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Name of woman who demonstrated male body language[edit]
Google seems to be useless here. I saw a documentary about a woman who gave lectures on male body language and gathered up a dozen German women to participate in a social experiment, where they were made up as men for a week or so. There is even a Wikipedia article about her, but I cannot find it, because searching the internet with phrases like the header I wrote just lead nowhere. The Wikipedia categories are even worse when it comes to finding a specific person. Who was she? She might have been an artist, American, living in Europe, died a few years ago. 93.106.246.169 (talk) 14:58, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Marianne Wex fits in with some of your description. Could it be her? (And, yes, our categories are only useful for people who like to organise categories.) Thincat (talk) 20:40, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, it's not her. Searching has become an absolute nightmare. All I get from Google are stereotypical cross-dressers, drag queens, "how to read male body language and tell whether he is interested" and all that bollocks. I saw a documentary about her on TV and read an Wikipedia article about her, but as I cannot remember a single letter from her name, she cannot be found anywhere. --93.106.246.169 (talk) 08:12, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Have you tried looking through lists such as Category:American_feminists and Category:American_women_artists?--Shantavira|feed me 08:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, it's not her. Searching has become an absolute nightmare. All I get from Google are stereotypical cross-dressers, drag queens, "how to read male body language and tell whether he is interested" and all that bollocks. I saw a documentary about her on TV and read an Wikipedia article about her, but as I cannot remember a single letter from her name, she cannot be found anywhere. --93.106.246.169 (talk) 08:12, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- She might not even be a feminist nor an artist as such. Doing kind of "stand-up" on stage in men's clothing but definitely not a comedian, rather making a serious demonstration. The audience is laughing nonetheless. I vaguely remember that she had moved to Europe, probably lived on the Island of Great Britain, maybe Scotland, and if she had become an UK citizen, she might not even be American any longer. She spoke a little German but mainly American English on the documentary. So I'm basically looking for a dead woman who appeared on a television documentary that I saw either on TV or on YouTube 6–18 months ago. Hopeless. --93.106.246.169 (talk) 08:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, you might want to tone down the anger a little bit? If Google and Wikipedia aren't making it easy for you to find her, that's not necessarily a criticism of Google and Wikipedia, in both of which millions of people find exactly what they're looking for every day. It's not clear to me what kind of search engine you have in mind that would make it easier for you to find her than it currently is. --Viennese Waltz 09:50, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- She might not even be a feminist nor an artist as such. Doing kind of "stand-up" on stage in men's clothing but definitely not a comedian, rather making a serious demonstration. The audience is laughing nonetheless. I vaguely remember that she had moved to Europe, probably lived on the Island of Great Britain, maybe Scotland, and if she had become an UK citizen, she might not even be American any longer. She spoke a little German but mainly American English on the documentary. So I'm basically looking for a dead woman who appeared on a television documentary that I saw either on TV or on YouTube 6–18 months ago. Hopeless. --93.106.246.169 (talk) 08:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- No thanks. I might very well not tone down the anger. Some people are telling us that you could replace general knowledge with search engines and that one might benefit from outsourcing one's knowledge to projects like Google or Wikipedia. I already am full aware of the fact that search results are somewhat biased and that the algorithms give us cat videos and guides to better sex, but if you are searching for something obscure, it stays obscure. I am not writing here to critizise the search engines, I'm looking for a fellow human being who knows exactly the woman I am talking about and helps me by telling her name. I am not interested in those "millions of people" who can find exactly what they are looking for on the Internet. I'm one of them. --93.106.246.169 (talk) 10:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- You can catch more ants with sugar than with vinegar. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:08, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- No thanks. I might very well not tone down the anger. Some people are telling us that you could replace general knowledge with search engines and that one might benefit from outsourcing one's knowledge to projects like Google or Wikipedia. I already am full aware of the fact that search results are somewhat biased and that the algorithms give us cat videos and guides to better sex, but if you are searching for something obscure, it stays obscure. I am not writing here to critizise the search engines, I'm looking for a fellow human being who knows exactly the woman I am talking about and helps me by telling her name. I am not interested in those "millions of people" who can find exactly what they are looking for on the Internet. I'm one of them. --93.106.246.169 (talk) 10:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I found a TED talk by Amy Cuddy which if it is not it ,at least gives you somewhere else to look,Hotclaws (talk) 12:40, 20 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotclaws (talk • contribs)
- This sounds a bit like the work of Deborah Tannen, particularly her book You Just Don't Understand. I don't think it is Tannen, but I would think there is a good chance that English language commentary about the experiment might also mention Tannen. John M Baker (talk) 16:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)