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emporis.com[edit]

i'll re-word things that i get from external sources, ok? i'll just need time. Raccoon FoxTalkStalk 15:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

"Expounding on Lansingite"[edit]

Following the 1st of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia, I believe people being called "Lansingites" is a matter of opinion and is indiscriminate trivia. --Lugnut215 21:00, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

hollow threats[edit]

first off, i gave emporis as my source. i don't give in to hallow threats, so leave me alone. I have a life outside of the internet. go ahead and delete all you want if that gets you off. i just hope that doesn't make you look too immature. besides, you never specified how you want me to re-write them. so go and nominate everything for deletion, and i'll counter with a speedy keep for every single one RaccoonFoxTalkStalk 02:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleted page "Hotel Pontchartrain (2nd nomination)"[edit]

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Re: Deleting Pages[edit]

Criticalthinker wrote:

Hello,
You recently deleted my nomination for the Hotel Pontchartrain in Detroit. Now, I've been here for quite some time, but I find this process a bit overwhelming, and I'm unable where I've made my mistake in nominating the page for deletion? I've read the deletion pages, but can't figure out how to get the reason to show for why I nominated a page for deletion. The fact is many people have expressed interest in ridding us of the ridiculous skyscraper pages for Detroit, of which he makes pages for the smallest and most insignificant of Detroit high-rises. Help! --Criticalthinker 08:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, apologies for the confusion; I should have explained more thoroughly. It looks like you've figured it out now, anyway. What happened was you created a page at Hotel Pontchartrain (2nd nomination) – since this doesn't start with "Wikipedia:", you were effectively starting a new article called "Hotel Pontchartrain (2nd nomination)", which obviously we don't need. Deletion discussion pages should be named "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/" followed by the name of the page. The quickest way to nominate an article for deletion is to add {{subst:afd}} to the article, save the page, then click the "Preloaded debate" link at the bottom of the notice – this will bring up the correct page along with instructions on what to do next – Gurch 13:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of North Carolina Tower Chapel Hill[edit]

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Jackson, Michigan[edit]

Hello, I'm a Wikipedian from Jackson. The history section is a good idea. I'm going home for winter break on Tuesday, and I plan on expanding that section using a book I have on the history of Jackson (we need some references on that page). I'm hoping to model this page after Ann Arbor, Michigan, a current featured article. Hopefully we can eventually make Jackson an FA as well. Do you have any other ideas? Dafoeberezin3494 15:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, some of the most important things the FA people are looking for right now are making sure articles are NPOV, and that articles have refs + inline citations. I've never written one myself, so I'm not sure what else they will look for. Anyway, thanks again for the chart and if you have any other ideas, add them to the page. Happy editing! Dafoeberezin3494 03:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


Critical --

I sent an email to Ella Sharp, asking for some help on the history section. I added the motor sports section tonite. Judging by the clump of "edit" tags, I fear I might've messed up the formatting tho. Tim Wohlford, Jackson.

Twohlford 05:00, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Spring Arbor, Michigan vs. Spring Arbor, Michigan (CDP)[edit]

You may post on my user page if you wish about the CDP issue. I'm really interested in understanding how the SA CDP article vs. the SA Community article confuses you. I'm completely open to comment, but I still object to merging the CDP article with the Community article simply because the two are not the same.
I see that you are form Jackson, which is near to Spring Arbor. The best regional comparison I can give is that the community of Jackson is not the same as the "City of Jackson." Jackson extends beyond this area into Blackman, Summit and Leoni Townships. The "community" of Jackson fits this concept, however the "City of Jackson" obviously does not. The Spring Arbor, Michigan (CDP) is comparable to the area immediately surrounding the City of Jackson's DDA. Obviously "Jackson" includes more than just the DDA. Likewise, it would not make sense to say that Jackson, Michigan includes only the City of Jackson, Michigan (referring to the municipality); it includes the actual community. The Spring Arbor, Michigan (CDP) was specifically designated to give statistics specific to the area immediately surrounding Spring Arbor University.
If the statistics for the Jackson Downtown Development Authority were merged with the Jackson, Michigan article as if the Jackson, Michigan article referred to the DDA, it would not make sense. The Jackson, Michigan article does not refer specifically to the DDA of Jackson; it refers to a much larger area. This closely parallels on the same level as is currently being proposed by merging the CDP article with the community article, as would be the case if one were to suggest merging the Jackson DDA with the Jackson, Michigan article. Please let me know what objections you have that confuse you about the current article. I'm willing to work out a wording that will fit both your understanding and my own local understanding. mdkarazim 03:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Help on Ogg[edit]

You are not very clear. What operating system are you on? What kind of software did you try? And more importantly what kind of Ogg files did you try to play? Audio? Video? Mixed?

I'll assume you are on Windows, and trying to play a video. You should install illi's codecs as mentioned on the steps in the page. Then you open your Direct Show player (I assume it's WMP), and drag and drop the file into it.--Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 11:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

If you want a media player that can play literally every format on the planet without having to install additional codecs, I highly recommend VideoLAN [1]. When you install VideoLAN, if you tick 'ActiveX plugin' and 'Mozilla plugin' (for Firefox browser, which I recommend [2]), then when you click on an OGG file on Wikipedia, it will play it within your web browser. Otherwise, when you click on an OGG file it will open it in a seperate VLC player window. Madder 21:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I just wnat to play it in Windows Media Player, and even after installing the codecs provided in the "help" page for ogg it still didn't work in WMP when just clicking on ogg here at wikipedia an expecting it to open my WMP. --Criticalthinker 21:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Again I recommend VLC, but if you want to use WMP, you need to install the Windows Media Player plugin for Ogg vorbis - see [3]. If you right-click the link to an OGG vorbis file on Wikipedia, choose Save as, save the file, then start WMP and attempt to open the file, does it play? And which version of WMp are you using? Madder 21:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Carrying on. After you install illi's codecs, the next step is to make WMP the default player for all Ogg files. What you need to do, is save one Ogg file to the disk (video or audio), right click on it, choose Open With, Choose Program, then scan the software list for WMP, and before you click the OK button, tick on the check box "Make this application the default one for this file type", or some similar option (it shouldn't be hard to find). From then one, every Ogg file should open by default on WPM.

If you find these tips useful, you may want to help other people in the future, who may have difficulties with Ogg files. It's your choice, though.--Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 14:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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RE Village_pump[edit]

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Malta height[edit]

I've added a link. Cheers. Marcus1234 06:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

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Why you should not replace Cavelaars et al 2000[edit]

Since he removed the Chinese source because it is Chinese, lets remove foreign language sources such as French, Finnish, Swedish, etc., and replace them with outdated English sources. Keep only the English sources such as the OUTDATED Cavelaars et al 2000.Unfreeride 15:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? --Criticalthinker 23:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Campus Martius[edit]

While I haven't seen anything that says specifically that Campus Martius Park is 'city-owned', the Conservancy section of the park's website says the Detroit 300 Conservancy is "responsible for management, maintenance and operation of the Park under a long term operating agreement with the City of Detroit." If the park was privately owned, it would seem such an agreement would need to be with the person or company that owns it, not the City. Also, under the history section of that site, the references to Dennis Archer, Kwame Kilpatrick, and the City Council says to me that this was very much a city project, although like many park projects, it was funded by private donations. While none of these are conclusive, it seems it would be more likely that this is city-owned than private.--Scottr76 14:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I have emailed Robert Gregory, President of the Detroit 300 Conservancy, at the email address listed on the site's 'Staff' page. I'll share the response with you when I receive it.--Scottr76 21:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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Chilean population updates[edit]

Hi Criticalthinker.

I've noted that you've made some updates to populations in several Chilean settlements, however, you haven't cited your sources. Most of the articles refer to the 2002 census which although is dated, is published and readily available.

One of the biggest weaknesses of many articles on Chile is their lack of documented sources. If you have reliable recognized sources for your updates, I'd encourage you to cite them in the articles you edit, even if the previous version didn't have specific citations -- this will help improve the quality of each article. Thanks --JAXHERE | Talk 15:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

I'll site them, but as you already said, the official 2002 is easily accessible. I thought it enough to simply say that it was from the 2002 Census. --Criticalthinker 20:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:List_of_policies#Content_and_Style is the ultimate word on this. Put into practice, the more we can cite sources, the better the article will be. Even though a source may be readily availble, we are assuming that every reader of each article knows this and where to find it if we don't include it. It's hard to add a source to material in an existing article because you're not the one putting it in, but it would be a great habit to cite sources when adding or updating an article. --JAXHERE | Talk 15:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Lincoln Park, Michigan[edit]

You recently changed the population density on this article. However, 44,008/5.8= 7587 as originally shown, not 6834. I am missing something? Rmhermen 19:33, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Found the problem with this one. Arkyan mistakenly changed the population to 44008 instead of 40008 when he/she put the geobox in the article. Rmhermen 02:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Huron Charter Township[edit]

What is the menaing of your edit to this page. "Metro: 386.2" What could this refer to? Rmhermen 19:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Grosse Ile Township, Michigan[edit]

Your edit to this article appears to be incorrect (by 0.4 people/sq.km) but more importantly is introducing far to many significant figures to this number. I reduced it to 4 figures although really it should only show 2 or 3 because of the limit of accuracy of the land area figure. Rmhermen 19:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Where are you sourcing this information from? "And, just so you know, population density is given in every articles "geography" sections, which takes into account the entire land area to the nearest acre, so it is much, much more accurate than simply taking the density to the nearest tenth of a square mile." Wikipedia articles do not list down to the acre. Rmhermen 22:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The infobox on Acapulco[edit]

I don't see any problem; the word 'Municipality' is only used twice, and each time it's used as a one-word heading for a row (and so no nobr is needed). Am I missing something? --ais523 08:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

There's still no visible problem for me; it's probable that the problem only shows up with certain browser settings for things like font sizes, and such problems have been known to happen only on certain browsers too (I'm using Firefox 2 at the moment). You might want to mention this on the technical village pump; the regulars there are better at both finding the problem and figuring out how to fix it than I would be just by myself, as with more people looking into it there's more of a chance that the exact problems causing the conditions will be reproduced. --ais523 08:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Removing references from the infoboxes[edit]

Please do not remove the references from the infobox. We should never just assume that the Infobox information is assumed to be correct, as you put it. Anyone can say anything. Please familiarize yourself with WP:REF and WP:VERIFY.

If the references are placed inappropriately in the infobox, please try to move them to the appropriate "footnotes" fields (e.g., government_footnotes). This will help unclutter the infobox.

Also, please familiarize yourself with the all parameter field names at {{Infobox Settlement}} (aka Infobox City). As some of your edits to the infoboxes were mislabeling the fields. The first field in the "leader" section is leader_title and leader_name. Then followed by leader_title1 and leader_name1,...2...3,.

All of your edits seemed to be in goodfaith and added some useful information; therefore I only reverted the parts of your edits that were incorrect. Regards, —MJCdetroit 13:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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Sterling Heights, MI[edit]

What gave you a right to remove this from the article? "There is a large Chaldean community situated in an area bound by 15 and 17 Mile Roads, between Dequindre and Mound Roads. The area also includes a small number of ethnic Arabs." Sharru Kinnu III (talk) 21:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Human Height[edit]

Hi, do you know how to block a page for esditing by IP? I think, we need to do this because the Human Height page is always be vandalize! You can help me? italodal 19:00, 09 March 2008 (UTC)

Kilpatrick's[edit]

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Attack through knowingly false vandalism claims[edit]

Your afd was deliberately disruptive and your false vandalism allegations merely demonstrated your bad faith. Please desist from bad behaviour that bring you and the project into disrepute in the future, i do not appereciate being attacked in this way by you. Thanks, SqueakBox 02:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Delhi[edit]

The commonly tabulated figure for the "city" of Delhi by Census India is only the urban part. If you are going to use the 1397 sq km figure, I think you should be able to simply subtract off the other two municipalities (303263 + 124917) from the state figure. --Polaron | Talk 00:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that World Gazetteer uses the urban part of the municipality (which is what Census India actually tabulates) as the basis for its estimates. I suppose we could simply use its estimate for the state and substract its estimates for the two other municipalities. --Polaron | Talk 00:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

world's largest conurbations[edit]

At User talk:Polaron#Delhi Inquiry, you said "The area of the Delhi Municipal Corporation isn't so large that we should use anything less than that municipal boundary. If you'd like to add the urban area, you can add that to the page of the world's largest conurbations." Where's the page of the world's largest conurbations? The closest I've been able to find is List of conurbations in the United Kingdom. Toliar (talk) 19:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Toliar (talk) 00:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Capital Region International Airport[edit]

Sorry, it was accidental

I've been migrating these templates (done over 2000, and nearly complete now), and I will have made some minor mistakes. The templates are deprecated, and have been replaced, so there was no need to revert it all, as you can see from my last edit on it, it only needed the image adding to the new infobox.

With such variation in the formatting of the old infoboxes (images in various parameters, different templates etc), i have done it semi-automatedly to try and reduce errors as much as possible, rather than, say, getting a bot to do this. Trying to make sure anything that wasnt automatically moved, that i moved it myself.

Reedy 09:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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List of Michigan Airports[edit]

Hello. A response to the question you posted at User talk:Zyxw#List of Michigan Airports has been added in that section of my talk page. -- Zyxw (talk) 04:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Sarajevo[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your edit to Sarajevo because it made me realise that the population source could be used for the population of the four municipalities that make up the city. It also made me realise that the canton and the urban area are probably not the same thing. Do you know which municipalities make up the urban area? The article suggests that it's Centar, Novi Grad, Novo Sarajevo and Stari Grad (the city proper), plus Ilidža and Vogošća. Do you know if this is correct? Cordless Larry (talk) 08:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the area of the municipalities because I can't find a source stating that. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Your revision did was not supported by linked citation.[edit]

Your revision to the Statewide opinion polling for the United States presidential election, 2008 giving Ralph Nader 6% in the latest CNN/Time poll was not supported by the linked article so it has been reverted. Before adding minor party candidates in the poll listings, make sure that the cited report specifically lists what percentage each candidate gets. The linked article in question combined minor party candidates without listing what each minor party candidate got. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

The Time Magazine link worked when I tried it. But the point is that the poll listings must be backed up by the linked article. If it's in the alternate link you used, then you must include that article's link on the table. Steelbeard1 (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

It does not. The quoted material states:

In New Hampshire and Michigan, both states won by John Kerry in 2004, Obama is leading McCain 51% to 45% and 49% to 45% respectively. When Libertarian candidate Bob Barr and Independent Ralph Nader are added in, Obama's lead narrows in Michigan to 45% to 42% and just slightly in New Hampshire to 48% to 43%.

The link is at http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1840327,00.html Steelbeard1 (talk) 23:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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Delhi[edit]

I just reverted your change for the area of Delhi at List of urban areas by population. The area you listed is definitly not for the Municipal Corporation of Delhi, although I can't say where your figures of 1,397.2 sq.km comes from. It would be great if you can provide a source for that figure. The 431 sq.km is the area of the Municipal Corporation of Delhi at the 2001 population census. This is excluding all the other cities, towns and other smaller administrative units within the urban agglomeration, and the rest of the National Capital Territory - and, believe me, there are many of these units in the NCT others than the Delhi MC! I can't say if there has been any administrative changes after that, but it doesn't matter in this case anyway as the 11.3 million population figure for Delhi is a computation based on 2001 census results. So, that's why the given area must also be based on the 2001 administrative boundaries, whatever changes in the administrative boundaries that's happened after that.--Pjred (talk) 12:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Gross metropolitan product[edit]

My pleasure. It's good to be able to fix things that are wrong. I'll keep it watchlisted to make sure nobody fools around with it :-) AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 18:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Image[edit]

It looks like you didn't choose an option on the "Licensing" drop-down menu, but to be honest I've seen so many glitches with the File Upload page recently that it could've been anything ... Black Kite 10:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

American Heights[edit]

You say that those extra links use the same source, but all of the measurements from those studies are different. Secondly, though the article itself came out recently, the data that they're listing is older than what's already being used. Lastly, there are already five accurate heights listed for Americans; why are you so interested in adding some more? Besides China's listings, which I also think is ridiculous, no other country has that many. Most people come here to get a relatively solid answer, and all of the heights you're trying to add is just contradictory to the offical heights. I really think you should consider what the other reader said, and put the extra American heights in their own box. Besides, there is a linked page that is specifically for Race and Height.--Ssk7 (talk) 04:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, this is getting a little extreme. I'm not trying to be an ass, and I hope I'm not coming off as one. I think both of our goals is to make Wikipedia better, right? Well, I understand why you want multiple sources, but my concern is that the page will get cluttered. Even though it's technically one source listed as of now, it gives all of the essential information. The section that is seriously in need of more is the "race and height" area. It's a stub, which surprises me, because a lot of people are interested in that. That's why I suggested you put it there. That section really needs it, where as the section you're trying to add it to is pretty sufficient. Check it out, and see what I'm talking about. It's a section or two below the main chart. :)--Ssk7 (talk) 05:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I edited the American heights with the new data. For the individual races, I used the 20-39 data, instead of the 20 and over data. I did this, because most people are interested in the "new" adults so to speak. For the all American data, however, I used the 20-29 data and 20 and over data. This will show a good contrast between the youth of America, and the overall population.--Ssk7 (talk) 23:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

The 20+ years old data in the survey tend to be more accurate because it has larger sample sizes and much smaller margin of errors, plus is should give a more accurate picture of each population as a whole. The ethnic populations sample sizes in each age category are not that big, hence they have larger margins of error. When all the sample sizes for the different age ranges are added up in the 20+ year category in each race group, it creates a larger sample which naturally has a smaller margin of error hence more realible. The 20-39, 40-64 and 65+ ages categories are sub sections of the 20+ section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.25.195 (talk) 22:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean, because at the end of the day, the younger generation data, while maybe less reliable than that of the main source, is still just as reliable if not more so than the younger generation data for other country heights on the page. The fact of the matter is that we will keep it included as we try to find at least two major heights for each nation: the entire adult population and then the younger adult population. --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I see your point, then we should do the populations for the adult population(20+) by race too just like for the young population. But that will leave it too cluttered. I always believed that the main point is the average height of the population as whole. So I think we should focus of that mainly, but this does not mean we should neglect the younger population. I propose we we include the average of 20+ heights by race and then one of All americans 20-39. That way we focus on the main general population but also have a segment dedicated to the younger population.

The main section of the study was about the average height of the population as a whole. The 20-39 population is a sub section of that main section. Why are we dedicating three sections for the 20-39 populations and only one for the 20+ section. I understand that we should not ignore the young population, but dedicating three sections to it compared to just one section for the entire adult population seems wrong. Most people come to see the average height of the population not just a sub section of that population. The study takes the results of all three age sections when it calculated the average height of each population. [Nes] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seaeagle800 (talkcontribs) 09:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Chinese Heights[edit]

Okay, I was wondering if you wanted to do something about the Chinese heights. They have four different soucres, and eight heights listed. It's really hard to get a sense of the average height when you're looking at all of those numbers. Which source seem the most reliable to you?--Ssk7 (talk) 16:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, the more I look at it, it's quite clear which ones can go. There are old heights listed with the new heights, which is not needed. I'm editing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssk7 (talkcontribs) 16:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I actually deleted one of the more recent Chinese heights, because when I went to the source, it wasn't even an official study, but an estimate. What's left on the page is the most accurate AND recent sources. --Ssk7 (talk) 16:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

What is up with the Chinese heights? Everytime I remove one, somebody comes along and adds them all back. There is seriously no reason to have eights heights for one country, no matter how large it is. We have have five listed, and we're called the freaking melting pot. China is homogeneous, so what's the point? Who is that person? Have you incountered him/her before?

Human Heights[edit]

I think adding the additional heights for South Africa is a great idea. However, instead of the listing that says "coloured", I would use mixed, which is the same thing. I say this, because if you put coloured on there, it will be vandalized, even though that's how the article lists it. It's really not worth starting an edit war over, so using "mixed" would be a small concession. What do you think?--Ssk7 (talk) 05:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Take a look at the Indonesian heights. One of them is Self-reported, and for people fifty and over. Do you really think that listing is necessary considering we have measured data for the younger generation?--Ssk7 (talk) 06:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I've already commented on the South African heights above. But, take a look at a few of the men's heights. There has been some hell of a vandalism going on, and I can't fix it all. I don't have te time. But, it's ridiculous.--Ssk7 (talk) 17:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, I figured out who did it, and manually changed it.--Ssk7 (talk) 17:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, why didn't you add the South African heights you discovered?--Ssk7 (talk) 14:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

0_0 I meant discovered as in found, located, etc... Anyway, I did check them out, and they seem fine. I don't know why someone would delete them.--Ssk7 (talk) 19:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Lansing, Michigan vandalism[edit]

I did not try to undo the vandalism there, as it was so pervasive that a revert was necessary. He did a lot of mischief on a lot of other pages (which I undid), with the exception of Grand Rapids, Michigan, which was also buggered up. I'm with you that a block on User:Calebrod3294 (Talk is in order, but I'm no admin either. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Stan

FYI, he's been indefinitely blocked. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC) Stan

London[edit]

Hi, I don't really use wikipedia much, so sorry if this is the wrong place to write to you.

I'm pretty sure that the population of the City of London is 7000 and that Greater London is a ceremonial county, much in the same way that the West Midlands is a ceremonial county - with a population of 3,683,000 - which means that it too should be considered for the list surely? It too is governed by one ruling council with various different local councils, much in the same way as Greater London.

Oh and the figure that you have written down for the population of Greater London is wrong anyway; it's more like 14,000,000+ seeing as the metropolitan population of London is 13,709,000[1] and the remainder of Greater London (Westminster, The City, Temple, Biggin Hill, Wooking, Dartford, Hemel Hempstead, Slough, Luton, Potters Bar etc) are all contained within Greater London and all contribute to the population; the population of the City of Westminster is 234,000 on its own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.234.143 (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

titles[edit]

An admin thought that the MSA/CSA titles were a bit ambigous, and the metro and region were better choice of headings, so they were changed to metro and region as a result of a compromise at city guidlines. Thanks for understanding. Atlanta does use region for CSA in the table. Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 23:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

The idea seemed to be the abbreviations MSA/CSA are unknown to some and potentially ambiguous. I'm fine with calling them MSA and CSA or Metro and Region, but the admin person preferred Metro and Region as being more clear than an abbreviation. I'll post the discussion on the template discussion page and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/Guideline for a while and see if there are any objections to calling it MSA and CSA again or we could place MSA and CSA in the bottom footnote and leave Metro and Region at the top.Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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Human height article[edit]

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what are you the wikipolice? Seems to me you are only a sensor who will try to silence people, people are welcome to their opinions, and by the way, my opinions are not vandalism, they are the truth, the cold hard truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakersw22 (talkcontribs)

Reporting edit warrior we are dealing with[edit]

See [6] as I've reported the edit warrior we've been battling in the Michigan gubernatorial election, 2010 article. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I can add this (which I did not mention in my reply below your message to me) that the administrator blocked for 48 hours the three IP addresses the troll used. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Borough in New York[edit]

Hi, I saw your post from October in the discussion for the article Administrative divisions of New York. As far as I can tell, the definition given regarding New York municipal law is erroneous and unsourced. The boroughs were specifically set up to be sub-divisions of New York City. In fact, when the boroughs were first created, Queens County contained the Borough of Queens as well as several towns that did not join the city. Also, the boroughs of Manhattan and the Bronx were part of the same county until 1914. So no, a borough is not 'the merger of all towns within a county.' A borough is a unique entity set up only for the city of New York. 98.221.124.80 (talk) 11:45, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Gutchess Metropolitan Business College[edit]

Hello, Please explain why this was removed from the Metro Detroit page. Another editor change the redirect from Gutchess Metropolitan Business College to point here which is unhelpful if no information is given at the end. What is said about the college is supported by 3 citations.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

That section is obviously for existing colleges and universities. If even Gutchess was still in operation, it'd have still been inappropriate to add details next to it, as no other university gets its own explanation. It's about consistency, plain and simple. Not sure why you are even messing with that page to begin with. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Everyone acting in good faith is free to edit.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 11:08, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
True. You made a mistake, and it was corrected. No worries. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Fort William, Scotland[edit]

I agree that the previous wording was strange and rather POV, but actually your new version doesn't quite work. The reason is that Inverness is a city, not a town (in Britain the difference is important) and so "second largest town ... after the town of Inverness" is not accurate. I'll see if I can think of a better way to put it than the original POV version, but that's still accurate. Loganberry (Talk) 00:04, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

East Lansing (Amtrak)[edit]

I appreciate your concern over the obvious discrepency in ridership numbers between the MDOT source and the Great American Stations source. I've received complaints each year I've posted new ridership numbers in Michigan, and only Michigan. Henceforth, Michigan can take care of its own ridership numbers! According to MDOT's website, "Data in this report may differ from similar Amtrak reports due to differences in the way MDOT and Amtrak treat data not specifically attributed to individual stations..." I assume this is our culprit.

Also, I would hardly call the MDOT numbers "better sourced". Great American Stations is a program run by Amtrak, and Amtrak is the operator of intercity rail services in Michigan, not the MDOT. I would suggest the G.A.S. numbers are "better sourced". That said, you should feel free to change the data I have listed (in Michigan) if you so desire. I understand and thank you for your concerns. Cranboy (talk) 01:57, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


No worries, I didn't read it that way. On a lighter note, I really need to spend some time figuring these Talk pages out! Cranboy (talk) 02:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

United State Senate election in Michigan, 2012[edit]

Please monitor the United States Senate election in Michigan, 2012 article as someone is trying to sneak in an uncited minor candidate without a citation to support its inclusion. Steelbeard1 (talk) 15:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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The government and constituencies in the assembly[edit]

I didn't make myself clear, noone has to resign before the legislative election. I forgot to tell you that the 2012 French legislative election will take place in less than a month. All the ministers who were deputy before being chosen as minister by the prime minister (himself chosen by the president) are of course still deputy until that election. If one decide to run for the legislative election and finally lose his assembly seat then he kind of lose his legitimacy and will have to resign as minister. That is because prime minister Ayrault has lately insisted on that usage, but as far as I know it is not a rule. I don't know if the opposite ever happened but I don't think so, they usually resign without any problem. The paradox is that if she/he actually wins her/his seat, he has to resign immediately as deputy in favour of his substitute deputy because of the separation of powers. I'm sorry for my rather unclear explanation, I hope you understand a bit better but France's political system is a little complicated and as you can guess English is not my first language. Skull33 (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, you don't need to be a deputy for being chosen as minister. It can be anyone, and usually it is mostly the president's closest partners during the campaign or his political life. In summary : if a minister do not run for a constituency, he usually keeps being a minister ; if he runs for his constituency and loses, he almost always resigns as minister ; and if he runs for his constituency and wins, he must chose between either becoming/remainaing a deputy or remaining a minister (he generally chose the latter).
In the coming assembly elections, the PS will try to secure a majority in order to be able to apply their policies easily. If the UMP wins the election, the president will be forced to name a prime minister that will be acceptable to the UMP within parliament. This is called cohabition. In that case, the role of the president is very reduced. The goal for the PS is of course to get an absolute majority so that they can make all the laws the want, but if they get a simple majority which is very likely, all the current government will resign and a new government will be formed by Hollande and the prime minister (either the same or another one) right after the election taking into account the configuration of the assembly (the others left-wing parties such as the Front de Gauche) in order to form alliances within the assembly if necessary. In summary : either the PS wins and are able to do whatever they want, or the PS wins a simple majority only and would restructure the government, or they lose and there is a situation of cohabitation where all is stucked. Skull33 (talk) 12:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Exactly. This means of course that almost nothing can be voted until the legislative election and the victory of the left since the UMP is predominant within the assembly for now. Skull33 (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

RE: Metropolitan Municipality[edit]

Hallo

Thanks for writing! I did not fully understand your remark. Actually, I reverted the data about Istanbul at the List of cities proper by population list since this deals with "city proper", while the new data refer to Istanbul's "büyükşehir", that is the "metropolitan city". As a matter of fact, the definition of city proper at the beginning of the list ("an urban locality without its suburbs") does not match with the actual "Istanbul büyükşehir belediyesi", which contains large areas which are not inhabited, since they are devoted to agriculture, or woods, etc. . I think that these data should go into the Metropolitan areas list. Am I wrong? Alex2006 (talk) 08:57, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not notice that the other user corrected the definition and the area. now I understand what you meant. I reintroduced the correct data (although, i continue to think that does not make any sense to have such data in this list, since in this way we are comparing apples with pears :-) . Bye Alex2006 (talk) 09:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Hallo Criticalthinker,
no, I understood very well. What I don't understand is the reason why we have a list with heterogeneous data. "Istanbul büyükşehir belediyesi" (English:"Istanbul metropolitan municipality") is not a city, is a (loose) agglomeration. You can look at the article about City proper, where also Istanbul is mentioned , and is clearly stated, that "...for some large cities, such as Istanbul or Ankara, only agglomeration data are given". The agglomeration IS the "büyükşehir belediyesi", which is not the city, but city + suburbs + towns + forests etc. etc, this means, the former Istanbul Province. I think that the problem arise because in this list there is the attempt to apply worldwide what is a local (U.S.? ) concept. Alex2006 (talk) 12:51, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, discussion is the salt of life. :-) The cities in Istanbul Province are towns, which now are part of a district of "Istanbul büyükşehir". A district (Turkish: ilçe) is a subdivision of a province, but in case of Istanbul (and of the others - I think 15 - büyükşehirlar in Turkey) is also a primary subdivision of a "büyükşehir". A district can be subdivided into one of more municipalities (Turkish: belediye). Moreover, among the municipalities it existes a "supermunicipality" called "Istanbul büyükşehir belediyesi", which controls the metropolitan city. "Urban" districts (as Bakirköy) have usually only a municipality, while "rural" districts, as Çatalca, have usually more than one. I suspect that data about Istanbul as "city" (as it was described in the previous version of the list) was obtained grouping the "urban" districts, while now the whole metropolitan area (urban + rural districts) is considered. The problem is that I don't know whether the Tüik or Istanbul itself has an official statistical designation for the "mostly contiguous, settled/developed area" of Istanbul (that is, the urban districts). This - if existing - would be a good definition of Istanbul as city proper. I hope that I could explain the case of Istanbul. Alex2006 (talk) 11:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Luanda[edit]

You registered the administrative division in the article on Luanda (city). Don't you think it shoud be registered in the article on Luanda (Province)? -- Aflis (talk) 11:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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(Subject) considers X versus X is considered by[edit]

Hi! I looked at this old edit - I think the reason why I structured the sentence in the manner I did is because I remembered some English teachers saying that active tense is preferable in English to passive tense

Maybe it's something to ask a reference desk? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Corrections[edit]

Sure! I'll be happy to list city facilities. News articles will help a lot if there's a transition going on WhisperToMe (talk) 04:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

  • I did a google site search for "jail" and "prison on detroitmi.gov and it didn't turn up info on correctional facilities operated by the city WhisperToMe (talk) 04:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

CATA[edit]

Now that you ask me, I found that imfo on a page about Cata's new bus shed. 35.11.55.167 (talk) 20:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Of it[edit]

See the last discussion in the below link (I don't know how to link directly to a discussion or I would). The removal of "of it" from the standard geography sentence has been discussed. I don't know why you put it back in after I deleted it, but you seem to be the gate keeper for Lansing so I'm not going to touch it again you can either remove it or leave depending on how you feel after reading the discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline Jamo2008 (talk) 02:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

I reverted the entire edit, but all I really wanted reverted was placing the Census Bureau's 2011 municipal-level population estimates in the infobox, since the Census has warned, itself, that the 2011 sub-county estimates aren't to be taken as legitimate estimates, and that they'll have their formula reworked for the release of the 2012 numbers in July. I have no problem with the "of it" wording. If you'd like to change that back, that'd be great. --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:56, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
I saw you undid the bot one so I went in and deleted the of it, you then proceeded to turn right around and stick it back in so I assumed you had an issue with me getting rid of that as well. If you haven't changed it by the time I'm done typing this I'll go ahead and delete it. As far as the estimates go it's my bot sticking them in so I obviously have no problem with them. I have to correct a bug with the auto generated demographic info, so I've been adding the estimates while doing that, note Lansing doesn't use my auto generated content so only the estimate was added. If you don't want it on Lansing that's fine, but I encourage you not to undo it from other cites. They are estimates and are put in the estimate field I think most people know to take it with a grain of salt, and all in all I think almost all of them are probably correct about the general direction of the population in a given place either growing or falling. Also the 2012 estimates come out in May and every place my bot updates now with the 2011 estimates can be automatically updated as soon as they come out, so every time one gets deleted or tampered with just adds more work for me in the future. Jamo2008 (talk) 03:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Didn't read all of that - I'm not sure it's necessary - but the "double edit" I did was an accident. The edit didn't load the first time, so I simply hit back on my browser and forgot exactly was being changed. It (the second edit) was completely inadverdent. Okay, just went and read the whole post. I'd simply advise against using the bot for population estimates until the 2012 estimates, but that's just my advice. Not a big fan of bots, myself, though, since they reduce flexibility in editing. (Criticalthinker (talk) 03:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC))
Waiting till 2012 was the original plan, but I have to go back over all 7700 cities I've updated to 2010 data to fix a bug, so by adding the 2011 estimates now while doing that I can save myself hours of trouble in May when the 2012 estimates come out. Also it should prevent cities from ending up like this Tacoma Washington were people delete the official 2010 population and replace it with the 2011 estimates. I'd estimate about 200 pages out of the 7700 I've updated have had this done to them. Jamo2008 (talk) 03:34, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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saidly my source on that, Romig's Michigan Place Names, does not provide any futher information to specify where in the township it was.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:50, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Demographics[edit]

I'll split it off into another article: Demographics of Metro Detroit. That way the growth goes into its own page. Maybe it'll encourage similar pages for other metro areas. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

By the way, a similar page would be Demographics of Houston which I worked on. The reason why the data is from the 2000 census is because secondary sources haven't yet released summary documents of 2010 data in the way that the 2004 documents from Wayne State did. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:31, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Metropolitan Municipality Delhi[edit]

The Municipal Corporation of Delhi, does not have an area of 1,397.3 km². Show proof! site-ul? censusindia.gov.in (final) -> The Municipal Corporation of Delhi [NCT OF DELHI (8 districts 1448 km/2 + New Delhi, capital of India 35 km/2) have an area of 1483 km²]; 16787941 Persons (Density of population per sq.km 11320); Growth Rate 2001-2011 = 21.2%; 3435999 Number of Households; Rural = 79574 (Growth Rate 2001-2011= -55.06%)/Urban = 3356425 (Growth Rate 2001-2011= 26.8%); 53.53% (Males)/46.47% (Females); /// -> Office of the Registrar General and Census Commissioner: The city proper Delhi have an area of 431.09 km² (11 million people). The NCT and its urban region have been given the special status of National Capital Region (NCR) under the Constitution of India's 69th amendment act of 1991. A union territory, the political administration of the NCT of Delhi today more closely resembles that of a state of India, with its own legislature, high court and an executive council of ministers headed by a Chief Minister. New Delhi is jointly administered by the federal government of India and the local government of Delhi, and is the capital of the NCT of Delhi. Delhi is India's only city-state.If you want the metropolitan area (1483 km²) then there are 17 million people. If to take into account "special metropolitan" there are many cities Shanghai 6340 km², Istanbul 5343 km/2, Kinshasa 9965 km/2, Pyongyang 3194 km/2 etc. Many Governments are just statistics to the city, but other Governments make the metropolitan area only. This is a list of cities without suburbs (other cities). In many cities, the population is reported to the metropolitan area, because the Governments do not give statistics at city alone. If the city of Delhi has 1483 km², there are many cities in this situation who are not listed in the list. Maybe wrong but I want to prove it with arguments, not opinions.--MIRAIL.MIHAI (talk) 03:04, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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