User talk:Digwuren

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Vormsi enn probably needs your attention

FYI - DGG nominated the article for deletion [1] - I don't understand his reasoning yet, but he has earned my respect for his intelectual integrity. This could well be the first occasion, where I will disagree with him. Power.corrupts (talk) 18:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Jaikism

Here we go. Sort of funny. --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 12:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I figure KL has great future ahead as a snake oil salesman. Or perhaps, snake oil derivative salesman. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

For the record, the Great Debate in LHV forum has ended after everybody realised that there's nothing that can beat umpteenth repetition of the same nonsense in a fair debate. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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User:Digwuren/Talk:Soviet occupation denialism

I have commented away the project transclusions as it caused a lot of problems for categories, especially for Article alerts. I can elaborate if you don't understand what I'm talking about.Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 04:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL

I for one think you are a very mature seven year old. Ostap 18:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. It took me a whole year to learn it, but it was well worth it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 19:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

AE

There was some egregious personal attack on you by Russavia in January. Well, there have been many since then, but I mean that one which was really unforgettable. It alone outweights everything in his AE by far. Any chance you remember where it was? Colchicum (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I know what you have in mind, but it'll take some time to actually find it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 23:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Here is it: [2]. Wow, it is even worse than I thought. Colchicum (talk) 00:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Attacks resumed: [3]. His case is lost. Colchicum (talk) 16:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I am sure Russavia will never submit this case to ArbCom. First of all, it is he who was incivil. Second, he called ArbCom proceedings "Stalinist trials". How can he trust them? His "AE" is just another disruption.Biophys (talk) 14:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

There's an old Estonian saying which could be translated as it's best to plan for contingencies before they happen. Of course, being a chronic procrastinator, I hope you're right. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

His AE indeed goes against one of the Arbcom's rulings (from the Irpen-Piotrus case or something like this), but his dislike of the Arbcom will hardly stop him. He can nominate the Kosovo-some obscure Pacific island relations substubs for deletion and then passionately oppose proposed deletion of Russia-some obsure Pacific island relations substubs, oppose Putinland and then create the eSStonia or Georgia for Georgians rubbish, advocate removal of unofficial, yet serious explanations of the 1999 bombings and strive to include fringe Russian theories of the Litvinenko assasination, remove some sources he doesn't like as unreliable and then refer to blogs, accuse others of stalking and stalk Muscovite99 across several different Wikipedias, defend some of the worst POV-pushers against well-deserved sanctions and accuse others of POV-pushing. And he doesn't see anything wrong with what he did in September. It is quite possible that he doesn't realize this himself, but why should we care? Maybe he will submit his case and even get some people here blocked, including himself, of course. Just behave calmly and keep in mind that most Russian editors here, except for the bunch of edit-warriors on the Russia-Georgia war article and some banned trolls, don't really share his viewpoint, they are just too polite to discuss this with him. I am curious where is Moreschi with his banhammer? HW, for example, would certainly fit the anvil profile. Colchicum (talk) 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I certainly agree with everything, except you are missing his non-stop 24 hour editing without any interruptions for sleep. This can only be explain by editing by several users, no matter what checkuser tells. This also explains his productivity. He downloaded 5,000+ of Putin's images in Commons, after getting this authorization letter he placed in Commons. Please read it. I am not going to comment anything further.Biophys (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, that particular achievement is somewhat helpful, though I hate when he change every decent portrait to a picture taken at a meeting with Pootie-Poot or Medved (even if the subject is known to dislike the couple) and I don't really think we need that much pictures of them and categories like commons:Category:Vladimir Putin in Saint Petersburg. As to his sleep habits, I won't comment. I am able to do similar things, I just wouldn't devote much of my time to Russian politicians, who are nobody to me and who will ignominiously perish in ten years or so anyway. But such is passion, nothing can be done about it. Colchicum (talk) 17:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

How do you like this personality cult? Crap of monumental proportions. Colchicum (talk) 22:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

You should look here (I especially like Patrushev and Budanov in the list) or Koni (dog). Passion? This is hard to swallow. I agree that Hanzo had passion.Biophys (talk) 23:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Ironically, this sort of thing is likely to create a Figaro here, Figaro there effect. A bad case of that could make the readers think Putin and Medvedev are trying to be the groom in every Wikipedia wedding picture. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I also noticed this thing (and my name mentioned, too :-)) I hope he'll calm down: being such an active user, he probably shouldn't pay too much attention to the minor skirmishes he encounters. Anyway, even if the case is accepted, I won't take part in it, as I'm busy in real life and even here in wiki, I have way better things to do.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 17:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Could I entice you with a shiny toy? Unfortunately, experience shows that in order to prevail on any sort of ARBCOM, a lot of common sense is needed -- and I'm in a rather short supply. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Depends on what the toy really looks like, of course (omfg!lol!) ;-) If it's gonna be e.g. Lembit Valt or Estonian diaspora in Russia, we'll see! --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 19:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Ignorance in misinterpreting the image of Russia

The Russian embassy in Stockholm has launched a scathing critique of Sveriges Television (SVT) for what it sees as a disgusting portrayal of Russia during the weekends Melodifestivalen finals. If Russians could see what happened on the stage of Globen on Saturday, Im fairly certain it will reduce the number of votes they give to the Swedish singer [Malena Ernman]. The Russian embassy in Stockholm did issue an official statement condemning the piece: "We do not react to eccentricity by some lunatics whose Russophobia should place them in an asylum rather than on Globens stage." --Hapsala (talk) 14:05, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. I didn't particularly care for the clip, but if they managed to make the embassy say that it wouldn't say anything, they must have managed to hit a proverbial nerve. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Some newcomers...

Hi, I think you might want to check this. Here's some fellow who has been doing in et.wiki tricks somewhat similar to those played by Bloomfield. Now the guy has set his foot in English Wikipedia, too. Evidently, it's gonna take a shitload of effort to wikify, verify or even just clean up his concoctions. (Being no fan of A.Rüütel myself, I'd say his comments on that topic make me rather skeptical as to VanemTao's possible contributions to the free encyclopedia ...). --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 19:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's probably not Bloomfield. Bloomfield was obsessed with anarchism. This one has other obsessions. But it's worrying. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 19:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, just similar tactics. That's the person. I was never fond of ERSP politicians. --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 19:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'm capable of going through all the material myself. But let me know if there's anything specific I can help with. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

This fellow created the article Karl Tõnisson, but seems notable enough given the reference I found. Martintg (talk) 20:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Some of his creations are notable and legitimate, but the content is invariably of terrible quality. It seems quite a number of his bundles have been deleted in et.wiki, which made him run into rage.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 20:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

... which is ironic, considering that the rulers of et.wiki are strong inclusionists. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I think Karl Tõnisson is legitimate and notable. He was a weird fellow, but he existed, and he did some notable stuff. Ironically, a lot of what he did when he was alive resembles the things Bloomfield has been doing on Wikipedia. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The spelling of Tennison would make for a fascinating DYK. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Check your mail. Martintg (talk) 21:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I've responded.

I've heard his name in some other context. Probably something having to do with Christianity. Any idea what that might have been? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

et:Mall:kas

Excellent idea. Why don't we have something like this on English Wikipedia? Perhaps, it might be named {{?}}. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

{{?}} was taken, {{orly}} was taken, so I picked the next best thing: {{sure?}}. It works like this:

The moon is made out of Template:Sure?. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I've seen such a gadget in French wiki, too.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 22:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

A comment

I do not think you should be very active right now in this AE. Although it concerns you personally, please to not take it too close to the heart. One short comment should be enough. Sorry for the intervention.Biophys (talk) 22:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. I should be doing some friday night hacking, anyway. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

OK. Do not worry that he will file a case. He has no case.Biophys (talk) 13:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Jehochman has displayed profound antipathy towards me before. Think that might be a problem? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 14:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you indeed behaved recklessly, which resulted in your ban, even though your ban was unfair. We should behave reasonably and calmly, and do not bother administrators too much, excluding cases when their intervention is unavoidable.Biophys (talk) 15:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I like to think I understand the underground attitude. But as somebody who was born in the Soviet Union, somebody who remembers the profound fear of random KGB action, and subsequently grew up in the freedom granted by perestroika and the Fall of the Soviet Union, I find this attitude unsuitable for me. I like to think I'm a free person, and I do my best to refrain from systemic fear of a class of randomly acting powerful people. Consequently, I won't cower from administrators.

As you may remember, I lost my innocence regarding Wikipedia long ago, and this sort of thing figured heavilly into this. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I understand your feelings with regard to the Soviet Union. However, there is something very strange. We both left this country long time ago (one way or another), but we returned back to wikipedia - only to find precisely the same Soviet-like mentality here - expressed by some other users. Why are we doing this? Probably we should not. This reminds me the stories about former prisoners of Gulag who willingly lived near their former labor camp, being unable to adjust to normal life. I became a worse person after editing here. Seriously.Biophys (talk) 18:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

You make an interesting point. I shall ponder over it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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GA review

If you disagree, you can bring the article to Wikipedia:Good article reassessment. Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 15:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe you can also ask there to reevaluate a review. However, you're right, the normal way would be renomination. I left an additional comment on the review page. Hekerui (talk) 15:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Try Template:Infobox Person. Hekerui (talk) 16:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Are you able to help with this?

Hey Digwuren, I am working on User:Russavia/DipMis at the moment, and I have a photo of the embassy in Tallinn, but I don't have photos of the Consulate in Narva (Kiriku t. 8), and the Consular Department in Tartu (Ülikooli 1). As you are in Tartu, is there any possibility you may be able to get a photo of the Russian consular department building in Tartu? Also, do you know anyone in Narva whom I may be able to approach in order to get a photo of the Consulate there? Cheers --Russavia ^Dialogue 20:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I can take a photo of the Tartu consulate in the weekend. I probably can't help with the Narva one, though. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, when you upload it to Commons, can you include it in Commons:Category:Consulates of Russia, and you can insert on the article itself, or let me know where it is, and I can do it. Might you be able to post a message on et.wiki with a request for the Narva consulate? I can't find the et equivalent of Wikipedia:Requested_pictures, so am etwiki doesn't have a similar request page? Any help appreciated. Cheers --Russavia ^Dialogue 20:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I stronly suggest you not collaborate with Ruavia. Probably decent people shouldn't communicate with such dishonest outcasts at all [4]. Mature people should assume responsibility for what they are doing. From now on, let's let him absolutely alone. Something like Я не еду в разговариваю с Ruavia. He will get banned eventually anyway. Petri Krohn may be well worth reconciliation, this one is not. Colchicum (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC) P.S. Russavia or his pals, would you be so kind to report me for this? It's like a badge of honor.

AfD nomination of Chile–Estonia relations

An article that you have been involved in editing, Chile–Estonia relations, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chile–Estonia relations. Thank you.

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for that essay I never get around to write

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