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He's not notable because he's the oldest person in the country. Fails WP:GNG. — Timneu22 · talk 16:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete couldn't find anything of use in google news. Secret ^account 16:49, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. -- Jujutacular ^talk 17:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep hes a supercentenarian, and hes been the oldest man in the country for years, and if thats your reason for this afd, then youll have to make a lot more, because a lot of people have articles for being the oldest person/man in a country. Longevitydude (talk) 18:12, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Being the oldest verified man in a continent is notable, and I know some people who have access to other articles about him.Longevitydude (talk) 18:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Why is it notable to be 100? Why not 97? Why not 103? Even the Lists of centenarians says you need to be notable for something other than being old to be included. This guy is old. So? The youngest person in Europe was born 0.0004 seconds ago. SO?? — Timneu22 · talk 18:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Hes a SUPERcentenarian, hes at least 110, that was a list of centenarians, not 110+ year olds, and being the oldest man in a continent is notable. The article is because hes the oldest man in Europe, not just because of his age. Longevitydude (talk) 19:09, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Did it say, other than being oldEST, this guy is the continent's oldEST verified man. Longevitydude (talk) 19:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        So, simply being alive is notable? Certainly that doesn't fit under WP:GNG. — Timneu22 · talk 19:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The logic for inclusion is faulty. Someday--perhaps very soon--this man will die. He will then no longer be the oldest person within a given geographical area. What will be the justification for the article THEN? The even less notable "He USED to be the oldest person within a given geographical area"? Or "Here lie the bones of a guy who was briefly non-notable for being the oldest person in a geographical area"? He is not sufficiently notable now, and the moment he dies he becomes completely non-notable. Let's not wait till then. Let's delete it now, because we're only going to have to delete it later. True notability is not something that expires with death. Qworty (talk) 19:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
notability is not temporary, he will still be notable because he HAD the title, and when you live that long then you can have the nerve to say simply being alive, and yes, its easier to be a professional athlete than a supercentenarian, there are more athletes than male supercentenarians. Longevitydude (talk) 19:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 ****** So, simply being alive is notable? Certainly that doesn't fit under [[WP:GNG]]. &mdash; <small>[[User:Timneu22|Timneu22]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span>&#32; [[User talk:Timneu22|talk]]</small> 19:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 *'''Delete.'''  The logic for inclusion is faulty.  Someday--perhaps very soon--this man will die.  He will then no longer be the oldest person within a given geographical area.  What will be the justification for the article THEN?  The even less notable "He '''''USED''''' to be the oldest person within a given geographical area"?  Or "Here lie the bones of a guy who was briefly non-notable for being the oldest person in a geographical area"?  He is not sufficiently notable now, and the moment he dies he becomes completely non-notable.  Let's not wait till then.  Let's delete it now, because we're only going to have to delete it later.  True notability is not something that expires with death. [[User:Qworty|Qworty]] ([[User talk:Qworty|talk]]) 19:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
+*notability is not temporary, he will still be notable because he HAD the title, and when you live that long then you can have the nerve to say ''simply being alive'', and yes, its easier to be a professional athlete than a supercentenarian, there are more athletes than male supercentenarians. [[User:Longevitydude|Longevitydude]] ([[User talk:Longevitydude|talk]]) 19:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)