re-uploading the original and adding a cropped version. Paul_012 (talk) 17:37, 11 February 2012‎ (UTC)

Pan (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that after a close finish at the 1808 Derby Stakes, the owners of the second, third and fourth placed horses all challenged the winner, Pan, to match races?

• Comment: Sorry, I am nominating this article a few hours late. May i invoke the Swahili rule, please? Thank you. --PFHLai (talk) 02:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC) Looks fine I think, I personally don't have a problem with it being a few hours late.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:06, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Ellen Lowell

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Ellen Lowell's son, Dan Stewart was rapidly aged to the point that their portrayers had a one year age gap?

• Comment: Changes to the hook are more than welcome.

Created/expanded by Frickative (talk), Raintheone (talk). Nominated by Raintheone (talk) at 00:53, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Melky Goeslaw

• Age, length OK. Well-referenced; no overt close paraphrasing seen, other than a few words here and there attributed to sources. But the hook is a little confusing for those of us who aren't familiar with the serial. How about:
• ALT1: ... that As The World Turns heroine Ellen Lowell was the first major character in any serial to have an illegitimate child? Yoninah (talk) 22:48, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

I like the alternative hook and prefer it. I did think at the time of submission that original hook could have been improved upon. Thank you for taking the review.Rain the 1 23:21, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

2012 24 Hours of Daytona, John Pew

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: 2012 24 Hours of Daytona • John Pew )

• ... that Grand-Am regulars John Pew and Oswaldo Negri teamed with NASCAR driver A.J. Allmendinger and IndyCar driver Justin Wilson to win the 2012 24 Hours of Daytona endurance race? Created/expanded by Drdisque (talk), Falcadore (talk). Cs-wolves (talk), Johndagys (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 21:29, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Caroline Birley

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Caroline Birley's lifelong love of geology started with stones she collected as a child on family holidays?

• Reviewed: John Stone (footballer)

Created/expanded by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 06:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• Hook verified online, article ready, prose confirmed at 5110 by DYKcheck! Rcej (Robert) – talk 10:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing concerns. Compare for example "In her will, she left the majority of her Mineralogical and Geological collections to the Natural History Museum in London, with instructions that the keepers should select the material they wanted from her collections and then pass the rest to the Manchester Museum. She also wished that her material should be labelled as belonging to the "Caroline Birley Collection"" in the article with "In 1895 she made out a will, leaving the majority of her Mineralogical and Geological collections to the Natural History Museum in London. She instructed that the keepers should select the material they wanted from her collections and then pass the rest to The Manchester University Museum...She also requested that the material was labelled as belonging to the Caroline Birley Collection." Nikkimaria (talk) 16:15, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• I have re-written the offending section - I hope this addresses your concerns. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 21:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you for your willingness to address concerns. However, that was an example only of paraphrasing that seems too close to the source. Furthermore, I'm not sure your edits solved the problem - "with the request that her material should be labelled as belonging to the "Caroline Birley Collection"" is still quite close to "also requested that the material was labelled as belonging to the Caroline Birley Collection". Nikkimaria (talk) 13:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Can you suggest an alternative way of wording which imparts the same information. Some positive, rather than negative assitance, would be helpful. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 13:22, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

For that particular instance, you could instead write "Her will left most of her geological specimens, designated as the "Caroline Birnley Collection", to the London Natural History Museum, with any material not wanted there being given to the Manchester Museum". I'm sure you could think of better constructions. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Lonesomehurt Cabin

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the 1959 Yellowstone earthquake caused Hebgen Lake, near Yellowstone National Park, to recede 22 feet (6.7 m), leaving a wide gravel beach along the lakefront of Lonesomehurst Cabin (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Lorna Kesterson
• Comment: new

Created/expanded by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I've reverted to remove copyvio, see duplication detector, and review article structure similarity. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:13, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I rewrote it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Henry Seymour (secularist)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Henry Seymour was a secularist and anarchist who introduced the Edison Disc record to England in 1913? Created/expanded by Danielhuckfield (talk). Nominated by Sionk (talk) at 18:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• WP:AfC article that checks out on size, date, and policy. Hook checks out with the source and seems interesting enough. I'm not familiar with the nominators, so I'll AGF and assume they are not required to review a DYK nom in order to nominate this. – VisionHolder « talk » 07:03, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Erkki Kourula

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Erkki Kourula (pictured) was the first Finn to be elected as a judge of the International Criminal Court? Created/expanded by Pi (talk). Self nom at 13:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Just a note from me... The hook has the results of the judges election as its source. While the source doesn't explicitly state that he was the first Finn to be elected, note that it states that it was the first election held and that he was the only Finn elected.Pi (Talk to me! ) 13:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
• ALT1: ... that Erkki Kourula (pictured) was among the first judges to be elected to the International Criminal Court?

Articles created/expanded on January 30

Paris (horse), Ditto (horse), Archduke (horse), Sir Harry

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Paris (horse) • Ditto (horse) • Archduke (horse) • Sir Harry )

• ... that the racehorse Sir Peter Teazle, who won in 1787, was the first winner of the Derby Stakes to sire another winning colt of the race: Sir Harry in 1798, Archduke in 1799, Ditto in 1803 and Paris in 1806?

• Comment: A 5x DYK opportunity: Sir Peter also sired Traflagar (horse), who placed second in the 1806 Derby. May I pre-emptively nominate this yet-to-exist horse bio? :-) --PFHLai (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 15:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Theater des Westens

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Berlin's Theater des Westens (pictured) was the stage for dancers Mary Wigman and Anna Pavlova, the premiere of Henze's opera König Hirsch, and the first musical in Germany, My Fair Lady?

• Reviewed: Christopher Werner

Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:43, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• This article is long enough, was created on January 30th and is within policy and the image is appropriately licensed. Some of the references are in German. However, there are not currently inline citations to support all the facts in the proposed hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for looking, I completely forgot to improve this article which came from German WP without a ref and offline sources. I found online sources for some claims and prefer to present those (however true the former probably are):

ALT1:... that Berlin's Theater des Westens (pictured) was the stage for Diaghilev's Ballets Russes with Anna Pavlova, the premiere of Henze's opera König Hirsch, and the premiere in German of My Fair Lady?

Steve Hagen

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that a childhood desire to know truth led Steve Hagen to Zen Buddhism?

• Reviewed: Helen Barry

Created/expanded by SusanLesch (talk). Self nom at 13:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Redstone Historic District (Colorado)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Redstone Historic District (pictured) is a rare example of an intact company town in Colorado?

• ALT1:... that Colorado Fuel and Iron banned residents of its company town at Redstone (pictured in present) from treating each other to drinks to combat drunkenness?
• Reviewed: Nez Perce in Yellowstone Park

Created/expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Dustforce

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Dustforce, an independent video game developed by Hitbox Team, won the $100,000 grand prize in the Third Independent Game Developers Competition at the 2010 GDC Online conference?

• Reviewed:

Created/expanded by Masem (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Harmondsworth Great Barn

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the English poet and heritage campaigner Sir John Betjeman described the 15th century Harmondsworth Great Barn (interior pictured) as the "Cathedral of Middlesex"?

• Reviewed: Boxwood Barkentine
• Comment: Prioryman created the article, and I made a few small changes here and there. Harrison49 (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
• Comment 2: The article was actually created in its first stubby version by Oosoom and was expanded by myself. Prioryman (talk) 21:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Created by Oosoom, expanded by Prioryman (talk). Nominated by Harrison49 (talk) at 20:47, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

• Good to go - nice article Johnbod (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Tipu Sultan (journalist)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that attackers broke the legs and hands of journalist Tipu Sultan after he implicated a Bangladeshi MP in an arson attack on a girls' school?

• Reviewed: Moe Goes from Rags to Riches

Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Fadhila Mubarak

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Fadhila Mubarak was arrested by Bahraini police after approaching a checkpoint with "pro-revolutionary" music playing from her car? Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 12:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed: Luidia clathrata, Mulinia lateralis

Marco Dane

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that actor Gerald Anthony was called the "daytime's answer to Al Pacino" for his portrayal of fictional character Marco Dane on the American soap opera, One Life to Live?

• Comment: Article expanded from redirect

Created/expanded by FrickFrack (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Günther Weisenborn, Adolf Grimme, Greta Kuckhoff

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Günther Weisenborn • Adolf Grimme • Greta Kuckhoff )

• ... that a 1951 report summarizing the investigation of miscarriage of justice pursued by Günther Weisenborn, Adolf Grimme and Greta Kuckhoff, former Red Orchestra members, sided with the Nazi court?

• ALT1:... that the legal case pursued by Günther Weisenborn, Adolf Grimme and Greta Kuckhoff against the Nazi judge who sentenced them dragged on for more than a decade, only to be dropped by the state's attorney?
• ALT2:... that Red Orchestra members Günther Weisenborn, Adolf Grimme and Greta Kuckhoff were sentenced to death and imprisonment, all survived and became important government officials after World War II?
• Reviewed: Sutton Athletic F.C., The Art of Woo, Gilbert-Sinton Historic District
• Comment: What's the requirement for reviews with multiple noms?

Created/expanded by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• Update: I have just added my third review. Marrante (talk) 08:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 31

The Flower Book (Edward Burne-Jones)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that The Flower Book, an album of watercolors by Edward Burne-Jones (example pictured), does not contain any paintings of flowers?

• Reviewed: Robert Kirk (folklorist)

Created/expanded by Smallbones (talk), PKM (talk). Nominated by PKM (talk) at 18:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps the example picture "Love in a Tangle" might be better if this were to run on Valentine's Day (Feb. 14), though I hope to get a better article for that date if I have the time. Smallbones (talk) 16:00, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I think the ALT image works better at small scale regardless of the date that this runs! - PKM (talk) 17:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I've nominated Love's Messenger under February 6, for Valentine's Day. This one could also work for Valentine's Day (am I allowed to have 2 DYKs on the same date?), but really would work on any date since the word "Flower" is really the only link beside the picture. Smallbones (talk) 04:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Both suggested images are now in the article, so you may choose either one as you like. - PKM (talk) 02:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• I've edited this a little. Nice for Valentine's day, if pic used. Only cropped pics should be run imo. Crop "Love in a Mist"? A bit stronger when small. Johnbod (talk) 21:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Love in a Mist, cropped. - PKM (talk) 18:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Richard Elihu Sloan

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Arizona Territorial Governor Richard Elihu Sloan had the legal authority to make appropriations and levy taxes without legislative approval?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Friele, Conservative Press Association
• Comment: Request hook be scheduled for February 14, 2012 (100th Anniversary of Arizona Statehood). --Allen3 ^talk 01:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 01:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Double Fine Happy Action Theater

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the developers of Double Fine Happy Action Theater incorporated new game behavior in response to watching children play with their augmented reality game?

• Reviewed:

Created/expanded by Masem (talk). Self nom at 18:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Note: I just discovered that the impression some sources gave on this original blurb: "that the developers were able to extend the Kinect tracking support from 2 to 6 players for their augmented reality game, Double Fine Happy Action Theater?" was wrong as confirmed by a more direct source, but I've changed the blurb appropriately. --MASEM (t) 17:30, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Delray Brooks

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Delray Brooks co-founded a professional basketball team? Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• 4th of 5 QPQ credits against Template:Did you know nominations/Echat

West Cornwall Bryophytes

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that West Cornwall Bryophytes is one of only three sites in the British Isles where the rare liverwort Cephaloziella integerrima can be found?

• Reviewed: Gambela People's Liberation Movement

Created/expanded by Zangar (talk). Self nom at 15:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Game Dev Story

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Ron Gilbert, the creator of the Monkey Island video game series, told Wired that he was an addict for the iPhone and Android video game Game Dev Story?

• Reviewed: Musa Muradov

Created/expanded by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Folk Singer

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that guitarist Pat Hare did not play on Folk Singer because of his arrest for the murder of his wife? Created/expanded by GreatOrangePumpkin (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

• I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Ich bin vergnügt mit meinem Glücke, BWV 84

Articles created/expanded on February 1

Coimbatore bypass

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Coimbatore bypass included construction and tolling of a 32.2m bridge (pictured) over the River Noyyal?
  Created/expanded by Rsrikanth05 (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• I forgot to add the image. It's File:Bridge-over-Noyyal-Aathupalam.jpg : ( --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:53, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

2288 characters, images are fine. Hook properly cited. All okay but 2 weeks old article and has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (14 days). So I leave this up to the DYK updater for final review :) -- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 17:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Another possibility is to expand the article by another 1669 characters and move it to January 31 or February 1, since the nomination template was created on February 5 and could have gone under. DYKcheck puts the number of characters on both days at 891, which would require 4455 to meet the 5x expansion rule; there are currently 2786 characters, which is a little over 3x. The article is classified as Start class for India, but Stub class for Highways; the latter would have to be changed to Start. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• The article currently stands at 10824 bytes. Isn't it over 5x ??? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:30, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• No, I'm afraid not. Things like reference citations, pictures, and the infobox are not included. It's not bytes vs. bytes, it's characters in the "prose portion" of the article. Out of those 10824 bytes, 2786 are countable prose characters. But even if we could go by plain bytes, it still wouldn't be 5x: the article was over 3000 bytes at the end of January, so 10824 is also a little over 3x. You can get some expansion by spelling out acronyms, at least the first time, such as "NHAI" and "IVRCL", since a good many readers will have no idea which those are. Still, that's not likely to gain much more than 100 characters; if there's more germane information about a project, such as how long it might take to construct, by all means include it. BlueMoonset (talk) 11:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Aye aye Captain! Will do the expansions. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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• Ready to go :). 3566 characters, is at 5x now, expansion began 71 edits ago on January 29, 2012. Someone please add to preparation area ASAP. Thanks -- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 13:50, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• With all due respect to the original reviewer, it is only at 4x. Although DYcheck goes back ten days, the requirement is expansion "within the past five days" prior to nomination; this is noted above the window when this page is edited. For a February 5 nomination template creation, expansion has to have begun no earlier than January 31, 2012; January 29 is not within the required five-day window. Another 889 characters are needed to make the 5x level (4455 characters in all). BlueMoonset (talk) 16:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Added substantial bits of information to the article. I think it might have reached the target of 899 characters. How do I check? User:Ansumang told me about a tool, but I can't seem to work it out. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:27, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Done, well above 5k characters now. : ) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:44, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Now 6218 characters (998 words), expansion began on February 1. -- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 11:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. This is ready to be published. I'll move it to February 1 on the nominations page; it shouldn't be under January 21. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:03, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm concerned that phrasings and structures used in this article might be too close to those used by sources. Consider for example this source - much of the material cited to it is nearly identical. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:27, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Ansumang and I are working on it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved -- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 05:05, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

BlueMoonset (talk) 06:38, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Ready to be published. -- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 02:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Let's have an independent re-check before sending this to the prep area again. --Orlady (talk) 04:03, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

José Manuel Martín

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Spanish character actor José Manuel Martín has appeared in over 100 film and television productions during his career?

• ALT1:... that Spanish character actor José Manuel Martín starred in one of the earliest Spaghetti Westerns, Savage Guns (1961), and went on to become one of the most prolific villains of the genre?
• ALT2:... that José Manuel Martín, one of the most recognized character actors of Spaghetti Westerns, made his final appearance in the Italo-Western Amigo, Stay Away (1972) in an uncredited role as a peddler?
• Comment: See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Possible nomination for DYK. --PFHLai (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by 72.74.199.46 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)This is actually a self-nom, posted on WT:DYK. --PFHLai (talk) 22:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Call My Name (Third Day song)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the song "Call My Name" by Christian rock band Third Day was covered by country singer Keith Urban? 5x expanded by Toa Nidhiki05 (talk). Self nom at 17:05, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• QPQ credit Template:Did you know nominations/Gustavus (horse)

Jacksonville ROAR

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that rookie cheerleaders from the Jacksonville ROAR earn less than $100 for each Jaguar game?

• Reviewed: Ralph Dewey

Created/expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• Nearly there. New enough. Long enough. Checked for plagiarism. One matter to address is that the title doesn't appear to comply with WP:MOS and would be better placed at Jacksonville Roar.

Regarding the hook, I feel the Jacksonville Business Journal qualifies as a reliable source. The hook is interesting and brilliantly short and is backed up by the citation, but when I went to the link it was page 2 of the article and the cited information is on page 3, so the link should be updated. About the hook, I may be wrong but feel "Jaguars game" would fit better than "Jaguar game", being a game of the Jaguars. QPQ has been completed. Cloudz679 09:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Alan Pearce

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that despite entering York City's team after the start of the 1983–84 season, Alan Pearce became a useful member of the side that won the Fourth Division?

• Reviewed: Heart (Glee)

Created/expanded by Mattythewhite (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Fuahea Semi

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Fuahea Semi, a luger who sought to be the first Tongan at the Winter Olympic Games, successfully pretended to bear the name of a lingerie firm for more than two years?

• Reviewed: Yäsäffiw herb dems

Created/expanded by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

James Herman Robinson

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in the 1930s, James Herman Robinson, who later founded Operation Crossroads Africa, was chased by a lynch mob after encouraging African American churchgoers to vote?

• ALT1:... that James Herman Robinson, the founder of Operation Crossroads Africa, was the grandson of a slave in the American South?
• ALT2:... that James Herman Robinson, the founder of Operation Crossroads Africa, assisted President John F. Kennedy and Sargent Shriver with establishing the Peace Corps?
• Comment: Just in time for Black History Month in the United States! I think the first hook is the best, but I offer two ALTs just in case.

Created/expanded by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 20:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Svetlana Kalinkina

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that an entire print run of Svetlana Kalinkina's newspaper was seized by the Belarusian police?

• Reviewed: Muang Sing

Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Musa Muradov

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that journalist Musa Muradov was once trapped in a basement for 14 days by damage from an artillery shell?

• Reviewed: United States Department of Commerce‎, Keeley Electronics

Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• The online source checks out, looked up the veracity of it too. Very well sourced and a nice well rounded article, well done (also passes DYK check). Nomader (talk) 21:15, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for reviewing. -- Khazar (talk) 21:44, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Removed from mainpage, see this source compared to the structure of the article. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi SG, could you be more specific with your concerns? It's true that the CPJ source on Muradov's life is largely in chronological order, as is the article I compiled on him; I'm not sure what you mean beyond that. Khazar (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Since this problem is throughout your DYKs, see general response here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Somewhere I Have Never Traveled

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that on a small island in the Pacific Ocean, about 10% of the population is totally color blind? Created/expanded by Dcshank (talk). Self nom at 02:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• This hook is more appropriate for Pingelap, which is ineligible for DYK. Please can you come up with a hook that is actually about the film itself (and also incorporates the film title?) Otherwise the article looks fine to me. Mabalu (talk) 12:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Mabalu.  I was in a rush to get it online, then I found out about DYK and the time limit.  If I had finished the article, there would be several good hooks. :- ) DCS 22:58, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• If the hook is the only issue, this is the proper tag, Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 2

Institute of Oriental Manuscripts of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Nova N 176

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Institute of Oriental Manuscripts of the Russian Academy of Sciences • Nova N 176 )

• ... that the only known complete manuscript written in the extinct Khitan language was identified in the collection of the Institute of Oriental Manuscripts, Saint Petersburg in 2010?

• Reviewed: Rhadamanthus (horse), John Bull (horse) & Daedalus (horse)

Created/expanded by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Skyscraper (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Derby-winner Skyscraper was in the direct male line of the Byerley Turk?

• Reviewed: Adriatic Sea

Created/expanded by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 07:10, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that apart from winning the 1789 Epsom Derby, the racehorse Skyscraper also defeated the winner of the Epsom Oaks that year in a separate race at Epsom? --PFHLai (talk) 23:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Reidar Jørgensen

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that botanist Reidar Jørgensen was a national champion in middle distance running? Created/expanded by Oceanh (talk), Geschichte (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 23:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Born Again (Third Day song)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the ballad "Born Again" by the Christian rock band Third Day features vocals from Lacey Mosley of the alternative metal band Flyleaf? Created by Toa Nidhiki05 (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• QPQ credit: Template:Did you know nominations/Teambox

Lourdes Central School, Mangalore

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Lourdes Central School, in Mangalore was established in 1999 to provide Catholic students in order to prepare them for competitive exams? Created/expanded by Veritas77777 (talk), Rcsprinter123 (talk). Nominated by Rcsprinter123 (talk) at 15:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Nosa Igiebor (journalist)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Nosa Igiebor was held incommunicado for six months following his magazine's criticism of Nigerian General Sani Abacha?

• Reviewed: American Writers: A Journey Through History

Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 15:12, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Length, date ok. But the six months is not mentioned in article. Nor is the word 'incomunicado' used in the article. --Soman (talk) 17:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. The IFEX and Amnesty sources explicitly describe him as held incommunicado. The length is slightly trickier; he was arrested 25 December and released 24 June, but I have no article that uses the specific phrase "six months". If you're not comfortable with my math, though, we can always just take "for six months" out of the hook. Thanks for reviewing! Khazar (talk) 17:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing abounds; please review. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:04, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi SG, I'll be glad to try to address your concerns, but "abounds" doesn't give me much of a starting point. Could you give me a few examples of sentences or paragraphs you find of concern here? Khazar (talk) 18:09, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Since this problem is throughout your DYKs, see general response here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Albert Kirchner

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Albert Kirchner, who made many pornographic films, was the first filmmaker to direct a film about the life of Christ?

• Reviewed: Gustav III of Sweden's coffee experiment — Preceding unsigned comment added by SupernovaExplosion (talk • contribs) 17:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by --SupernovaExplosion (talk) 08:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC). Nominated by SupernovaExplosion (talk) at 08:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Howard Marks

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that international cannabis smuggler Howard Marks (pictured) took upon the alias of "Mr. Nice" after he bought a passport off convicted murderer Donald Nice?
• ... that international cannabis smuggler Howard Marks (pictured) was found 'Not Guilty' of a £15 million smuggling operation after convincing the jury that he was working as a spy for MI6? Created/expanded by EchetusXe (talk). Self nom at 12:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 3

British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that members of the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors include United Kingdom's most experienced and successful songwriters like Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney and Elton John (pictured)?

• Comment: Could the picture be included with the DYK. Thanks!

Created/expanded by Pkeets (talk), 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Doug Coldwell (talk) at 13:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Overmyer-Waggoner-Roush Farm-- 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Eager (horse), Colt by Fidget

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Eager (horse) • Colt by Fidget )

• ... that the racehorse Eager was not given the name till the year after winning the 1791 Derby Stakes, whereas the 1797 Derby winner was never officially given a name? Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Pap Saine

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that editor Pap Saine was imprisoned for sedition after criticizing the government response to the murder of Deyda Hydara, his co-editor and childhood friend?

• Reviewed: Belenggu

Created/expanded by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 13:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Edna Clarke Hall

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Edna Clarke Hall's artworks based on Wuthering Heights were first created in response to the emotional stress of her unhappy marriage? Created/expanded by Mabalu (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• I have reviewed the nom for Joseph Clarkson Maddison, but can't see where to add that I've done so... Mabalu (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• I am not certain that the footnoted text as written supports the hook; the text in the article doesn't tie the Wuthering Heights illustrations to stress specifically from her unhappy marriage. How about this ALT hook?

• ... that Edna Clarke Hall's sixteenth-century house inspired the first of her illustrations for Wuthering Heights?

To keep the first hook, you might tweak the text so that the unhappy marriage is called out with the Wuthering Heights reference, and make sure the citation directly supports the connection.

Otherwise length, date, content, and polciy compliance look good. Interesting article. (Note: I tweaked some minor punctuation, etc.) - PKM (talk) 02:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I like the alt. hook, but how about this:

• ... that Edna Clarke Hall's many drawings and prints based on Wuthering Heights reflected the artist's own periods of emotional crisis?

Otherwise, am happy with your suggestion. Mabalu (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• I like this ALT hook, and it checks out with the source. Good to go. - PKM (talk) 02:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I am concerned that some of the phrasing used by this article might be too close to that of this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:50, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

That's actually VERY flattering - When I'm able to check during the week, I will double-check to make sure, but I'm flattered that you think my writing is that good! ;) Mabalu (talk) 01:25, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

We Belong Together (Randy Newman song)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that "We Belong Together" won Academy Award for Best Original Song but was not nominated for Grammy Award for Best Song Written for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media? Created/expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• 5th of 5 QPQ credits against Template:Did you know nominations/Echat

Teambox

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the company Teambox is serving a commercial version, the full software is free licensed and thus can be installed on every web server? Created/expanded by Mabdul (talk), Ilpopu (talk). Nominated by Mabdul (talk) at 15:28, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

• Everything looks fine to me, although the article is very close to the 1,500 character minimum. Toa Nidhiki05 17:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• The article currently has below 1,000 characters (bulleted lists do not count), and a prominent copyedit tag. Many sentences, including the hook, are not grammatical. I am also not entirely sure about the notability of this software. --Pgallert (talk) 23:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Am Abend

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Am Abend, a 1910 German stag film, starts with an act of voyeurism?

• ALT... that Am Abend, a 1910 German film, was one of the earliest pornographic films?

• • ALT1... that Am Abend, one of the earliest pornographic films made in Germany in 1910, starts with an act of voyeurism?

• • • ALT2... that Am Abend, a 1910 German pornographic film and one of the earliest stag films, depicts act of voyeurism and sex in doggy style?

• Reviewed: Gustav III of Sweden's coffee experiment — Preceding unsigned comment added by SupernovaExplosion (talk • contribs) 17:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by SupernovaExplosion (talk). Self nom at 04:23, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Berkeley Robotics and Human Engineering Laboratory

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Berkeley Robotics and Human Engineering Laboratory, managed and operated by University of California, Berkeley, conducts scientific research on design and control of a class of robotic systems worn or operated by humans? Created/expanded by Kondicherry (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 4

1933 Michigan Wolverines football team

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Gerald Ford (pictured) wrote that the campus had "more drunks than ever" as the undefeated 1933 Michigan football team won its second consecutive national championship shortly after beer was legalized?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gerardo Concepción

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Swedish Forn Sed Assembly

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Swedish Asatru Assembly, now the Swedish Forn Sed Assembly, held a blót at the royal mounds at Gamla Uppsala in 2000 to celebrate the Church of Sweden no longer being the state church?

• Comment: Article is currently at AfD; hopefully my expansion will suffice to save it.

Created/expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 6 February 2012 (UTC) And I have now reviewed Eugene Eisenmann Yngvadottir (talk) 20:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Theological College

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Theological College, a Roman Catholic seminary in Washington, D.C., educates seminarians from over thirty dioceses around the world?

• Reviewed: Earl Belcher

Created/expanded by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

White Horse Pagoda, Dunhuang

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the White Horse Pagoda, Dunhuang, was built to commemorate "Tianliu", the white horse of the monk Kumarajiva, which carried Buddhist scriptures all the way from Kucha to Dunhuang in China, c. 384 CE? Created/expanded by John Hill (talk). Self nom at 04:33, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• All good, Johnbod (talk) 15:33, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

International Society for Nanoscale Science, Computation, and Engineering

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the ISNSCE's Tulip Award in DNA Computing was first given in Leiden, whose botanical garden is known as the birthplace of the tulip culture in the Netherlands?

• Reviewed: Gabriel Duvall ‎

Created/expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self nom at 04:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Bradbury Fields

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Liverpool charity Bradbury Fields runs a club for blind people to ride tandem bicycles?

• Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Norwegian_Defence_League

Created by Jonathandeamer (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Jordy Mercer, Matt Hague

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Jordy Mercer • Matt Hague )

• ... that Jordy Mercer and Matt Hague have been teammates in college and the minor leagues since 2008, as both attended Oklahoma State and were drafted by the Pittsburgh Pirates?

• Reviewed: Second credit claimed from Timeless Miracle, Into the Enchanted Chamber, Burning of Francis McIntosh
• Comment: My first double article nomination. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

A Free Ride

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that A Free Ride is considered to be the earliest surviving American hardcore pornographic film?
• ALT... that A Free Ride, considered to be the earliest surviving American hardcore pornographic film, shows troilism and urolagnia?

• Reviewed: Gustav III of Sweden's coffee experiment — Preceding unsigned comment added by SupernovaExplosion (talk • contribs) 17:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by SupernovaExplosion (talk). Self nom at 15:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Slamet Rahardjo

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the chemistry between Slamet Rahardjo and Christine Hakim was selected as the second best in Indonesian cinema?

• ALT1:... that both Slamet Rahardjo and his brother Eros Djarot have directed a film submitted to the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film?
• ALT2:... that films by Slamet Rahardjo and his brother Eros Djarot were submitted for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film a year apart?

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: India at the Asian Games (third of six reviews)

Gustavus (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in 1821, Gustavus (pictured) became the first of four grey horses to ever win the Derby Stakes? Created/expanded by Froggerlaura (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 14:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• Everything checks out; passed. Toa Nidhiki05 17:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Lucas Neff

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the acting career of Raising Hope star Lucas Neff only started when he was mistakenly assigned to his University's performing arts department?

• Reviewed: Women's Cricket World Cup
• Comment: Alt1: ... that Raising Hope creator Greg Garcia created a fake Twitter account and pretended to be actor Lucas Neff as a practical joke?

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 12:49, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Calocedrus huashanensis

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the extinct incense-cedar Calocedrus huashanensis is one of only three conifers found in the Ningming Formation?

• Reviewed: Symphoricarpos oreophilus

Created/expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 09:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Moestopo

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that National Hero of Indonesia Moestopo, by training a dentist, led Indonesian military forces in Surabaya?

• ALT1:... that National Hero of Indonesia Moestopo reportedly told his soldiers to eat cats to improve their night vision and buried the remains in a special heroes' cemetery?
• ALT2:... that National Hero of Indonesia Moestopo established a university for dentistry and reportedly a cemetery for half-eaten cats?
• ALT3:... that National Hero of Indonesia Moestopo convinced his soldiers to use manure-covered bamboo spears and eat cats?
• ALT4:... that, after National Hero of Indonesia Moestopo was arrested by the Japanese occupation forces, he served as their dentist?

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 05:24, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Myanmar at the Asian Games (second of six reviews)

Articles created/expanded on February 5

Piyale Pasha Mosque

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Iznik-tiled lunette panels believed to have been removed from Istanbul's Piyale Pasha Mosque in the 19th century are currently on display in various museums such as the Louvre and the V&A?

• Comment: Sorry, I am nominating this article a day late. May i invoke the Swahili rule, please? Thank you. --PFHLai (talk) 15:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Aa77zz (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 15:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Ecclesia and Synagoga

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that pairs of figures personifying the Church and the Synagogue are found in Christian Medieval art?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Whisker (horse)

Created/expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Picture and article requirements check out. Off-line scholarly sources accepted in good faith. Lord Roem (talk) 21:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Whisker (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the 1815 Derby winner Whisker was described "as near perfection as a horse could be"? Created/expanded by Froggerlaura (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed Potassium antimonyl tartrate

• All ok Johnbod (talk) 03:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• A 5x DYK suggestion for User:Froggerlaura to consider:

• ... that Waxy, sire of the four Epsom Derby-winning colts Pope (1809), Whalebone (1810), Blucher (1814) and Whisker (1815), also produced three fillies that won the Epsom Oaks: Music (1813), Minuet (1815) and Corinne (1818)? --PFHLai (talk) 08:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Russell D. Oliver

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Russ Oliver (pictured), dubbed the "second Red Grange" at age 16, was the fourth University of Michigan athlete to win nine varsity letters in three major sports?

• Reviewed: pending

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Tony Dauksza

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that former American football player Tony Dauksza in 1971 became the first person to traverse the Northwest Passage in anything other than a ship, completing the journey by himself in a canoe?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1953 NBA All-Star Game

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:16, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Needing/Getting

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that OK Go band member Damian Kulash was trained in rally car stunt driving for the making of the music video for "Needing/Getting"? Created/expanded by Masem (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Leptasterias hexactis

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the six-rayed star (pictured) often has to compete with the larger ochre starfish for food?

• Reviewed: Halophila engelmannii

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 11:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• All requirements check out. Picture is fine and citation works. Off-line sources accepted in good faith. Lord Roem (talk) 21:35, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

1953 NBA All-Star Game

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Don Barksdale became the first African American basketball player to play in the NBA All-Star Game after he was selected to play in the 1953 game? Created/expanded by Martin tamb (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Five-fold expansion and newness confirmed. Also appears to comply with core policies. Spot-checking does not reveal unduly close paraphrasing. See duplication detector results here and here. The hook fact is short enough and quite interesting (at least to sports history buffs). The hook fact is also supported by an inline citation to The New York Times. Looks generally good with one exception. You have more than 10 DYKs behind you as shown on your talk page. Accordingly, you are considered an experienced DYK participant must complete a "quid pro quo" review for each new DYK. Once you've done that, leave me a note and I'll pass it through. Cbl62 (talk) 00:03, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Torture during the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that at least five people, including Ali Saqer (pictured) died due to torture during the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising? Created/expanded by Bahraini Activist (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Himara

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Benito Mussolini, admitted that decisive factor in the Italian defeat at the Battle of Himara was the high morale of the Greek troops? Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that following the civil war in Libya, Tuareg fighters for the defeated government became members of the National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad seeking an independent Azawad?

• Comment: Article currently undergoing expansion and sourcing, should be ready in a day or 2. Work is done.

Also reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Septentrion.Lihaas (talk) 04:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by BabyFoot (talk), Lihaas (talk), Roleplayer (talk). Nominated by Lihaas (talk) at 04:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Supercomputer architecture

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Aquasar supercomputer architecture uses the heat it generates to warm a university campus? Created/expanded by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment 1: The links to verify the hook are: HPC Wire July 2, 2010 and CNet May 10, 2010

• Comment 2: The image is of the processor, but is not essential to the DYK item.

• Comment 3: A somewhat technical topic, but I deliberately DYK-ed it because I think it should be noted that Wikipedia does have "scholarly technology content" and the front page DYK is not just about television programs or obscure plant species, etc. History2007 (talk) 22:25, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Lagunas de Montebello National Park. History2007 (talk) 23:05, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Édouard Joseph Dantan

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Édouard Joseph Dantan (pictured) exhibited in the 1869 Salon at the age of 21?

• Reviewed: Ekso Bionics
• Comment: Any ideas for a catchier hook welcome

Created/expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Pachylemur

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Pachylemur (pictured), an extinct giant lemur from Madagascar and close relative of ruffed lemurs, may have lived until as recently as 500 years ago?

• Reviewed: Baleč
• Comment: To verify the source for the hook (rather than AGF), go to Amazon.com, find the cited book, use the "Look inside" feature, and search for "Pachylemur". It should take you directly to page 172. If you scroll through the book, you may not be shown that specific page. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Visionholder (talk), Ucucha (talk), Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Visionholder (talk) at 18:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the name Pachylemur, now used for a type of extinct giant lemur (pictured), was first used as group name of primitive primates once considered intermediate between pachyderms and lemurs?
• ALT2: ... that Pachylemur (pictured), a type of extinct giant lemur from Madagascar, may have swallowed and dispersed seeds larger than 30 millimeters (1.2 in) in diameter?
• ALT3: ... that Pachylemur (pictured) was a type of extinct giant lemur most closely related to ruffed lemurs, but three to four times as large?

Elan SCX

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the first parabolic ski, the Elan SCX, was dismissed as a fad when it was introduced, but today it is considered one of the major breakthroughs in ski design? Created/expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Is there something wrong in the GR of the HOOK? It doesn't seem to flow evenly. I'd be happy for some ALTs. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed Oromay. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Oromay

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the novel Oromay, depicting the Eritrean War, was banned by the Ethiopian government 24 hours after its release?

• Reviewed: [10]

Created/expanded by Soman (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• I have a large number of concerns about this article. Most of the quoted resources have limited information in them, consisting typically of a single paragraph. They are generally pretty thin, not discussing the book so much as the government's response, and doing so as a passing example. Moreover, most disagree with the article's spelling of the name of the book and/or its author. I can't say I'm familiar with the topic, so perhaps these difference are obvious to one who is, but that's just it - for en.wiki it's just those points that need to be clearly explained… and they aren't to my satisfaction. Sorry, thumb's down in its current form. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Transliterations are never an exact science. The 'correct' spelling can only be done in Ge'ez script, all transliterations to Latin script are approximations and subjective. I moved the article from 'Oromai' to 'Oromay' considering that there are four separate syllables in the original. Regarding the referencing, I don't see the problem. The claims made in the article all have backing in third-party references, and the quantity of text in a refence is not a goal in itself. Moreover, there is no MoS requirement that an article must have an indept summary of the plot of a novel. --Soman (talk) 18:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

All of the references I can read are not about the book, they're about Baalu Girma. This also appears to be true for the snippets of the books on Google Books. None of these really talk about the book, it's simply mentioned in passing as the trigger for the events actually being discussed.

These references are fine for a biography of Mr. Girma,but instead used them for the basis of an article on a particular book.

Of course, other reviewers may disagree with this, and I invite others seeing this to join in. It's entirely possible I'm FOS. But even if that's the case, don't you think this is a better HOOK:

…it is widely suggested that the publication of the novel Oromay, depicting the Eritrean War, led to the disappearance of its author, Baalu Girma?

Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:44, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Who's That Chick?

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that when "Who's That Chick?" debuted at number nine on the UK Singles Chart, Rihanna became only the fourth act in UK chart history to have at least three songs in the top ten of the UK Singles Chart?

• Reviewed: Schoolin' Life

Created/expanded by Calvin999 (talk). Self nom at 13:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Tip: the hook is too long. I suggest you remove "whilst Rihanna's previous singles "Only Girl (In the World)" and "What's My Name" were already in the top-ten". What a pro. (talk) 00:56, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Removed. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 09:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Before I can do a full review, the article needs expansion. This revision was 2576 characters long, meaning the article needs to be at least 12880 characters in length. However, the current version is only 11278. This means you need 1602 characters more. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:16, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Okay. I will try an expand it more. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• How much am I off now? Aaron • ^{You Da One} 15:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• 800, give or take. You are at 12031 characters Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Okay let me get my thinking cap on haha. Aaron • ^{You Da One} 22:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Alemu Abebe

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the in 2005 a former mayor of the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa, Alemu Abebe, was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment for his role during the Derg rule?

• Reviewed: [11]

Created/expanded by Soman (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Reverie Sound Revue

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Canadian indie rock band Reverie Sound Revue went on a "blog tour" where they released videos of band members playing live online?

• ALT1:... that both of Canadian indie rock band Reverie Sound Revue's releases have been eponymous?
• Reviewed: Rowenna Davis

5x expanded by What a pro. (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Georgian numerals

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the names of numbers in Georgian are constructed in part using a base-20 system? Created/expanded by Richwales (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Interesting article! Length, 5x expansion and date verified, assuming good faith on the hook. Can you please add inline references throughout the article, as these are required for DYK eligibility? Also, it would be great if you can add another source in addition to the Aronson book. — Toдor Boжinov — 13:20, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• I've added more sources and inline citations. Please have another look now. — Richwales 05:13, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 6

Didelot (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that after winning the 1796 Derby Stakes as a 30/1 outsider, the Thoroughbred Didelot failed to win again the rest of his racing career, and was subsequently sent to Russia? Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 15:36, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Edin Osmanović

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that football manager Edin Osmanović (pictured) became the vice-champion of the Slovenian PrvaLiga and Slovenian Football Cup, and played several matches in the UEFA Cup with his club, HIT Gorica?
  Created/expanded by Khanassassin (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Esther Hill

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in 1925, Esther Hill became the first woman to be registered as an architect in Canada?

• ALT1:... that Esther Hill, the first woman to be registered as an architect in Canada, turned to weaving in order to support herself during the Great Depression, and went on to win first prize in weaving at the Canadian National Exhibition in 1942?

Created/expanded by SarahStierch (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 23:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• The original hook may be good for March 8th. --PFHLai (talk) 00:12, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Andrey Kapitsa

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Russian geographer Andrey Kapitsa, who discovered the largest subglacial lake in Antarctica (pictured), was a son of Pyotr Kapitsa, a Nobel Prize in Physics winner known for his low temperature research? Created/expanded by Greyhood (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Copenhagen (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Duke of Wellington was almost kicked in the head by his war horse Copenhagen (pictured) after riding the horse for seventeen straight-hours during the Battle of Waterloo?

• Comment: 5x expansion, Reviewed: Downing Hall

Created/expanded by Froggerlaura (talk). Self nom at 04:11, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• Article meets all requirements, interesting article. Miyagawa (talk) 23:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Article has not been expanded 5x within the past 10 days (33 days). Expansion began 52 edits ago on January 9, 2012. -- ɑηsuмaη ^{ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ} 05:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

On Feb 6 the article was 4,000 bytes (when I first edited) and is now over 20,000 bytes. I nominated within the 10 day range. What exactly is the problem? The previous (Jan 9) expansion was not done by me and the page had not be touched for over a month before I saw it. I am going to get this article up to GA standards soon and can add more. Froggerlaura (talk) 06:23, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't go by bytes, Laura. Counting bytes is not considered "fair", as it would be too easy to "expand" by adding categories, templates such as infoboxes, pictures with long filenames and detailed descriptions in the legend, references with long titles, ... etc. Instead, we count the prose length by characters. Before Feb6, the article has 2100 characters in its prose. The current version has a character count of 9901. That's a 4.7-fold expansion. You are getting very close to 5 folds! (Actually, if it's >4.8, I'm going to round it up to 5.) Happy typing. Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 07:09, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Love's Messenger

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Love's Messenger (pictured), an 1885 watercolor painting by Marie Spartali Stillman, shows a red rose, a white dove, a love letter and an embroidery of a blind-folded Cupid?

• Reviewed: Lange (ski boots)
• Comment: This would be great for Valentine's Day (February 14)

Created/expanded by Smallbones (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

SS Port Nicholson (1918)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the wreck of the SS Port Nicholson, a British merchant ship sunk in 1942 by U-87, (pictured) is reported to contain £2 billion worth of precious metals?

• Reviewed: King and Queen, Brighton

Created/expanded by Benea (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Article is long enough and nominated in the proper time frame. It would be nice to see the merge tag taken care of, but I don't think it violates DYK rules, since it's discussing merging another article into this one. This article is neutral and properly sourced, and spotchecks show no concerns with copyvio or sources not covering information. The hook is of the proper length and formatting and properly sourced. The image is properly licensed and used in the article, but in my opinion it looks kind of like a black and white smudge at this size. Just my opinion, though... Dana boomer (talk) 15:07, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Tom Kerridge, The Hand and Flowers

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Tom Kerridge • The Hand and Flowers )

• ... that chef Tom Kerridge is the owner of The Hand and Flowers, the first pub to hold two Michelin stars?

• Reviewed: Elizabeth C. Crosby, Marriage loan

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Sadhana Shivdasani

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the famous hairstyle "Sadhana cut" was inspired from Hollywood actress Audrey Hepburn?

• Reviewed: Abbas Kazmi
• Reviewed: List of million-plus agglomerations in India
• Reviewed: Poonch Airport

Created/expanded by Animeshkulkarni (talk). Self nom at 15:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Kuntowijoyo

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Indonesian author Kuntowijoyo called Muhammadiyah a cultural organization with no culture?

• ALT1:... that Indonesian author Kuntowijoyo said he did not follow a blueprint when writing?
• ALT2:... that Indonesian author Kuntowijoyo wrote more frequently after a bout with meningoencephalitis left him with difficulty speaking?

Created/expanded by Redyka94 (talk), Crisco 1492 (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 13:52, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Philippines at the Asian Games (fifth of six reviews)

Zambales' 2nd legislative district special election, 2012

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the 2012 special election in Zambales' 2nd district was contested by members of three political families in the Philippines? Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

1981 General strike in Bielsko-Biała

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the 1981 General strike in Bielsko-Biała was the first purely political industrial action in the history of modern Communist-ruled Poland?

• Reviewed: Uglich Hydroelectric Station

Created/expanded by Tymek (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Just reworded to put due caveat as not POV and that th claim could be dubious over the long course of history.Lihaas (talk) 06:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Lihaas, but now one may think that there was, say, modern and ancient Communist Poland. There was only one Communist Poland, and I do not think any more adjectives are needed here. Tymek (talk) 04:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

List of Scheduled Monuments in Maidstone

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the remains of moats, mottes and a moot are among the 27 Scheduled Monuments in Maidstone, England?

• Reviewed: Sangay
• Comment: Because the page is formatted using table syntax, the page size tool will show the prose size as 0 words.

Created/expanded by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 02:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

• Is "Scheduled" part of the title or is it perhaps better in lowercase? ResMar 00:14, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
  • It's part of the title. "Scheduled Monument" should be capitalised.--DavidCane (talk) 00:46, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Local Coordination Committees of Syria

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that according to The New York Times, the "overwhelmingly young" Local Coordination Committees of Syria (pictured) are starting to "emerge as a pivotal force" in Syria?

• Reviewed: Communist Labour Party (Syria)
• Comment: This is an expansion of prose by a factor of about five, not a new article. User:Hala1176 was the original creator of the article, but s/he copy/pasted (very likely in good faith) text from the LCCSyria's "about us" page on their website - presently used as a minor source, ref 3 in this version - so i didn't list him/her as a major author. I removed the pasted text, but i considered it valid for the definition of prose length and expansion. User:Life in General's contributions were prior to my expansion.

5x expanded by Boud (talk), Life in General (talk). Nominated by Boud (talk) at 01:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 7

Vostok (sloop-of-war), Mirny (sloop-of-war)

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Vostok (sloop-of-war) • Mirny (sloop-of-war) )

• ... that Russian Antarctic research stations Vostok and Mirny are named after the sloops-of-war Vostok and Mirny (pictured) sailed by Bellingshausen and Lazarev, the discoverers of Antarctica? Created/expanded by Greyhood (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Sir Thomas (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Sir Thomas, a Thoroughbred racehorse purchased by George, Prince of Wales in 1787, became the first horse owned by a member of the British Royal Family to win the Derby Stakes a year later? Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 23:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Pedro Dibut

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Pedro Dibut was one of several white Cubans who played baseball in both the Negro leagues and the major leagues before integration? Created/expanded by BRMo (talk), Penale52 (talk). Nominated by BRMo (talk) at 05:24, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Marine fungi, Avicennia alba, Bruguiera cylindrica

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Marine fungi • Avicennia alba • Bruguiera cylindrica )

• ... that the greatest number of known species of marine fungi are found growing on mangroves (pictured) including Api Api Putih and Bakau Putih?

• Reviewed: Theater des Westens
• Comment: Also reviewed South Korea at the 2002 Asian Games and North Korea at the 2002 Asian Games

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Straus Street

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Israeli city of Netanya and Jerusalem’s Straus Street were both named in honor of an owner of Macy’s department store?

• Reviewed: Sri Lanka Eye Donation Society

Created/expanded by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

St. Vincent's Medical Center Southside

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that St. Vincent's Medical Center Southside, founded as St. Luke's Hospital in 1873, began in a rented, two-room farmhouse in Jacksonville, Florida?

• ALT1:... that St. Vincent's Medical Center Southside, founded during 1873 as St. Luke's Hospital in Jacksonville, is the oldest private hospital in Florida?
• Reviewed: USNS Montford Point

Created/expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Abbas Kazmi

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that a US diplomat had approached Abbas Kazmi to build a case to free Ajmal Kasab, the lone gunman caught during 2008 Mumbai attacks?

• Comment: I had created the Page in my user space on Jan 30 2012 and moved it to main space on 7 Feb 2012

Created/expanded by Ratnakar Kulkarni (talk). Nominated by Ratnakar.kulkarni (talk) at 13:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

The article is New (moved from User space). Long enough with more than 1500 characters. Hook is interesting and understandable and suitably referenced. But the article doesnt through much light on the hook. That section of the article should write more about this. In fact, that part confuses you from what you read in the hook. Please improve that. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 13:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I have made few changes to the article and also to the section that you mentioned, can you please review it once. - Ratnakar Kulkarni (talk)

I still wasnt very happy with it. Hence made some changes. And hence i would also want some other editor to review it. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 15:41, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Sublingua

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that prosimian primates like lemurs and slow lorises have a "second tongue" called a sublingua, which they use to clean their toothcomb?

• Reviewed: Zainal Mustafa
• Comment: An image or illustration may be available within a few days. I have someone at the Duke Lemur Center offering to send a photo of this bizarre anatomical structure, plus I have requested an illustration be made by a skilled Wiki illustrator. I will try to post what I get ASAP. – VisionHolder « talk » 10:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 10:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Inline ref, date and hook and article length all checks out. VisionHolder, I say the article is ready to go, but if you would like to wait for those images, I can wait to add the {{DYKtick}}. jonkerz ♠talk 09:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm still hoping to get a photo either today or early next week. Also, the illustrator said that he would look into creating the illustration either this weekend or early next week. If it's okay to wait until Wednesday of next week (15 Feb), let's do that. If I have nothing by then, we'll just do the hook without an illustration. Regardless, the illustration would be very helpful for readers to visualize what the article is talking about. – VisionHolder « talk » 14:00, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Sinan Reis

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Sinan Reis, a Sephardi Jewish pirate and Barbary corsair whose family was forced from Spain, helped Ottoman admiral Hayreddin Barbarossa defeat the Spanish at the 1538 Battle of Preveza (pictured)? Created/expanded by Aslbsl (talk). Self nom at 13:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• Date, Size, hook all verified. —TSRL (talk) 09:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• I did a spot check for closeness of wording and found that the paragraph that starts "In 1544 Sinan was at Suez on the Red Sea, where he was constructing a fleet to aid an Indian ruler expel the Portuguese" is closely paraphrased from page 69 of this book. The wording of that paragraph is actually rather awkward, so a thorough-going restructuring would both improve the article and eliminate the WP:close paraphrasing concern. --Orlady (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I tried reworking the passage. Please revisit the article and let me know what you think. Thanks! Aslbsl (talk) 03:21, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. In reviewing your rewrite, I looked more closely at the entire article and sources, and I have some additional questions.

The concern with the above passage is in how it is structured. It closely follows the unusual structure of the passage in the book, which is written in the style of fiction, starting with Sinan Reis receiving good news, then moving backward in time to explain what the good news was all about. The book also includes some details whose encyclopedic relevance to the article about Sinan Reis isn't clear. Telling the story with the same unusual structure and including the same details as the source is considered close paraphrasing; parallel wording such as "landed men at Piombino, sacked the town, and blew up the fort" (article) and "landed his men, sacked the town of Piombino, and blew up the fort" (source) doesn't help. In trying to figure out how to fix it, I realize that I'm not quite sure what the encyclopedic significance of the passage is. I guess the significant information is that Barbarossa spent 5 years trying to retrieve Sinan's son after the son was kidnapped, and the rescue didn't succeed until after Barbarossa sacked Piombino.

In looking at the sources, I was puzzled by the assertion that this Sinan is not the same as Sinan Pasha (Ottoman admiral). Is there a source, other than Wikipedia, that distinguishes the different Sinans? One reason I ask about this is that the Edward Kritzler book has a lot more content about the exploits of "Sinan" than appears in this article, including exploits as late as 1553 (7 years after the stated death of Sinan Reis, and the same year that the Ottoman admiral is supposed to have died). That leads me to wonder about how the two Sinans are being distinguished from each other. If this is the same "Sinan" who (according to Kritzler) took Tunis on behalf of Suleiman on August 20, 1534, shouldn't that be mentioned in the article? (Or is that the other Sinan?) Similarly, the dates are confusing: if Sinan Reis wasn't named "the great Jew" until 1528, I wonder how it was determined that the block quote in the "Life" section from 1521 ("As to Coron, it was reported at Rome a few days ago that Andrea Doria was informed that the famous Jewish pirate...") is actually about the same "famous Jewish pirate".

Back to the subject of close paraphrasing, I'm afraid it't not limited to the paragraph noted above. In another example, the article wording "who mistakenly believed that Sinan was sent by Suleiman the Magnificent to aid the King of Calicut" is very similar to wording on page 279 of the Kritzler book. Also, it's not clear that the detail about the mistaken belief is content that belongs in the article. --Orlady (talk) 05:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Articles created/expanded on February 8

Hook and Ladder No. 4

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Hook and Ladder No. 4 (pictured) fire station in Albany, New York, is one of the few Dutch Colonial Revival buildings in the city?

• ALT1:... that four three-foot-tall (1 m) terra cotta beavers carrying shields stand atop Hook and Ladder No. 4 (pictured) in Albany, New York, to symbolize vigilance against fire?
• Reviewed: Open range

Created/expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Open range

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that if your car hits a cow on a road in the open range, in many of the Western United States, then most likely you cannot claim damages from the cattle owner, but if you hit a bull, then quite likely you can? Created/expanded by Last Lost (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Length, reference and history verified. Amended wording slightly to make it clear where we're talking about. Daniel Case (talk) 18:56, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Krejci Dump

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that after the Krejci Dump became part of the Cuyahoga Valley National Park in Ohio, the National Park Service then discovered the land was contaminated enough for Superfund cleanup?

• Reviewed: Cadland

Created/expanded by Runmikeyrun (talk). Nominated by Shearonink (talk) at 01:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Lori Greiner

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that QVC personality and "shark" Lori Greiner has invented over 350 consumer products?

• Reviewed: Hastings Prototype House

Created/expanded by Dtrebbien (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

John Hill (Royal Navy officer)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Sir John Hill was tasked with preparing HMS Temeraire for sale and disposal, an event depicted by J. M. W. Turner in The Fighting Temeraire (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Canterbury Cricket Week

Created/expanded by Benea (talk). Self nom at 21:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• All criterion met.--Ceradon ^talk_contribs 00:25, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Canterbury Cricket Week

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Canterbury Cricket Week is the oldest festival week in England?

• Reviewed: No Surrender (2005)

Created/expanded by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Article is just about long enough and the date is fine. The article, hook and source are however stating three different things. The hook says 'oldest festival week', the article says 'oldest cricket festival' and the source says 'oldest festival cricket week'. Both hook and article should probably be changed to follow the source, since there may be older festival weeks for something other than cricket, and there may be older cricket festivals that are not week-long. Benea (talk) 21:35, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Alt1 ... that Canterbury Cricket Week is the oldest cricket festival week in England? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 07:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy to pass Alt1 now. A minor point, in the article you probably ought to clarify where it is the oldest cricket festival week (i.e. in England). Benea (talk) 17:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 9

Double Fine Adventure

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Double Fine Productions was able to raise more than $1 million in crowd-sourced Kickstarter funding in under 24 hours, the fastest to date, for an upcoming adventure game, tentatively titled Double Fine Adventure? Created/expanded by Masem (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

List of NHL goaltenders with 300 wins

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Miikka Kiprusoff became the 27th goaltender in National Hockey League history to win 300 games, reaching the milestone on February 8, 2012?

• Reviewed: C&O desk

Created/expanded by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 03:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Serjeant (horse), Saltram (horse)

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Serjeant (horse) • Saltram (horse) )

• ... that in 1784, the racehorse Serjeant had to run half a mile more than the previous winner, Saltram, in order to win the Derby Stakes? Created/expanded by Tigerboy1966 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 08:20, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Wings Club

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Igor Sikorsky told the Wings Club in 1964 that the helicopter would not be replaced by the VTOL?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert of Winchester

Created/expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

The Hound of London

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that only Reginald Owen, Carleton Hobbs, and Jeremy Brett, and Patrick Macnee have portrayed both Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson professionally, with Macnee portraying Holmes in The Hound of London? Created/expanded by ThaddeusSholto (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Jack le Goff

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Jack le Goff has been called "one of the greatest coaches in three-day eventing history", as he built a multiple-medal-winning team from previously unknown horses and riders?

• Reviewed: William Fawcett (author)

Created/expanded by Dana boomer (talk). Self nom at 16:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Robert Hausmann

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the German cellist Robert Hausmann was the dedicatee and first performer of both Bruch's Kol Nidrei and Brahms's Double Concerto in A minor? Created/expanded by JackofOz (talk). Self nom at 20:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• References and length checked. Mangoe (talk) 14:31, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Cuyopsis

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that shells of the extinct Argentinian bivalve Cuyopsis are symmetrical enough to be named for it?

• Reviewed: Megaphragma mymaripenne
• Comment: binomial is Cuyopsis symmetricus, named for the symmetry of the shells, see Sanchez page 69 under etymology

Created/expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Poedjangga Baroe

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in nine years of circulation, Indonesian literary magazine Poedjangga Baroe had 125 employees or contributors but never more than 150 subscribers?

• ALT1:... that Indonesian literary magazine Poedjangga Baroe never had more than 150 subscribers, but became the title of a literary generation?
• ALT2:... that Indonesian literary magazine Poedjangga Baroe was criticized for increasing the Indonesian lexicon?
• ALT3:... that the Sultan of Pontianak subscribed to Poedjangga Baroe?
• Comment: Cover may or may not be PD (and therefore good for the main page), waiting on WP:MCQ

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Asian Games Federation (sixth of six reviews)

Bolo (1982 video game)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the 1982 Apple II game Bolo was praised in 2010 for its "surprisingly nice AI enemies"?

• Reviewed: John Russell (equestrian)

Created/expanded by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Benjamin Hardin Helm

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that when Confederate brigadier general Benjamin Hardin Helm was killed on the battlefield during the Battle of Chickamauga, President Abraham Lincoln, Helm's brother-in-law, locked himself in a room in the White House and wept uncontrollably?

• Reviewed: John Hill (Royal Navy officer) (diff)

Created/expanded by Ceradon (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, the article has only had a 3x expansion of character count and, despite being a BLP, was not completely unreferenced. Toa Nidhiki05 02:59, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Lift Up Your Face

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that a live concert performance of the Third Day song "Lift Up Your Face" was released along with the rest of the concert to benefit 2011 Joplin Tornado tornado relief for Joplin, Missouri?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Hardin Helm

Created/expanded by Toa Nidhiki05 (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Sara Blicavs

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that current Australian Institute of Sport player Sara Blicavs is testing a sport bra for Berlei?

• Reviewed: Madeline Rogero

Created/expanded by LauraHale (talk). Self nom at 09:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Tessa Lavey, Olivia Thompson

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Tessa Lavey • Olivia Thompson )

• ... that current Australian Institute of Sport players Tessa Lavey and Olivia Thompson both competed at the 2009 FIBA Under-17 World Championship?

• Reviewed: Natalya Timakova

Created/expanded by LauraHale (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 10

Samut Prakan radiation accident

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Samut Prakan radiation accident resulted from old teletherapy heads left lying around in a car park?

• Alt1: ... that responders to the Samut Prakan radiation accident used an electromagnet attached to a five-metre bamboo pole to fish for objects in their search of the radiation source?

• Reviewed: #Sam (horse)[12]

Created/expanded by Paul 012 (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Radim Nečas

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that footballer Radim Nečas became the most expensive player in Czechoslovakia when Slavia Prague signed him for 25 million Czechoslovak koruna in 1992?

• Reviewed: Jacksonville ROAR

Created/expanded by Cloudz679 (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Ray Butts EchoSonic

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Ray Butts EchoSonic gave live slapback to Chet Atkins, Scotty Moore, and Carl Perkins? Created/expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 03:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Disco Fever. Drmies (talk)

Disco Fever

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that hip hop artist Run-D.M.C. performed their first paying gig at the Disco Fever nightclub in the Bronx?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Glover Park Group
• Comment: Recently expanded by 5x. Binksternet (talk) 20:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Fantastic, Bink: from PROD to DYK. What a great story! OK, everything checks out (length, sources, hook, etc), but I got a few little comments. First, the link for the Sal Abbatiello interview is dead and I can't find anything to verify the quote. I think you know what that means, unfortunately (pity, 'cause it's a great quote). Second, the article would benefit from a good proofreading, not so much for errors but for prose--sentence variation and combination, etc. I made a few little edits, but I'm tired. Hey, thanks again. Drmies (talk) 04:05, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• The Abbatiello interview was archived by the Wayback Machine so I've adjusted the cite accordingly. I have not yet played with the prose as you suggest, but I'm not aiming for WP:GA, so I don't see the urgency. Binksternet (talk) 08:45, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• Good work on the cite. As for prose: DYK is an advertisement for Wikipedia. Improvements are welcomed. Drmies (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• I tweaked it some. I removed the list of performers: only Flash and Run-DMC are verified in the article. Drmies (talk) 22:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Comment. Artist refers to an individual, but Run-D.M.C. is a group. Cloudz679 09:31, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Not exactly. Note that the band Aerosmith won the "Artist Achievement Award" in 1999 and in 2004 were positioned at #18 in the "Top Pop Artists of the Past 25 Years". More to the point, Run-D.M.C. came in at #48 of Rolling Stone's 2008 tribute to the Top 500 Artists Of All Time. Record company executive Bob Sherwood told Billboard that "Radio doesn't know what to do with Run-D.M.C. I love to see that kind of artist. I love to know that in Phoenix and Des Moines and Salt Lake City, Run-D.M.C. is selling a lot of copies." The artists and repertoire (A&R) people on a record label do not focus solely on solo artists—they include artists who are groups. Binksternet (talk) 14:31, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• Drmies (talk) 22:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

1985 Football League Cup Final

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that despite reaching the 1985 Football League Cup Final, both Norwich and Sunderland were relegated from the First Division at the end of that season?

• Comment: Fivefold expansion

Created/expanded by Sunderland06 (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• 5x expansion, length, sourcing, date of creation, hook and its reference are fine. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

C&O desk

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in the Oval office George H. W. Bush used the C&O desk instead of the Resolute desk during his presidential term? Created/expanded by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment: i just moved from userspace to mainspace today.--Found5dollar (talk) 16:16, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
• Reviewed: Ships lost in San Francisco at Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know

Looks good. Sources check out, no close paraphrasing, hook is verified and appropriate length. Good to go! Resolute 03:27, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Bonfire (horse)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that a Bonfire has won five Olympic medals?

• Reviewed: SS Port Nicholson (1918)

Created/expanded by Dana boomer (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• I thought the above was kind of cool, but a more standard hook could be something like "... that Olympic medal winning dressage horse Bonfire was originally considered a poor prospect because of his hot temperament?" Dana boomer (talk) 15:13, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Sanusi Pane

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Sanusi Pane has been considered the first Indonesian poet to explore himself through poetry?

• ALT1:... that writer Sanusi Pane compared Westerners to Faust and Easterners to Arjuna?
• ALT2:... that Sanusi Pane has been called the most important Indonesian dramatist from before the national revolution?

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:22, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: List of songs recorded by Rihanna

Douglas W. Owsley

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Douglas W. Owsley (pictured) of the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History has overseen the forensic examination of over 10,000 human remains from over an 8,000-year time span? Created/expanded by Cindamuse (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• This is my first DYK nomination and as such, I would appreciate all input and any ideas about the hook. Thanks.

About a Girl (Sugababes song)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that "About a Girl" is the first Sugababes single to not feature former founding member Keisha Buchanan? Nominated by Till I Go Home (talk) at 02:00, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Romney Academy

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that upon its incorporation of classical studies in 1820, Romney Academy became one of the earliest institutions of higher education in the South Branch Potomac region of West Virginia?

• Reviewed: Alice Delysia

Created/expanded by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 11

Statue of Nelson Mandela, Parliament Square

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the statue of Nelson Mandela (pictured) located in Parliament Square was originally intended to be placed in Trafalgar Square, home to Nelson's Column?

• Reviewed: Copenhagen (horse)
• Comment: The Nelson's Column part isn't cited, but I thought it was pretty obvious that its located in Trafalgar Square.

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 23:49, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Villicumia

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Ordovician age bivalve, Villicumia has overlapping teeth seen in few other bivalves?

• Reviewed: Caprella mutica
• Comment: See the Villicumia discussion section on page 69 of Sanchez

Created/expanded by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Eston railway station

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the opening of Eston railway station (pictured in 1902) enabled passengers to travel from Middlesbrough, England to California in only 15 minutes?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lydd Town F.C.
• Comment: Prose expanded from 373 B (68 words) to 3522 B (618 words)

Expanded and nominated by Prioryman (talk) at 20:43, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Dyspanopeus sayi

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the crab Dyspanopeus sayi may have lived in the Venetian Lagoon for 25 years before it was discovered?

• Reviewed: Aegisuchus

Created/expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Blade Runner (1985 video game)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that due to copyright issues, the 1985 video game Blade Runner was based on the soundtrack to the 1982 film, but not the film itself?

• Reviewed: 1923 Michigan Wolverines football team

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 16:55, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• I'm afraid the hook is a bit misleading - the problem was specifically about licensing (not quite the same as copyright). I suggest an alternative as follows. Prioryman (talk) 22:51, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that due to licensing issues, the 1985 video game Blade Runner was based on the movie soundtrack by Vangelis rather than on Blade Runner itself?

• Fine by me, so struck through original. Miyagawa (talk) 23:51, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Nick Swardson

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that comedian Nick Swardson (pictured) first performed stand-up comedy at the age of 18 "as a goof" and was selected to perform at the US Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colorado just 2 years later?

• Reviewed: Wagner Dream
• Comment: 5x expansion. To assist the reviewer with the refs:

• The "goof" statement is found in The Portland Mercury article
• The fact that he was 18 was referenced in both the Comedy Central press release titled "Six-Episode Series Starring Nick Swardson Will Premiere In 2010", as well as in the interview for Splitsider.
• The fact that he was 20 when he went to the comedy festival is mentioned in the New York Times article "The Unfunny Business Of Making the Right People (TV Producers) Laugh"

Created/expanded by Marchije (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Sjumandjaja

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that both Sjumandjaja and his daughter Djenar Maesa Ayu won Citra Awards?

• ALT1:... that Sjumandjaja was the first Indonesian to attend the All-Union State Institute of Cinematography and the first non-Russian to graduate summa cum laude?

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewing: Who's That Chick?

Port Washington Light

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the Port Washington Light (pictured) was restored with the assistance of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg?

• Reviewed: Robert Hausmann
• Comment: Note that this article had to sit in user space a long time; don't get tripped up by the history.

Created/expanded by Mangoe (talk). Self nom at 14:38, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Paul Davidson (producer)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Paul Davidson (pictured) produced thirty-nine movies directed by Ernst Lubitsch?

• Reviewed: Adelbert Theodor Wangemann

Created/expanded by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

White Heat (book)

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that White Heat by Marco Pierre White was described by one critic as "possibly the most influential recipe book of the last 20 years"?

• Reviewed: Stone Bridge (Regensburg)

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Retro Gamer ranked Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars at #2 on their list of Top 20 Best Adventure Games of All-Time... not by Lucas-Arts?

• Comment: Previously passed GAN, HUGELY expanded.

Created/expanded by Khanassassin (talk). Self nom at 10:06, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• Sorry, the prose must be five times expanded within the last five days. A month ago it was 25k, and now it's 22k. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 11:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

List of Connecticut Huskies in the WNBA Draft

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that four Connecticut Huskies women's basketball players have been drafted first overall in the WNBA Draft, including most recently Maya Moore (pictured) in 2011?

• Reviewed: [13]

Created by Grondemar (talk). Self nom at 01:38, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

1991 PBA First Conference Finals

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that after winning the seventh game of the 1991 PBA First Conference Finals, Ginebra San Miguel became the first team in Philippine Basketball Association history to win a championship series coming from a 1-3 deficit? 5x expanded by WayKurat (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 12

Charles Lamberton

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Charles Lamberton was a French paleontologist who tactfully refuted an theory claiming that some extinct, giant lemurs were aquatic and that one of them was an "arboreal-aquatic acrobat"?

• Reviewed: Henry Seymour (secularist)

Created/expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 07:13, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Please do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, nominate them in the nominations section above, under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within five days of creation or expansion, as usual, and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

February 14 (Centennial of Arizona statehood)

Arizona Pioneers' Home

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Old West madam Big Nose Kate spent her final years at the Arizona Pioneers' Home (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Cycadeoidea

Created/expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

• Nice article. It is new. It is long enough. It is well referenced and an interesting article.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• Date request: This DYK could run on February 14 which is the centennial of Arizona statehood, at a time when Arizonans are awake to see it. Of course, February 14 is also St. Valentine's Day, but I don't see any suitable candidates for that celebration. Binksternet (talk) 23:21, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Henry Kibbey

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Arizona Territorial Governor Joseph Henry Kibbey (pictured) threatened to resign over a proposal to grant Arizona statehood?

• ALT1:... that Arizona Territorial Governor Joseph Henry Kibbey (pictured) preferred to be addressed by the title "judge"?
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nasida Ria
• Comment: Request hook be scheduled for February 14, 2012 (100th Anniversary of Arizona Statehood). --Allen3 ^talk 17:31, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. Age, length of article OK. Looks well-referenced. First hook is interesting and hook fact AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• Added (pictured) and verified public domain status of image; however, I'd like to note that the image isn't sharp and has some kind of screen over it. Yoninah (talk) 16:06, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• I uploaded a higher resolution which is better than the original. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:29, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

• Duelling review here . . .

for ALT1. I found the source online and verified it; checked a sample of the refs and found no plagiarism, but AGF on those I wished to check and could not see. Article is well referenced, coherent, and I agree, young enough and more than five times expanded. However, the original hook is misleading; it was the proposal to grant Arizona statehood as part of a combined state with New Mexico that he opposed, and the article states that he pushed moral legislation because it increased the likelihood of statehood being granted. Good to go for ALT1 but not for the original hook, in my opinion. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

March 1 (St David's Day)

St Peter's Church, Dixton

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that although St Peter's Church (pictured) is in Monmouthshire (which is in Wales) its congregation decided to join the Church of England in 1920?

• Comment: another Monmouthpedia article ...

Created/expanded by Pigsonthewing (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 23:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• Shouldn't that be "congrgation", not "congregational"? LadyofShalott 02:09, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

thx - made that change Victuallers (talk) 21:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

• The hook is a bit clunky with that parenthetical statement; I suggest the following, which I think highlights the contradiction better. Prioryman (talk) 20:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that although St Peter's Church (pictured) in Monmouthshire is a Welsh church, in 1920 its congregation decided to join the Church of England?

Nice Alt. Sholud this be saved for St Davids day too? Victuallers (talk) 16:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

If it's CofE, St George's could be used too. :-) But either would do, I'm sure. Prioryman (talk) 22:48, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

• Approved. Saved for St David's day. Rcsprinter (talkin' to me?) 16:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Cardiff town walls

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that only two sections of the medieval Cardiff town walls survive, one of which supports a flower bed (pictured)? Created/expanded by Seth Whales (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

• I have no objection to this going into the Special occasion holding area under March 1st (St David's Day). Note: Cardiff is the capital city of Wales (St David is the patron saint of Wales). SethWhales ^talk 20:52, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

• Article is long enough, appropriately dated, and well sourced, with no apparent policy issues. The hook is suitable, and properly cited. The image is in the public domain. The only stumbling block is the QPQ requirement. --Stemonitis (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Phoenix Sports F.C.

• All criteria now satisfied. --Stemonitis (talk) 19:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

• Moving to St David's Day holding area. Miyagawa (talk) 10:31, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Monmouth Cap

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that according to Shakespeare, Henry V, who was born in Monmouth, approved of Welshmen wearing leeks in their Monmouth caps (pictured)? Created/expanded by Ghmyrtle (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 16:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

• St Davids Day is the 1st of March when leeks are meant to be worn...

Article is well-written and well-cited. Hook is cited and interesting. Pic has the proper licensing. I'd say we're good to go! --Coemgenus (talk) 00:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Coemgenus - I shall move this to March 1st as MonmouthpediA should be there for St David's Day Victuallers (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Can I suggest this image is used instead? The only known example of an original Monmouth Cap, dating from the 16th century, on display at Monmouth Museum Mrjohncummings (talk) 09:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Morgraig Castle

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that there is no evidence to suggest that the 13th-century Morgraig Castle (pictured) in Wales was ever completed or occupied? Created/expanded by Seth Whales (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• Comment: Can I suggest if approved that this should be selected for St David's Day holding area.

• Reviewed: Midkiff Seductive
  

• Article (created yesterday) is long enough, neutral and well-cited. Hook is interesting and cited. Copyvio check finds none, and image has CCA Share-alike license 2.0 so can be used. Ready to go. Moonraker (talk) 04:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Agree with the move to future holding area, though there are already some 2-3 articles there. also would reword the blurb to say something like "it is unlikly that the 13th0century..." or that there is currently no evidence...Lihaas (talk) 06:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, how about:

• ALT1:... that it is unlikely that the 13th-century Morgraig Castle (pictured) in Wales was ever completed or occupied?
• ALT2:... that there is currently no evidence that the 13th-century Morgraig Castle (pictured) in Wales was ever completed or occupied?

March 5 (St Piran's Day)

Penhale Sands

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Penhale Sands (pictured) is believed to be the landing site of Saint Piran, the patron saint of Cornwall?

• Reviewed: John Etherington Welch Rolls
• Comment: Feast day of St Piran (St Piran's Day) is 5 March, it would be great if this could be put in the "Special occasion holding area" for this date.

Created/expanded by Jowaninpensans (talk), Zangar (talk). Nominated by Zangar (talk) at 10:53, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Good to go. Reccomend holding it until March 5 as per the nominator's suggestion. Óðinn (talk) 03:37, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

As reviewer agrees, I'll move this to the holding area. Zangar (talk) 14:11, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Ventongimps Moor

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Ventongimps Moor was the first nature reserve to be owned by the Cornwall Wildlife Trust?

• Reviewed: Monmouthshire Beacon
• Comment: Another DYK that might be eligible for 5 March special occasion holding area.

Created/expanded by Zangar (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• Date and length check out, spotchecks show no evidence of copyvio, hook is interesting enough and cited in article. Good to go. Khazar (talk) 11:47, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

March 8 (International Women's Day)

Charleston Female Seminary, Charlestown Female Seminary, Female seminary

( Review or comment )
( Article history links: Charleston Female Seminary • Charlestown Female Seminary • Female seminary )

• ... that the cultural phenomenon of female seminaries in nineteenth-century America spawned a Charleston Female Seminary (pictured) in Charleston, South Carolina, and one in Charlestown, Massachusetts? Created/expanded by Drmies (talk), LadyofShalott, (talk), 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:59, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

• Did some reviewing at Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Fozail ibn Iyaz and Template:Did you know nominations/Madeline Rogero. Drmies (talk) 16:27, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Looks like a candidate for Women's History Day in March! --Orlady (talk) 19:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

• An interesting set of articles, as indicated by my note about saving the hook for Women's History Day -- and the fact that I've now added several additional articles to Category:Female seminaries in the United States. All three are new enough and long enough.

• My face is red. Women's History Month is in October. March 8 is International Women's Day, which isn't such a good match for this article. --Orlady (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• No, you were right the first time. In India, it's in October, but in the US (relevant here) and UK, it's in March. LadyofShalott 19:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you for sorting that out for me. Sigh! --Orlady (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

However, I find myself with a bunch of questions and concerns about the articles and the hook. Let's start with the hook: It's clear from the articles that both of these schools were "female seminaries" in the 19th century, but I don't see anything in the articles or sources that indicates that these particular schools were "spawned" by the "cultural phenomenon". For that matter, the idea of "cultural phenomenon" seems a bit overblown. The story here is that, over a period of 5 decades in different parts of the U.S., a small number of schools were established to provide women with the kind of education that had previously been reserved for men. An important movement, yes -- but a "phenomenon"?!?

In the articles, I am struck by the large number of quotations in such short articles. Female seminary has nine quotations, none of which is identified as to the speaker. Some of the quotations indicate some sort of judgment, but most are statements of fact. I looked to see who was being quoted, and I find that several of the quotations are from this webpage, which is hosted at a reputable educational institution, but seems to be anonymously authored. This strikes me as excessive -- and sloppy -- use of direct quotations. Additionally, when I looked up the sources of some statements that struck me as oddly worded (for example, that Emma Willard's school "is hailed as the first institute..."), I found that the sources cited did not support the statements. (I've long thought that Emma Willard's school was the first of its kind, but "hailed" seemed like an odd way to describe that, and the source cited doesn't even say her school was first, much less "hailed." Additionally, this other webpage suggests that someone else's school came first.)

Charleston Female Seminary has 7 direct quotations. I was particularly bothered by a statement that also appears in Female seminary -- that southern seminaries were "among the most advanced in the country". That's a judgment, so I want to know who said it, but it's that same largely anonymous website. Further, since that quotation (and the entire paragraph) is about female seminaries in the South before the Civil War, it's not clear that it's relevant to a seminary that opened in 1870.

Finally, Charleston Female Seminary (Massachusetts) seems choppy and disjointed -- and I am wondering if the school was truly named "Charleston," since it was in the place known primarily as "Charlestown" and one source calls the school "Charlestown Female Seminary."

Bottom line: Both the articles and the hook need some further development -- but if we hold this until March 8, there will be time to do things right. --Orlady (talk) 04:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Orlady. I'm going to have to ponder this. One quick note: Female seminary certainly needs developing: I wrote it quickly to make a blue link, and it needs to be much bigger, that's for sure. Now, I don't agree that every quote needs to be attributed in-text; many of them are general historical observations rather than interpretations or opinions. I'll get on it. I hope the Lady is watching this also--the two seminaries are her (and 13's) brainchild more then mine. Drmies (talk) 05:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Moved the Charleston Female Seminary (Massachusetts) to Charlestown Female Seminary (Massachusetts). Even though internet archive lists the primary source as "Charleston" the book itself used "Charlestown". I would call the former a typographical error which we ought not repeat. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 09:52, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Added text to Charlestown Female Seminary (Massachusetts) concerning the predecessor to it, which had been founded 2 years before, educated both Catholic and Protestant girls (had a sterling reputation) and was burnt by an angry intolerant mob in 1834. Fully referenced. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:15, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Alt1 ... that development of female seminaries in nineteenth-century America spawned similarly named institutions in Charleston, South Carolina (pictured), and Charlestown, Massachusetts?

• Almost there. Between recent efforts by the creators and editing I did within the last few hours, the concerns I had with the articles are mostly resolved. My only remaining concern is that I have not seen any sources (neither in the article nor anywhere else) that connect the Charleston (South Carolina) Female Seminary to the "female seminary" movement described in the articles. The name certainly is suggestive of a relationship, but similarity of names doesn't constitute reliable sourcing for a hook fact.

PS - There seem to be a lot of good sources on the general topic of "female seminaries" cited in the various articles in the "Female seminaries in the United States" category. --Orlady (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Added the citations per your suggestion. Rewrote couple of paragraphs on female seminaries generally. These new sources, however, don't mention the Charleston Female Seminary by name. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 09:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I knew those sources didn't mention Charleston Female Seminary. I did manage to find one source that had more information about CFS; that makes me feel better about the article. Apparently the South Carolina Encyclopedia (not available electronically) has content about it, too.

The only remaining issue is the hook fact. We need a hook that doesn't indicate a cause-and-effect relationship that can't be supported by sources. Here's one idea:

• ALT2 ... that the 19th-century American female seminary movement, which aimed to give women educational opportunities, lent its name to a pair of similarly named institutions in Charleston, South Carolina (pictured), and Charlestown, Massachusetts? --Orlady (talk) 05:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• I think this one is ready (but other eyes are always welcome). IMO, it should run during the month of March -- Women's History Month in the U.S. --Orlady (talk) 04:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Ladies Memorial Association

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that immediately after the American Civil War ended, Ladies Memorial Associations sprang up all over the South to bury Johnny Reb, build monuments (example pictured) in his honor, and propagate the Lost Cause?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Elma Yerburgh. Also, I'd like File:Confederate Memorial at Alabama State Capitol Apr2009.jpg in there (pictured: Confederate Memorial in Montgomery, Alabama) but I had already filled out the template; I don't know how to stick it in. Your help is appreciated! Created/expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 19:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Done, but your requested "pictured" would have been way over the length limit. The one I inserted just barely fits. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:06, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

• Well done, Mandarax--thank you so much. Drmies (talk) 22:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

• It looks mostly OK apart from the referencing format. Please prefix the bare page numbers with "p." and where you reference multiple sources by the same author you should be using the format name (year), page number rather than adding a book title in quotation marks. For instance, Janney, "Burying the Dead" 39 should be rendered as Janney (2008), p. 39. Prioryman (talk) 20:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• My formatting follows MLA guidelines as closely as possible, thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:26, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

• Hmmm, I generally do that (i.e. use p. and pp. to prefix pages and page ranges respectively for books (but not journals), and stick a date in parentheses for the two Janney thingies), but have not seen any hard-and-fast rules on it, nor have I reviewed Drmies work before (or have I ....can't recall...). I guess if it were me in this position, I'd just tweak all the referencing as Prioryman suggests as it will only take a few minutes, especially given as that is what I have seen almost everywhere else, but technically if we have a page with a legitimate alternative notation then theoretically it can be left I guess......? Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• I use this system for everything I write that stands a decent chance of being expanded significantly, especially if it's an article that relies on scholarly publications for references. The most recent example that was W. R. van Hoëvell, a DYK in December, and now a GA. Likewise with two other GAs, Battle of Brunanburh (poem) and Guillaume de Dole. My style uses strict MLA formatting with footnoted references and a bibliography; what's not MLA is the date in the bibliographical entry but that's because our citation template dictates it. I'm in English, and MLA is what we use; moreover, Help:Citation Style 1 is very clear on the matter: "Editors may choose any style they want." I don't wish to change it. I do, however, wish to make a request--that the article is saved for 8 March, International Women's Day. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 05:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

• I have to agree with Drmies here, there is no "one style to rule them all" for citations. As long as it is consistent in an article. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:47, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

• The citation style was not always consistent, and the lack of "page" before the numbers confused me. I went ahead and reformatted the references, including the full name of the books (not including subtitles). Hook ref is verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:07, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks, I guess. The format was consistent, though, and millions of MLA users have no problems with it. If two or more books or articles by the same author are used, they are distinguished by the title or a clear abbreviation thereof. Drmies (talk) 22:50, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Sybil Plumlee

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that pioneering policewoman Sybil Plumlee was the oldest living former member of the Portland Police Bureau before her death in 2012?

• Comment: If this DYK hook is not applicable to International Women's Day, please move to the February 8 expansion section. Thanks! --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Giulietta Guicciardi

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his Sonata quasi una fantasia for piano, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi? Created/expanded by JohnSpecialK (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 23:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

• possible for Women's Day
• The link [[Sonata quasi una fantasia]] is (or should be) ambiguous; it should be changed to Piano Sonata No. 14. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

• How is this:

ALT1: ... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his second Sonata quasi una fantasia for piano, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• Or more precise but long:

ALT2: ... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his first Sonata quasi una fantasia to Josephine von Liechtenstein, his second ("Moonlight") to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• Date and length OK. I would prefer the original hook and consider if not to wikify Moonlight Sonata instead of the factual name.Aloysius (talk) 15:31, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• For International Women's Day on March 8? That's more than 6 weeks ahead of time. Is 6 weeks still the maximum delay these days? IAR? --PFHLai (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• Corrected the credit to JohnSpecialK, sorry, many editors were interested in her! It can appear anytime, but would make sense that day. But this hook is meant to make known that the sonata was called Sonata quasi una fantasia (!) by the composer (!) at the time of the dedication (!), and only some 35 years later, in a completely different musical period, became known as "Moonlight". I hope this hook will either see the Sonata already moved or broaden the discussion to do so, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
• The first hook with an unambiguous link:

ALT3:... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his Sonata quasi una fantasia for piano, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

• The name "Sonata quasi una fantasia" is a) obscure, b) ambiguous (Beethoven named two piano sonatas this way). The work in question is known as Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 14 or the Moonlight Sonata. I don't understand how its dedication would hook anyone. Nominating it for DYK while a Requested Move discussion is raging at the article seems unwise. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

• I recommended to wait until Women's day, hoping it would be resolved by then. ALT2 clearly says there are two of the name. Something saying that for a while she was believed to be the "Immortal Beloved" would hook more but as she isn't ... Same for the picture which may show her or not. Adjusting to formality but loosing fantasy:

ALT4:... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his Piano Sonata No. 14, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi?

ALT5: ... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his second Sonata quasi una fantasia for piano, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi?

The move discussion is closed. The article can be shown now or later, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

The move discussion seemed closed, it was reverted. Please hold. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

It was moved (again). The article can be shown now or later.

ALT6: ... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his second piano sonata quasi una fantasia, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

• We have a picture now, the title page for the first edition of the score, published in 1802 in Vienna by Gio. Cappi e Compwhich, which can be used (possibly cropped to show her name) for all ALTs, for example:

ALT7: ... that Luigi van Beethoven dedicated his second piano sonata quasi una fantasia (1802 title page pictured), later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

ALT8: ... that Ludwig van Beethoven dedicated his second piano sonata quasi una fantasia, later known as the Moonlight Sonata, to his pupil, Countess Giulietta Guicciardi (possible portrait pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:06, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

• Lest the long discussion cause uncertainty, I'm adding another ticked to clarify that this has been reviewed and approved. I recommend that the sonata be linked as "Moonlight Sonata" (not only is it clearer and more concise, but otherwise many of the click-throughs will go to the sonata article instead of the article about Giulietta) and that the "possible portrait" of Giulietta should be used with this hook. Additionally, considering that it has now been sitting on the noms page for a month, I think it deserves to be highlighted on Women's Day, which is now just one more month away. --Orlady (talk) 17:08, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• PLEASE do not link Moonlight Sonata!!! We had a discussion over this for a week, finally the Sonata got again a decent name in the 21st century. It took 3 decades from the time of the dedication until that nick name was invented, it has nothing to do with the lady. The sonata and its name is what this hook is about, the most important word LATER, may GG forgive us, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Clare Smyth

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Clare Smyth was the first British woman to hold three Michelin stars when she became head chef of Restaurant Gordon Ramsay in 2007?

• Reviewed: Frédéric Banquet
• Comment: Would be suitable for International Woman's Day.

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 12:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• Age, length, sources, QPQ check out. Good to go.--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:59, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Madeline Rogero

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Madeline Rogero, the first woman mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee, was once an organizer for César Chávez's United Farm Workers?

• Comment: I've also made significant edits to the article, but Bms4880 deserves sole credit (at least as things stand right now).

Created/expanded by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 05:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

• Length and timeliness checks: Prose size (text only): 7222 characters (1130 words) "readable prose size". Article created by Bms4880 on January 5, 2012. Hook formatting and length checks. No images for a copyright issue. Used plagiarism checker. No problems. The only bit of duplication found is clearly a quote.
• Article reads neutral enough to me, and doesn't set off any big red flags.
• Hook source does not mention Cesar Chavez at all, just United Farm Workers. I might leave it out as I think it could give the perception of bias given the source. With out it, I would pass. --LauraHale (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Rogero has mentioned Chavez several times, including on her campaign website [14] and in a Metro Pulse interview [15], but if it creates bias, I have no problem changing it. Bms4880 (talk) 14:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
    • I've added three more sources to the article. The name César Chávez gets far more recognition than the bland-sounding "United Farm Workers," and Rogero actually seems to mention his name more often than she mentions the union. She is proud of saying she's the only person who has worked for César Chávez, Dolly Parton, and Colin Powell. --Orlady (talk) 15:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
• I see no problem with the phrasing--the genitive is appropriate, methinks, and the connection between her and the union is verified. Please give Orlady credit also: they've done significant work on the article, and 64 DYKs is a bit paltry, of course. Congrats to Ms. Rogero, BTW--I say this as a former Old North Knoxvillian. Drmies (talk) 16:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• I've changed Orlady's credit from nom to make per Drmies' suggestion. And I've also got a suggestion. I think this should be saved for March 8, International Women's Day. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

So moved. --PFHLai (talk) 02:08, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

We Can Do It!

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that the wartime poster "We Can Do It!" (pictured) was parodied using Marge Simpson?

• Reviewed: Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare

Created/expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 10:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

• Another article of yours that I can't believe didn't exist before. Everything checks out, well done. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks! There's room in the wiki for you to do another popular and widely seen Norman Rockwell painting article if you wish: Rosie the Riveter (painting). Take it away, maestro... Binksternet (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Eh, I feel like it would have to be mostly a split from the section in the main article, which would disqualify it. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• That kind of thinking stopped everyone else except me from making the new article called "We Can Do It!". Just sayin'. <grin> Binksternet (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Is this a good hook to save for use on International Women's Day on March 8th? --PFHLai (talk) 06:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

• That's fine with me. However, there will likely be other suitable DYKs brought forward between now and then. Whatever works. Binksternet (talk) 15:15, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

• I love the idea of having this for March 8th. Smallbones (talk) 04:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

The entire month of March is Women's History Month, so I hope we don't limit ourselves to just one day :) SarahStierch (talk) 16:13, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Women's Cricket World Cup

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that in 1973 the first women's Cricket World Cup was held – two years before the first men's tournament?

• Reviewed: Ingalls 4-S

Created/expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

• Possible hook for March 8 (International Women's Day)? Harrias ^talk 09:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

• All checks out. I removed the stub tag from the article page.Miyagawa (talk) 12:43, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

March 17 (Saint Patrick's Day)

Llantwit Major

( Review or comment • Article history )

• ... that Saint Patrick was a priest at the monastery of St. Illtyd of Llantwit Major when he was reputedly abducted by Irish pirates, later becoming the patron saint of Ireland? Created/expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 14:52, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• A comprehensive article on the town. Five-fold expansion, new enough, long enough and well sourced. Hook reference verified. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:13, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• Save for use on March 17th? This will give the nominator lots of time to perform a peer review of another user's nomination. --PFHLai (talk) 22:28, 4 February 2012 (UTC)