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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." Article dePRODded by creator without reason given, after adding that journal has notable persons on editorial board (WP:NOTINHERITED) and is included on the "list of reviewed non-impacted journals published in the Czech Republic" (not selective in the sense of NJournals). PROD reason still stands. Hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 14:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC) Mts-Lisboa (talk) 21:11, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:25, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As historian, I know the journal quite well. It is a well known history journal of an institute of one of the most important world university. You can find it, among the others, in the Infona portal (administered by the Interdisciplinary Centre of Computational and Mathematical Modelling of the University of Warsaw): [1] and the European Reference Index for the Humanities (Norwegian Centre for Research Data) [2]... Mts-Lisboa (talk) 15:19, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Neither of those indices is selective in the sense of NJournals. But if the journal is this important, it should be possible to find independent reliable sources for that. --Randykitty (talk) 15:50, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

R: "A journal can be considered notable if it can be demonstrated to have significant coverage in the media, or demonstrated to have a significant impact in its field. This is usually verified through the journal's inclusion in selective bibliographic databases and selective indexing and abstracting services, or by being the subject of significant commentary in independent scholarly publications, news media, books, theses, and other sources."Notability (academic journals). The journal is indexed in the ERIH PLUS, a selective index of the Norwegian Centre for Research Data (agency owned by the Ministry of Education and Research of Norway). In addition to this index, I think that the Czech index can be considered at the same level because of this (although I don't know Czech, you could read it through google translator). Maybe some Czech friends and colleagues could help us. Greetings, Mts-Lisboa (talk) 16:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just added: Since January 7, 2015 the journal has been indexed in the Academic Search Complete (EBSCO Information Services)(although I don't know exactly how this particular index works... I know the previous one...). P.S. sometimes the journal is found as "Prague Papers on History of International Relations" and not as "Prague Papers on the History of International Relations" (the latter is the correct one, but very often you can find it indicated in bibliographies with the other form). Mts-Lisboa (talk) 21:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but none of those indexes is very selective, they all try to cover everything within their remit. ERIH really just has a minimal list of requirements designed to keep out predatory journals. When checking databases for inclusion, it generally is best to use just a distinctive word from the title (e.g., "Prague" in this case) and go through the list of results and/or to use the ISSN. --Randykitty (talk) 21:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep -- peer-reviewed and published by a university press. As an RS, the article is justified. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:53, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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+*'''Keep''' -- peer-reviewed and published by a university press. As an RS, the article is justified. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 00:53, 2 September 2017 (UTC)