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:::: Wrong, I have been following you and already knew that you were Lagoo sab [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pashtun_people&action=historysubmit&diff=465134633&oldid=464548382 right from this day]. You just made the job easier though. [[User:Mar4d|Mar4d]] ([[User talk:Mar4d|talk]]) 08:52, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:::: Wrong, I have been following you and already knew that you were Lagoo sab [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pashtun_people&action=historysubmit&diff=465134633&oldid=464548382 right from this day]. You just made the job easier though. [[User:Mar4d|Mar4d]] ([[User talk:Mar4d|talk]]) 08:52, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::That was obviously fixing vandalism and organizing images. Since you knew that you were exposed by admin Fastly in November as being a sock of Strider11, you began watching me for fear that I would report you. Unless you are in love with Lagoo sab, what other reason do you have to be watching for him? Btw, I'm aware that if admins block all of you Pakistani sockmasters, you will come again and again and again with new names and edit the same Pakistani pages. You guys have been doing this since 2005 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Raza0007&oldid=163933201] and I really don't care about all that shit. You are destroying the Pakistani articles by filling them with nonsense. For example, you add anything you read in news into articles, i.e. Joe Biden mentions "Taliban not enemies"[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ATaliban#Taliban_not_a_U.S._enemy], 95% of terrorism in Pakistan relate to Afghan refugees[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Afghans_in_Pakistan&action=historysubmit&diff=466029888&oldid=465766187], etc. Just because nobody challenge your edits doesn't mean that you're doing a good job, you're just messing up pages with weak news reports and this is very disturbing. Stop blaming the mess in your country (Pakistan) on others when you know you are doing bad yourself. For example, you are socking here (violating Wikipedia) and refuse to accept this bad deed of yours.--[[User:Kiftaan|Kiftaan]] ([[User talk:Kiftaan|talk]]) 09:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::That was obviously fixing vandalism and organizing images. Since you knew that you were exposed by admin Fastly in November as being a sock of Strider11, you began watching me for fear that I would report you. Unless you are in love with Lagoo sab, what other reason do you have to be watching for him? Btw, I'm aware that if admins block all of you Pakistani sockmasters, you will come again and again and again with new names and edit the same Pakistani pages. You guys have been doing this since 2005 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Raza0007&oldid=163933201] and I really don't care about all that shit. You are destroying the Pakistani articles by filling them with nonsense. For example, you add anything you read in news into articles, i.e. Joe Biden mentions "Taliban not enemies"[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ATaliban#Taliban_not_a_U.S._enemy], 95% of terrorism in Pakistan relate to Afghan refugees[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Afghans_in_Pakistan&action=historysubmit&diff=466029888&oldid=465766187], etc. Just because nobody challenge your edits doesn't mean that you're doing a good job, you're just messing up pages with weak news reports and this is very disturbing. Stop blaming the mess in your country (Pakistan) on others when you know you are doing bad yourself. For example, you are socking here (violating Wikipedia) and refuse to accept this bad deed of yours.--[[User:Kiftaan|Kiftaan]] ([[User talk:Kiftaan|talk]]) 09:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
* All the "evidence" which Lagoo sab claims he has used for his allegations here have three things in common: 1) Amateurism and a lack of research; 2) Far too many personal opinions being presented as facts, in what appears to a desperate attempt to portray all the involved editors as sockmasters; he's also engaging in [[WP:personal attacks]], an offence which is liable for a block (although that's not relevant since an indefinite ban on the current account is in order) and 3) Far too many inconsistencies and fabricated material in observations. I can list out many points on which he's taken a u-turn on from his previous SPIs on my account. First of all, I think admins can review my contributions and editing history and decide better for themselves whether I'm a sockpuppet or not. I have been on Wikipedia with this account for 2.5 years, have made 23,000 edits and have often received recognition for some of my constructive work here. Sockpuppets like Kiftaan who [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Lagoo sab|create hundreds of accounts]] and flout the project's rules will never be able to understand the spirit of Wikipedia. Where I live and what I do has no relevance to the issue at hand, and neither is it your business to make guesses of where I live. There are many editors around the world who edit Pakistan-related topics on Wikipedia and are active members of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan]]. If you think I'm the only Pakistani editor in Australia, that's ''your'' misconception. There are many Pakistani Wikipedians who edit from Australia, with [[User:Hassan514]] being one example I know.
* You're using IP addresses to meat up your claims. That's a very weak bit of evidence. First, IP addresses are not reliable and do not always indicate the correct location of a user. My IP address shows me in a suburb of Sydney, yet I'm not in Sydney. All Australian IP addresses start with the digits '123' and '124' for your information. I've seen Strider11's IPs, and none of them are the same, except the starting digits. Furthermore, this has something to do with the telecom company. I have seen Australian IPs here which trace to exactly the same region as indicated on mine because they use the same internet company as I do, yet those IPs are not actually from where they're shown to be on IP2location. See my interaction ([[User talk:Saimdusan#Userboxes/Kashmir|here]]) with [[User:Saimdusan]], who is another Australia-based editor who extensively edits Pakistan and South Asia related topics. He's based in a completely different city yet the IP address of his showing in that discussion (after he forgot to sign in) shows the '''exact same location''' as mine and that person also uses the same telecommunications company as me.
* My third point, and this is important. Before registering my current account, I used to have another account (my first ever serious account) which I created in mid-2009 while I was in another country (Pakistan). I edited extensively from that account for a number of months in 2009 to 2010 in Pakistan. If my memory serves me correct, I created Mar4d sometime in 2010 in Pakistan, some time before temporarily moving to Australia. I still know that other account. If an admin is interested, I can email the details of that other account so that an admin can establish its connection and verify it was used in Pakistan (and over here at the start). I am not going to reveal anything about that account here because there are some obvious real-life stalkers who invade people's right to anonymity, which I'd rather not prefer.
* I find the claims of sockpuppetry against other editors such as TopGun ludicrous because he's an experienced editor who's been here for quite a while. Also, I know what [[User:Ironboy11]] is like because I have interacted with him before and have read his articles as well as contributions. One thing I can definitely tell you without second thought is that Ironboy11's editing behaviours and interests are ''completely different'' and his command of the English language is ''very, very, very different'' from that of the accused editor. The admin who went through Ironboy11's articles and blocked him for copyright vio's will be able to confirm in a minute that he is a different person than TopGun or any of the other editors above just by looking at the language differences. Furthermore, Ironboy11 is based in the United States. None of the above users are from there. [[User:Mar4d|Mar4d]] ([[User talk:Mar4d|talk]]) 10:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
**{{adminnote}} I've blocked all the accounts above as socks. As a side note, I've merged this case in from one that was open at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iamtrhino]]. — [[User:HelloAnnyong|'''<span style="color: #aaa">Hello</span><span style="color: #666">Annyong</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:HelloAnnyong|(say whaaat?!)]]</sup> 16:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
**{{adminnote}} I've blocked all the accounts above as socks. As a side note, I've merged this case in from one that was open at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iamtrhino]]. — [[User:HelloAnnyong|'''<span style="color: #aaa">Hello</span><span style="color: #666">Annyong</span>''']] <sup>[[User talk:HelloAnnyong|(say whaaat?!)]]</sup> 16:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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Mrpontiac1

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– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.

22 December 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


[1] [2] - I believe that Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mrpontiac1/Archive and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sridhar100/Archive are connected because VanshKaushal (sock of Mrpontiac1[3]) edits and behaves like Littleboy58 (sock of Sridhar100 [4]). Another blocked socks of Mrpontiac1 was making very similar edits as 'Littleboy58 who is now blocked as sock of Sridhar100.

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
23 December 2011
Suspected sockpuppets


these accounts are making exactly the same edits as iamthrino.-- altetendekrabbe  12:26, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.


Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Some pretty narrow results here: These two are the same:

These two are the same:

These three are the same:

Just a note to the admin who reads this, the above user is a sockpuppet account of the banned and blocked User:Lagoo sab / User:NisarKand based in Islamabad, Pakistan, who mostly edits Afghanistan-related articles (refer to contribs). This sockmaster user has a historical trait of levelling sockpuppet allegations against every user he comes across. He's got the distinction of filing two SPIs on me, the first one in which it was verified that User:Drspaz is an alternative account of mine and the case was closed by HelloAnnyong. The second one was filed in September in which he basically labelled every user he could come up with as a sockpuppet of User:Strider11, including my account. A checkuser was conducted in that report, and the closing statement there speaks for itself. He also goes around on Wikimedia Commons under the username "Officer" and has a history there of tagging free/public-domain images as copyright violations, which several other users have opposed. The block currently enforced on my account at Commons was a result of some edit-warring and a cock-and-bull email sent to the admin by this user. I have contacted the admin to review the block and am awaiting a reply there. Mar4d (talk) 03:40, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the admin should go through the contributions of the other users he's mentioned in his poorly researched story above and decide for him/herself whether they even remotely resemble sockpuppet accounts or are single-purpose accounts. There are enough damning reasons why they're not but this is probably not the right page to discuss the issue so I rest my case. An SPI on Lagoo sab should also be in place soon. Mar4d (talk) 03:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mar4d, you cannot deny that you are not in the Sydney, Australia, area because this Australian IP was in fact used by you and on that same day you were desperatly trying to make admins erace your posts so that your location doesn't show but it was too late. Do you remember that or do I need to show your action here? At Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Strider11/Archive#Report date October 22 2009.2C 05:33 .28UTC.29 your ISP is listed as being used by sockmaster Strider11 so why are you still denying all this? You are in fact the banned sockmaster who's been creating and using many many accounts by connecting to different ISP ranges in your area. The Austalian located ISPs listed here perfectly matches with one of the ones you were using here for disturbances (you were also confirmed to be using this and this sockpuppet on that same day, which conntects to your Australian IP). You used a sock (User:Teckgeek) to create the page Afghans in Pakistan in 2009 [13] and upto now you are still editing it and filling it with your anti-Afghan povs [14] There are dozens of other similar evidence that you are the banned sockmaster Strider11.--Kiftaan (talk) 07:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • User:TopGun is in fact another sockmaster who's been indef-blocked many times but returns to edit the same pages. He's the one who leaves :) smilies in talk pages and partially Pakhtun. this is another sock of his that he just created for single purpose. Mar4d, you know well that he is a sockmaster like you and that's why you are here defending him. He is connected to at least User:Ironboy11 and any admin who runs a CU on that will be able to see. I tried to figure out where the indef-blocked SyedNaqvi90 (talk · contribs) went because I'm sure he's still editing under new accounts. You guys are causing collateral damage to Wikipedia with all these damn socks. Anyone who looks at almost any Pakistani-related page will be able to realize that you sockmasters are doing all the edits.--Kiftaan (talk) 07:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the above fairy tale and swift response confirms the inevitable. He's also resorting to his old tricks of vandalising mine and other people's userpages now [15], [16], [17]. Admin, please clear this up ASAP. Mar4d (talk) 08:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you weren't one of the sockmasters that I mentioned you wouldn't have even come to comment. You keep denying being Strider11, I think on judgement day you will try to deny this in front of God, lol.--Kiftaan (talk) 08:47, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong, I have been following you and already knew that you were Lagoo sab right from this day. You just made the job easier though. Mar4d (talk) 08:52, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That was obviously fixing vandalism and organizing images. Since you knew that you were exposed by admin Fastly in November as being a sock of Strider11, you began watching me for fear that I would report you. Unless you are in love with Lagoo sab, what other reason do you have to be watching for him? Btw, I'm aware that if admins block all of you Pakistani sockmasters, you will come again and again and again with new names and edit the same Pakistani pages. You guys have been doing this since 2005 [18] and I really don't care about all that shit. You are destroying the Pakistani articles by filling them with nonsense. For example, you add anything you read in news into articles, i.e. Joe Biden mentions "Taliban not enemies"[19], 95% of terrorism in Pakistan relate to Afghan refugees[20], etc. Just because nobody challenge your edits doesn't mean that you're doing a good job, you're just messing up pages with weak news reports and this is very disturbing. Stop blaming the mess in your country (Pakistan) on others when you know you are doing bad yourself. For example, you are socking here (violating Wikipedia) and refuse to accept this bad deed of yours.--Kiftaan (talk) 09:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • All the "evidence" which Lagoo sab claims he has used for his allegations here have three things in common: 1) Amateurism and a lack of research; 2) Far too many personal opinions being presented as facts, in what appears to a desperate attempt to portray all the involved editors as sockmasters; he's also engaging in WP:personal attacks, an offence which is liable for a block (although that's not relevant since an indefinite ban on the current account is in order) and 3) Far too many inconsistencies and fabricated material in observations. I can list out many points on which he's taken a u-turn on from his previous SPIs on my account. First of all, I think admins can review my contributions and editing history and decide better for themselves whether I'm a sockpuppet or not. I have been on Wikipedia with this account for 2.5 years, have made 23,000 edits and have often received recognition for some of my constructive work here. Sockpuppets like Kiftaan who create hundreds of accounts and flout the project's rules will never be able to understand the spirit of Wikipedia. Where I live and what I do has no relevance to the issue at hand, and neither is it your business to make guesses of where I live. There are many editors around the world who edit Pakistan-related topics on Wikipedia and are active members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan. If you think I'm the only Pakistani editor in Australia, that's your misconception. There are many Pakistani Wikipedians who edit from Australia, with User:Hassan514 being one example I know.
  • You're using IP addresses to meat up your claims. That's a very weak bit of evidence. First, IP addresses are not reliable and do not always indicate the correct location of a user. My IP address shows me in a suburb of Sydney, yet I'm not in Sydney. All Australian IP addresses start with the digits '123' and '124' for your information. I've seen Strider11's IPs, and none of them are the same, except the starting digits. Furthermore, this has something to do with the telecom company. I have seen Australian IPs here which trace to exactly the same region as indicated on mine because they use the same internet company as I do, yet those IPs are not actually from where they're shown to be on IP2location. See my interaction (here) with User:Saimdusan, who is another Australia-based editor who extensively edits Pakistan and South Asia related topics. He's based in a completely different city yet the IP address of his showing in that discussion (after he forgot to sign in) shows the exact same location as mine and that person also uses the same telecommunications company as me.
  • My third point, and this is important. Before registering my current account, I used to have another account (my first ever serious account) which I created in mid-2009 while I was in another country (Pakistan). I edited extensively from that account for a number of months in 2009 to 2010 in Pakistan. If my memory serves me correct, I created Mar4d sometime in 2010 in Pakistan, some time before temporarily moving to Australia. I still know that other account. If an admin is interested, I can email the details of that other account so that an admin can establish its connection and verify it was used in Pakistan (and over here at the start). I am not going to reveal anything about that account here because there are some obvious real-life stalkers who invade people's right to anonymity, which I'd rather not prefer.
  • I find the claims of sockpuppetry against other editors such as TopGun ludicrous because he's an experienced editor who's been here for quite a while. Also, I know what User:Ironboy11 is like because I have interacted with him before and have read his articles as well as contributions. One thing I can definitely tell you without second thought is that Ironboy11's editing behaviours and interests are completely different and his command of the English language is very, very, very different from that of the accused editor. The admin who went through Ironboy11's articles and blocked him for copyright vio's will be able to confirm in a minute that he is a different person than TopGun or any of the other editors above just by looking at the language differences. Furthermore, Ironboy11 is based in the United States. None of the above users are from there. Mar4d (talk) 10:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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