Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Christmas number one singles (UK)

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The list was promoted 20:12, 11 May 2008.

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List of Christmas number one singles (UK)

I've been working on this for a while now and I now think it meets all of the criteria for featured lists. It is as detailed as I think it can go without having too much information. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 19:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)

• Avoid bold linking in the lead per WP:LEAD#Bold title.
  • Done
• Some POV issues for me:
  • "getting the number one spot has always been an honour for both artists and record labels."
  • "Christmas has become a very commercial time in modern years"
  • "gaining a number one at this time is much more difficult than any other, and can be very competitive"
  • Done
• "also spent four years at the top" - not exactly, four Christmases at number one perhaps...
  • done
• Shouldn't "the Shadows" be "The Shadows"?
  • done
• "The Spice Girls managed to equal the record ..." just "...Girls equalled the record" is fine.
  • done
• "beginning 1996" - I'd say "from 1996 to 1998".
  • done
• "Many of the Christmas number ones were also the best-selling song of the year." - citation needed.
  • done
• Consider making the table sortable, no reason why it shouldn't be.
  • done
• Presumably Al Martino is the guy on the left? State that in the caption.
  • done
• Images should be sized per WP:MOS#Images using either just thumb (for landscape) or thumb and upright (for portrait).
  • Done
• "The song was not number one on Christmas Day but was still crowned the Christmas number one." - needs explanation.
  • done
• "Also reached number one in the United States." - as Christmas number one or just in general?
  • done
• The template suggests Xmas no. 1's started in 1950.
  • The template is wrong according to all sources I've encountered. The chart only began in 1952.

That's enough from me, right now a lot to do before I can support. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

More from TRM...

• Is Martino on the right? He's doing well if so...! I'd crop the image, it's PD.
  • Hah! Cropped and the caption was changed.
• "The official UK Singles Chart began in 1952" prove it.
  • Reffed.
• "and the positions of all songs are based on the sales over the week before; thus the Christmas number one is, on occasion, not at number one on Christmas Day." this still seems confusing to me. The Christmas No. 1 will always be the song which sold most units up to and including the Saturday/Sunday (don't know) before Christmas Day. Is that correct?
  • I've tried explaining further, please let me know if it's not enough.
• "one time each " - once each with...
  • Fixed.
• Now you've made the table sortable, relink all instances of The Beatles, Queen etc since they could appear in different orders.
  • done.
• Make Blobby's image upright since it's a portrait image.
  • Done.

That's about enough for round two! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

How many more rounds?=P weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment - Please delink individual years (its never correct) and make the number of weeks entries centralised. indopug (talk) 06:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• Not sure I agree with that - the years were linked to ... in music, not just the year itself, so I can't see a problem here. It's very common, used in sports lists a lot as well. Not sure it contravenes MOS either. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Yeh, I undid my revision. I didn't link it was necessary; I have done the other suggestion however. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 16:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• Support - major concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

• Gotta like any list with a picture of Mr Blobby!
  • Fixed.=P
• "The positions of all songs are based on week end sale totals, from Sunday to Saturday; thus the Christmas number one is, on occasion, not at number one on Christmas Day." Doesn't explain well enough. What day of the week would Xmas day fall on for a song not to number one on that day, but considered Xmas number 1? Give examples of songs that have done this
  • I don't understand this either; one source said that it has happened, although I can't see how, so I'll remove that for now.
• I'm sure that the charts were not always from Sunday to Saturday. I know that Radio 1 used to broadcast them on Wednesdays way back when, although that may not be related. So just check on that statement
  • I think the ref covers that.
• The Blobby caption says he's the only non-human to reach number 1, but I'd be very surprised if the cartoon character Bob the Builder suddenly started walking around the streets;)
  • Ok, fixed that. :)

-- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 04:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Neutral erring on the side of support. I can't give my support because I won't have internet access for the next 14 days to see out this nomination. Sorry. Hope my comments helped though. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 05:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

That they did. Thanks. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 14:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Comment - in the browser I'm using right now (Explorer), the images of Queen, Bob Geldof, and Cliff Richard overhang the table. - Marrio (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

That's because your image size default is too high (go to preferences to change it). I was advised to avoid forcing the image sizes, but thanks for bringing this up, Marrio. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 17:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Support - I see. Out of curiosity, why not force the image sizes? Marrio (talk) 18:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I could, it wouldn't do any harm. Thanks for the suggestion! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 18:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Why is your list not included in Template:UK Christmas No. 1s ?
• Of all artists and songs in the table, there is only one without an article. Could you create one?

The list looks fine to me. Good work. Support Baldrick90 (talk) 09:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

• • Thanks, done both of them. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 11:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

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