User talk:Charles01/Archive 8

7% solution

Happened to find it on your userpage. Is there something I should know, Mycroft? ;D John H. Watson, M.D. ^{who's the smart one?} 16:57, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Wonder where that came from.... Thanks for spotting it so quickly. I think heroin is what they give you here when you're dying, but they call it morphine for that. Best Charles01 (talk) 17:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Not yours? A likely story. ;D No prob for the catch; I'm keeping an eye out here on the Bandini front, in case. (BTW, I sent a "help" to 328cia for his Italian & car guyness (is that a word? ;D). And IIRC, I owed you one for a catch on my page. Either way, glad to do it. (Watch out for those syringes.) Insp. Lestrade ^{just put your lips together & blow} 22:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Tatra trucks

Hi there, I've added extra info about Tatra trucks history to Tatra article, let me know what you think. Have a fun. Stonufka (talk) 13:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Ref: Auto Union 1000

Hey Charles01, sorry, my mistake, just trying to get a good image – and i got it from the German Wikipedia Auto Union 1000 Article – i trully dislike the eye lids on the front ends, they make them look sad, i dont think they where a factory option anyway, please switch them back - greetings, Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, will be adding some data soon, was thinking we could replace image in question with this one, Image:AutoUnion (DKW) 1000 (registered 1965) right.jpg , eye lids et all, its the best one!, ... by the way, where are you from, don't usually find folks into this vehicles ~ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 14:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Charles01; in regards to your comments, the eye-lids may as a matter of fact, and as you say, may have been used to correct the propensity to dazzle, and improved night visibility particularly in fogy conditions, the old VW bugs also used them amongst maybe others, my theory; most likely the aerodynamic headlights where in an angle with the fender curves and facing something like 22.5º upwards and that may have been the reason, these where after-market accessories to improve performance just like the first Zender spoilers for the bug for better aerodynamics, except this one eventually became part of cars and turned as optional equipment on first generation Sciroccos, thank god eye-lids became history, but if they had a purpose, guess i may have used them too.

As you may have noticed, I've rearranged images on article, placed you favourite one on Infobox, you've created article and i respect that, though I don't particularly like that image, besides, i find the background too busy. May be doing additional adjustments and changes!

And upon further research, as mentioned in article, so many names, and it is really confusing!, here I've got the line up in chronographical order with comments:

• DKW F89 [DKW Meisterklasse 50-54] (fine!)
• DKW F91 [DKW Sonderklasse Cabriolet 53-55 (DKW 3=6)] witch is not mentioned in the DKW 3=6 article, here awesome photo Image:MHV DKW F89 Convertible 02.jpg. (I believe this image is named incorrectly since this is a DKW F91, i may be wrong though)
• DKW 3=6, in the German article= DKW F93 [DKW Sonderklasse 55-59], shouldn't we change nomenclature as they did in the German Wikipedia, [1] This model was really built between 55 and 59, the ones built between 53-55 where really DKW F91 in sedan form, the 55-59 models where same car but wider, Große DKW, im Deutsch), and provably many parts where not interchangeable.
• ...and then comes the Auto Union 1000 with the two different windscreens, and I'm still a little confused with the post and pre facelifts you mention.

I believe the Teutonics are also confused about the model line up, we can straighten this out and make it clearer, let me know your thoughts!

Although I'm almost old enough to remember when the Auto Union 1000 was new, I don't think I'd learned to read by then. Also I was living in England where they never sold more than a handful of these cars. Since they were hardly sold in anglophone markets, it's hard to know what was (or would have been) the correct English language name if they had. If you see what I mean. And as you say, I think even German speakers in Germany or the Alpenlaender - most of them now too young to remember when the cars were new - are unlikely to present a universal consensus concerning the name of the things. The potential for confusion in Germany was and is increased by the way models seem to have overlapped chronologically. You could buy either the old model or the new model as a new car for a considerable period. Whether they were building different generations simultaneously or simply building too many cars and then finding themselves having to use up old stock.... your guess is as good as mine, though I know which I think more likely!

That's part of why I spent so much time spelling out different names with the DKW 3=6. You'll maybe notice, too, that for several of the more likely names for that model I created a redirect page. And that's my point on all this. As long as all the names that a moderately well informed general reader may use redirect to the 'correct' page, I don't think it matters too much which name you prefer. Any 'solution' - preferred name - that you come up with will be the best solution for some people and not for others. And if they sold in significant numbers in non German speaking (but also non-English speaking) markets such as Argentina, you can be sure that people who remember them in Argentina may have 'learned' names for them that are not identical with the name leaned by German speakers in Germany. And which of these people will be consulting anglophone wikipedia in preference to German language wikipedia? Usw. I think you get some of those same issues arising in Mexico for the Borgward sedan (Berline?) models assembled there after the plant was shipped over from Bremen. Which is a long way of saying I don't really know the answer to what you propose. But IF you will change the name for any of those entries, I would urge that you also recreate or set up as appropriate redirect pages for people expecting a different name!

Yes, I had indeed noticed that you put the image I prefer in the info box for the Auto Union 1000. No doubt some day someone will come along with a better idea, which I guess is all part of the tantalising and constantly moving wiki process but meantime I like it. I had thought the 'eye-lids' were an aftermarket accessory, but I've seen several models with them, so maybe they fitted them at the factory as a quick and easy solution to the problem of light escaping into the eyes of oncoming drivers. Were light bulbs getting brighter at this time? On coming drivers were presumably getting on average lower because cars were getting lower during the 1950s and 60s, and as the German economy revived, the proportion of people driving passengers cars (rather than generally taller trucks and vans) would have been increasing steadily. Even if they weren't all driving Mercedes 190 SLs and Porsche 356s.

Charles01 (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Dulce de leche, that's what your grandfather ate, fascinating your family tree, maybe our grandfathers crisscrossed each other somewhere, my family immigrated in the 1900's, i was raised up, of all places, you know where, but with a twist though, in a predominally German neighbourhood, next to predominally British neighbourhood, (next station up), in an ocean of Italians, while being a smaller group traditions froze in time, and as youth, we both intermingled in our affairs, great parties we had, those where the days, and great they where. Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 18:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good. No wonder his wife was diagnosed with diabetes many decades before the condition became so endemic (or at least so widely diagnosed).

Argentina is interesting from here in terms of the extent to which the different European cultural identities having been retained. I wonder if that's because of the size of the country and the way the population was dispersed by the richness of the agricultural potential. If you live in so much space maybe you don't need to learn the languages and cultural habits of other groups, and I guess the rural agrarian basis of much of the economy right through much of the twentieth century left large chunks of the population more spread out than in those countries such as Chile or Australia where, despite the beauty of the countryside, almost everyone lived in one of just a few cities. Really as you can doubtless see,it's not something I know a whole lot about, but I remember my surprise when someone told me that Welsh cultural identity is more vigorous in Patagonia than in ... um ... Wales. No idea if that's true or not. No idea how you'd prove it anyhow. But I find it significant that someone even made the suggestion. Charles01 (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Ey Charles01, very busy at this time of year, will get back likely before years end, Happy Holidays - Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 03:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

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