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October 29[edit]

Books/Games/Movies like Metal Gear Solid 2[edit]

Hello,

MGS2 offers serious mind-blowing philosophical stuffs you don't often expect from a video game. Just see this final conversation. I strongly suggest watching this video.

The story of the game is happening in an alternative history of the real world, where many real events also happened in the game. Y2K bug is an example of such events. For many of these events, an alternative backstory is presented, which is as reasonable as the "real" reason behind the event. In a sense, the game is indistinguishable from reality.

The game makes you "feel" its reality. You, the player, will become part of the story. The game breaks the forth wall very cleverly. For example, After Emma uploads a virus to destroy Arsenal Gear, the game starts showing fake "Game Over" pages, as if your gaming console is also affected by the virus.

Every entity in the game (persons, organizations, objects, etc) has a well-defined personality, backstory, motives and relationships with other entities. The booting process of the workstation in the tanker is similar to that of Linux or FreeBSD. The game (released in 2001) even anticipated ext4 filesystem (officially released in 2008).

I don't know exactly what I'm looking for, but I liked these aspects of the game. Any suggestion for other games/movies/books like this? -- 91.98.210.157 (talk) 22:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are many categories at the very bottom of the article. Some of them might be helpful. 136.56.52.157 (talk) 03:16, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may like The Peripheral, now being turned into a TV series. --Lambiam 17:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. I very much enjoyed reading Gibson's The Peripheral - I found it very engaging but complex, and ended up with ten pages of hand-written notes trying to keep track of who was who and what they did (or not). I am also enjoying the series so far - for me it exactly captures the overall feeling and settings of the novel. It necessarily simplifies the novel somewhat, which I you suggest read first. MinorProphet (talk) 11:25, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dialogue from Top Gun: Maverick[edit]

Transferred from Language desk for more input.

Maverick: "Comanche, dagger one. Standby check in."

Comanche: "Comanche 11, set. Picture clean. Recommend dagger continue."

What do "Standby check in", the number "11" and "set" mean in this case? --KnightMove (talk) 04:29, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Standby" means that there will be a brief pause - our procedure word article has "wait, over" which means pretty much the same thing. Presumably American pilots understand the rest. Alansplodge (talk) 17:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It might help if you tell us what is going on in the scene.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 19:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maverick is leading a strike pack of 4 F-18 jets (the "daggers") onto enemy territory. He calls the E-2 Hawkeye air control officer Comanche for analysis. No enemy activity is visible on radar ("picture clean"), which is why Comanche recommends the daggers should continue their mission. --KnightMove (talk) 20:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully "into" enemy territory. "Onto" would not be an ideal outcome. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:53, 30 October 2022 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks. Well, then he only brought his own plane "onto" enemy territory... --KnightMove (talk) 06:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Check in" in this context, means "what is your communication status on this channel?." I'm somewhat guessing that "11" is shorthand for "one by one", an old ('70s?) jargon meaning "I can both receive and transmit clearly on this channel" (assuming my memory serves me right; I haven't found a source to verify). "Set" simply means "everything's ready to go on this end." 136.56.52.157 (talk) 03:34, 31 October 2022 (UTC) . . . Edit: I delayed replying in the hope that somebody with better knowledge than mine would reply. I think that "one by one" was shorthand for something like "one-hundred percent signal for both receiving and transmitting", but I could be wrong.[reply]

Anyway it makes a lot of sense, thank you! --KnightMove (talk) 06:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the audio has "Comanche one one set". --Lambiam 09:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I did not imply it was pronounced "eleven". --KnightMove (talk) 09:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You might not have meant to imply that, but that is the natural interpretation of the way you typed it. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 11:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, by writing 'the number "11" ' you implied it was the decimal representation of the value of 10+1. --Lambiam 11:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Let's not be hard on the OP, who's not a native English speaker. No harm done, unlike in a film where one of two immigrant sisters asked her sibling to read out the note accompanying a prescription given her by her doctor. The note read "Do not take within 24 hours of [other medication the sister was taking]." The sibling read "Do not take within two to four hours", etc. The sister took the drug four hours after taking her other medication and died. 79.76.33.181 (talk) 14:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, since we're on the Entertainment desk, that was the story of an episode of the original series Law & Order. In the episode, the doctor who prescribed one of the medications was prosecuted, but charges were dropped when it became clear that the decedent had relied on the sister's incorrect translation of the label. (Sorry, I can't identify the specific episode.) --174.89.144.126 (talk) 21:34, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was Series 13 Episode 21 "House Calls". DuncanHill (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, well found. --174.89.144.126 (talk) 02:44, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Summary: "I hear you; let's go!" Or: "Ready, set, go!" 136.56.52.157 (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]