Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of television series that include time travel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 07:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

List of television series that include time travel

Non-notable list. Should use WP:Categorization instead. Delete Atrian 22:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: participants in the discussion at Category talk:Time travel television series felt these shows did not fit well in the category and would best be served by a list. - EurekaLott 22:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
  • It seems to me the discussion is about those television series not fitting in that category because they reference time travel rather than being about time travel. I don't see any reasoning why this list couldn't be turned into a different (but related) category. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-11 06:21Z
• Keep per category discussion, and the fact it's a subgenre of SF that's worth spotlighting. 23skidoo 01:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete more bad fanlists that should be removed. Eusebeus 03:02, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. -- JJay 03:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep — See the discussion in Category talk:Time travel television series. Val42 04:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as yet another in a series of improbable lists. Difficult to maintain, difficult to WP:V, and not encyclopedic. At worst make into a new cat, at best to delete. - brenneman^(t)(c) 07:07, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Less intrusive as a list than as a category. CalJW 14:08, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment — Wasn't Blackadder just semi-historical comedy? If this list at least justified itself with some relevant notes and analyses of the shows, it might be salvagable. Right now I don't see much benefit. — RJH 15:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • This is explained at Category_talk:Time_travel_television_series – Blackadder did have a time travel episode. My suggestion has been to list the individual episodes under each series, but the nomination for deletion has come too quickly for the list format to be settled upon. — Lee J Haywood 20:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • For a fuller analysis of the Blackadder reference, see the talk for the discussed list.
• Keep – provides a reference index for existing articles, but the list will only show its value once it becomes more exhaustive.   — Lee J Haywood 20:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and flag these via a category instead to remove maintenance burden. Garglebutt / (talk) 22:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - it's just fine. Categories would be bad for this. -- Netoholic @ 23:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Don't see any big problem with this. David | Talk 23:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC
• Keep. Not suitbale for categorisation.
• I'm going to vote delete here because this is, in the end, a list of arbitrary entertainment medium which has used arbitrary plot device at some point. Time travel is a fairly popular fictional meme, I can see the merit in the category and maybe even in a list of significant fiction which uses time travel as a plot device for one episode (although probably not, to be fair), but the fact that, for example, Blackadder Back and Forth (generally regarded as far and away the worst example of the entire faranchise) relies on time travel really tells us nothing about either time travel as a fictional concept or Blackadder the entertainment phenomenon. I might even have been swayed if this was anything other than a bare list, but as it stands the reader is left to guess in which episode(s) and to what extent, with what significance, exploring which of the multiple plot lines of time travel (causality, comic anachronism, whatever), with what degree of unpredictability (it is more or less inevitable that any sci-fi series will eventually cover this ground) and even how good or bad it was (which in the Blackadder case is: very lame indeed). As far as I can tell this article has no actual encyclopaedic informational content at all. - Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] AfD? 19:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I have already suggested that the individual episodes are given in the list, but was going to wait for a consensus before proceeding with adding them. The nomination for deletion was immediate, so no discussion has even begun on what direction the article might take if it is to remain.   — Lee J Haywood 21:11, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Comments on quality of programmes are not strictly encyclopaedic and are not relevant to whether or not they feature time travel Ck lostsword 20:23, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, cruft. Typical garbage that appears on WP more and more. Pavel Vozenilek 00:53, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and contextualize. As noted above, this differs from Category:Time travel television series in that the category is for series that are primarily about time travel, whereas the list is for that and for instances of time travel in series that don't otherwise feature that particular plot device. -Sean Curtin 03:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, wikipedia users should be able to find examples of television series that include time travel, and it would be excessive categorization the articles in question. Kappa 15:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• keep. this article is useful. Kingturtle 20:07, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - but maybe only as a subsection of programmes about time travel.

When is this debate closed, by the way? Ck lostsword 20:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.