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'''Inactive Editor''' |
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Due to life interceding, I have been inconvenienced and so, unfortunately, has Wikipedia. Hope Wikipedia can withstand my absence, |
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Any edits performed by me will be infrequent and random, as a result. Cheers, |
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----Lexein Fishette |
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[[image:Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement.svg|right|thumb|230px|''Hierarchy of Disagreement'' (after [http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html Paul Graham's "How to Disagree"]). Please stay in the top three tiers. I will also try.]] |
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'''Hello, [[Wikipedia:Introduction|welcome]] to my talk page!''' |
'''Hello, [[Wikipedia:Introduction|welcome]] to my talk page!''' |
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*Please [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit§ion=new}} write in a new section at the ''bottom''] of this page. |
*Please [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit§ion=new}} write in a new section at the ''bottom''] of this page. |
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*Please [[Wikipedia:Signatures|sign your posts]] with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. |
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*([[User:Lexein/Don't bold first words|Don't bold first words]] - they will be unbolded at my discretion.) |
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*I will reply here. |
*I will reply here. |
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*''If I comment on your talk page, please respond there.'' I watch [[special:watchlist| my watchlist]]. |
*''If I comment on your talk page, please respond there.'' I watch [[special:watchlist| my watchlist]], and I don't bother with {{tl|Talkback}} or pingponging, so don't you bother. |
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Thank you!<br/>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit§ion=new}} ''' Start a new Talk section.''']<br/> |
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See that pyramid on the right? I actually _do_ prefer to stay in the top tiers. Unfortunately, the pyramid assumes that all actors are discussing in good faith, stating true facts, and not misrepresenting others' words. I'm afraid these do not hold true for deletionists and trolls, who choose to bend the language, meaning, and spirit of policy, and even outright lie, to achieve maximum destruction, and maximum disturbance to the encyclopedia project. So the reader will find me stepping off the pyramid from time to time to sternly deal with raging deletionist and troll behavior. Sorry if this is upsetting, but please see [[WP:DUCK]] and [[WP:SPADE]] for more on opening one's eyes and seeing the facts before one. --Lexein |
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I am now proud owner of a [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/tusc.php TUSC] account! |
I am now proud owner of a [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/tusc.php TUSC] account! |
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== DYK for 2030 (novel) == |
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#20 May 2011|20 May 2011]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[2030 (novel)]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that '''''[[2030 (novel)|2030: The Real Story of What Happens to America]]''''', a 2011 [[dystopia]]n novel by [[Albert Brooks]], was originally written as a movie script?'' You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201105/2030_(novel) quick check])</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]]. |
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}} [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 08:18, 20 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Return (2011 film) == |
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Apologies - I got the disambig term in the wrong place, then moved it to the correct place. I've fixed the double redirects. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<font color="002bb8">Lugnuts</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 14:04, 22 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== For you... == |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | You have been awarded the Minor Barnstar for removing {{t|reflist}} test templates I forgot to remove '''3 times''' ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame&diff=429818261&oldid=429816962], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame&diff=430371194&oldid=430369285], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame&diff=430638874&oldid=430616284]). I honestly ''cannot believe'' that I am being so careless. I've decided to install [[User:Cacycle/wikEd|wikEd]], which has a built-in reference list previewer, so I won't be leaving any of those around anymore. Anyway, thanks. <span style="white-space:nowrap">[[User:Guoguo12|<font color="green">Guoguo12</font>]][[User talk:Guoguo12|<font color="blue" size="1">'''''--Talk--'''''</font> ]]</span> 19:44, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks. We're all on the lookout. Including [http://stats.grok.se/en/2009/Hollywood%20Walk%20of%20Fame the] [http://stats.grok.se/en/2010/Hollywood%20Walk%20of%20Fame visitors], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201105/Hollywood%20Walk%20of%20Fame apparently] (no pressure - heh). --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 21:06, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== DYK for Oil on Ice == |
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#25 May 2011|25 May 2011]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Oil on Ice]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that the documentary '''''[[Oil on Ice]]''''' won the 2004 [[International Documentary Association]] ''Pare Lorentz Award'' for best representing the "democratic sensibility, activist spirit and lyrical vision" of [[Pare Lorentz|Lorentz]]?'' You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201105/Oil_on_Ice quick check])</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]]. |
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}} [[WP:Did you know|The DYK project]] ([[T:TDYK|nominate]]) 00:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Reply == |
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Suggest you post further concerns about that issue to [[WP:SPI]] and [[WP:ANI]], to get a wider look from multiple admins, and the community of editors at large. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 06:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== DYK for Return (2011 film) == |
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#26 May 2011|26 May 2011]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Return (2011 film)]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that the 2011 indie film '''''[[Return (2011 film)|Return]]''''', directed by Liza Johnson and starring [[Linda Cardellini]], was the only U.S. film selected for this year's 25-film [[Cannes Film Festival]] [[Directors' Fortnight]]?'' You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201105/Return_(2011_film) quick check])</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]]. |
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}} [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 08:03, 26 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Thanks again == |
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Thanks for patiently guiding and helping a Wiki greenhorn like me. Please visit the Norm Macdonald (or Mac-whatever) talk page, as I added a final note. You know, people do say around here that Cajuns are hardheaded, but I don't know ''why'' they say that! ;) It's just ''another'' puzzle! However, I've never been accused of outright malice before! Aaeeeee! --[[User:RedEyedCajun|RedEyedCajun]] ([[User talk:RedEyedCajun|talk]]) 23:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:You're certainly welcome, but really, it's just our job to help new editors find their way around the harsh mistress that Wikipedia can be. It's always best to not use provocative language, and to ignore it when written by others. I'm glad it worked out. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 03:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== DYK for The Prince and the Surfer == |
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}} [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 08:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== DYK for At the Pershing: But Not for Me == |
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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#9 June 2011|9 June 2011]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[At the Pershing: But Not for Me]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that jazz pianist [[Ahmad Jamal]]'s first live album '''''[[At the Pershing: But Not for Me]]''''', recorded in 1958, has sold over one million copies?'' You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [http://stats.grok.se/en/201106/At_the_Pershing:_But_Not_for_Me quick check])</small> and add it to [[WP:DYKSTATS|DYKSTATS]] if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know? talk page]]. |
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}} [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 06:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== MiszaBot configuration == |
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As you might have noticed, I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lexein&diff=433586682&oldid=433575358 edited] your user talk page to fix your configuration for MiszaBot (auto-archiving). All of the posts "archived" since 18 August 2010 have been disappearing into cyberspace (although, of course, they're still in the page history). The last archived post at [[User talk:Lexein/Archive 2]] is from 14 July 2010. <span style="white-space:nowrap">[[User:Guoguo12|<font color="green">Guoguo12</font>]] [[User talk:Guoguo12|<font color="blue" size="1">'''''(Talk)'''''</font> ]]</span> 17:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== 3RR Notice == |
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As my related talk page comments indicated, I am filing a notice at [[WP:3RRN]] regarding your editing of the [[Helena Christensen]] article regarding cheese. Please stop inserting material of dubious noteworthiness against the expressed opinions of all other editors participating in the dispute. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 01:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Notification of [[WP:AN/EW]] report == |
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[[File:Ambox content.png|left|link=]] Hello '''Lexein''',<br /> |
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This is an automated friendly notification to inform you that you have been reported for '''''Violation of the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|Edit warring]] policy''''' at the [[WP:AN/EW#User:Lexein_reported_by_User:Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz_.28Result:_.29|Administrators' noticeboard]].<br /> |
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If you feel that this report has been made in error, please reply as soon as possible on the [[WP:AN/EW#User:Lexein_reported_by_User:Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz_.28Result:_.29|noticeboard]]. However, before contesting an Edit warring report, please review the respective policies to ensure you are not in violation of them. |
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~ [[User:NekoBot|NekoBot]] <small>([[User_Talk:NekoBot|MeowTalk]])</small> 01:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC) <small>(False positive? [[User:NekoBot#False_Positive|Report it!]])</small> <!-- Template: User:NekoBot/3RRAttn --> |
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:Lexein, you risk being blocked if you continue to refuse to accept consensus on the cheese matter at [[Helena Christensen]]. Consider asking for a [[WP:Third opinion]] or open a [[WP:Request for comment]] if you wish. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) |
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::1. I have not finished my response. 2. In ''general'', what you say about consensus is correct. However, specifically, two editors, only one of whom is an interested regular contributor to an article, should not constitute consensus, against a long-time contributor. Also, I'm not in vio of 3RR. Please read my response in a few minutes. I will certainly request 30, since that is the next step in dispute resolution. 3. What is your position with respect to WP:AN/EW process? I don't see your comment there. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 03:25, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I have not closed the AN3 report because the status is not clear yet. You have not made four reverts yourself, but you have apparently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHelena_Christensen&action=historysubmit&diff=437783063&oldid=380768116 announced] that you will continue the edit war. Some admins may consider that sufficient reason for a block. It would be better if you will offer to accept whatever consensus is found. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 03:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Ok. I have completed my response at AN/EW. I think HW's false characterization of my statement should not override my actual statement - I've responded to that. As for consensus, I will happily abide by the outcome of an RfC. Hopefully ''several'' or ''many'' more editors will chime in - larger numbers make it easier for me to accept consensus. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 07:08, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Editing etiquette == |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Caylee_Anthony&action=historysubmit&diff=437954219&oldid=437953279 Why did you undo] my cleanup of the ELs on [[Death of Caylee Anthony]]? and why did you not mention such a change in the edit summary you provided? —'''''[[User:Eustress|Eustress]]''''' <sup>''[[User talk:Eustress|talk]]''</sup> 23:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:It was an edit conflict, and there were so many changes I didn't see the EL changes. I mentioned the conflict, and apologized on the Talk page. I'm restoring the EL changes right now, but there was another edit conflict.--[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 23:10, 5 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Kevorkian == |
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I'm sorry that my attempt at mediation ended in abrupt failure, I hope we made '''''some''' progress'', though it's hard to get past hurt feelings. |
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Re: [[pathology|pathologists]] like Kevorkian prescribing controlled substances, I wasn't totally correct. My research shows that pathologists '''''are''' allowed'' to prescribe, even get [[DEA number]]s, though doing so may be considered outside their scope of practice and "fishy" in the medical community.[http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=93844] This is very much a legal gray area at this time, and regulations may be tightened if high-profile abuses re-occur. So far, medical authorities have reacted by yanking the medical license, like they did in Kevorkian's case in 1991 following the acquittal on murder charges related to the very first time he was discovered using controlled substances to euthanize someone (1989). Also interesting to note: Doctors practicing in the areas of radiology and pathology are exempt from mandatory continuing education courses in the subjects of pain management and controlled substances whereas all other specialties are required to take the courses in order to maintain licensure.[http://www.pcssmethadone.org%2Fpcss%2Fdocuments2%2FMBC_Guidelines_PrescribingForPain.pdf] Basically, the truth is what you said, "...'having the right' is not the same as the ''ethical grounds or training'' to practice." |
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Thank you for being a partner in learning. [[User:NickDupree|NickDupree]] ([[User talk:NickDupree|talk]]) 05:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:I'm glad for three things: |
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:: ... that we chatted, and I don't consider it a failure on anyone's part but mine. Sometimes my only recourse is [[WP:DISENGAGE]]. I had intended to suggest that as an option for the warring editors, but actually forgot to suggest it. I hope the the other involved editor gained some understanding of How Things Can Be at Wikipedia with a change in attitude. |
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:: ... that I'm not one of the warring editors at that article. What ''is'' the recourse when it appears that an (apparent) cabal is bullying an editor? |
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:: ... that the discussion led to some concrete discoveries: what you report above seems like it belongs in a footnote. In fact, the Kevorkian article seems like it would benefit from a Notes<sup>[Note 1]</sup> section separate from References.<sup>[1]</sup> |
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:That's interesting info about MD's & pathologists. As for what I said, I was paraphrasing that linked article! Chuckle. |
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:Anyways, thank ''you'' for taking the time in the side chat. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 05:58, 20 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== DYK for [[ERC (IRC client)]] == |
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I have reviewed your nomination for [[ERC (IRC client)]] and there are a few issues I've noticed. Could you address my comments at [[T:TDYK]]? Thanks. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 03:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:On it. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 06:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the quick reply. Another comment there. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 14:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Replied & ALT there. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 14:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:I don't need Tb's - I use my watchlist. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 09:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== DYK for ERC (IRC client) == |
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}} [[User:Panyd|Panyd]]<sup>[[User talk:Panyd|The muffin is not subtle]]</sup> 08:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== On deletionism == |
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In my experience, and I will be happy to discuss this here or on a subpage, aggressively deleting editors have shown the following characteristics in common: |
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* they do not make the effort to find sources, or integrate or ameliorate content which has issues, |
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* they selectively act on [[WP:BURDEN]]. That is, they delete, without abiding by ''"it has always been good practice [for a deleting editor] to try to find sources"'', |
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* they eschew {{tl|citation needed}} and {{tl|refimprove}}, |
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* they leave vague [[WP:Edit summary|edit summaries]] lacking specific grounds for deletion, which makes improving the article that much more difficult. Two letters like "rm" do not constitute a ''reason'' for deletion, or specify ''what'' was deleted, nor the appropriate pillar/policy/guideline/essay/consensus/ARB ''grounds'' for deletion. |
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* they leave ''impolite'', frequently bordering on [[WP:UNCIVIL]] edit summaries, |
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* they revert reversions of their deletions, with unhelpful edit summaries, |
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* they tend not to discuss, and if they do, it's not very civil. |
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I'm no angel, and have been on both sides of the argument in several disputes. It might seem surprising that I agree that ''sometimes deletion is the only tool which will wake interested editors out of complacency to address an article issue.'' But the above starred characteristics ''in combination'' are, in my opinion, lethal to new editor morale, and have led directly to editor exodus. |
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--[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 15:33, 7 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== death of caylee anthony == |
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Since it was mine and another editor's references you took out of the Verdict, Sentencing section, why the remark in the edit history? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Caylee_Anthony&diff=443827822&oldid=443759315] . Our work in that section was complete and thorough and the references sufficient. If you wanted to add on there is no policy that states you cannot. The reverse was actually true. It was you that replaced our perfectly good references. You then proceeded to make an unkind comment in the edit history when I added mine back. If I may make a suggestion, perhaps, a re-reading of [[Wikipedia:Civility|WP:CIVILITY]] and [[Wikipedia:Ownership of articles]] would not go amiss. [[User:Mugginsx|Mugginsx]] ([[User talk:Mugginsx|talk]]) 10:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Excuse me, but all I did was expand raw urls into full refs to include all the usual details, and use a '''named ref''', instead of a raw url repeated twice. '''No refs were removed.''' Please study the diff very, very carefully. Count the refs: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Caylee_Anthony&oldid=443759315#Verdict_and_sentence 6 before], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Death_of_Caylee_Anthony&oldid=443827822#Verdict_and_sentence 6 after]. This article has been expanded by lots of editors, but only with raw URLs and incomplete refs(no publisher, date, author, title, etc). I was asking ''all editors'' in my edit summary, '''not just you''' although I see why you got the wrong impression. It's time to simply take on the skill of expanding refs as one adds them, while the source news article is open in front of one, during the edit, rather than assume other editors will chase along behind and tidy up. [[WP:There is no deadline]], and no rush, since [[WP:NOTNEWS|Wikipedia is not the news]]. Please assume good faith. You will notice that I've reverted, since expanded refs, as opposed to raw URLs, are entirely appropriate. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 14:41, 9 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::::My apologies. Someone must have removed my reference before your edits. I do not see anything added to that section except the bullets. In the past an editor has tried to expand (in their own words) what the judge said so I am particularly watchful of it. It seems I jumped the gun in your case. Sorry. [[User:Mugginsx|Mugginsx]] ([[User talk:Mugginsx|talk]]) 15:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::No prob. I try not to [[WP:DONTBITE|bite the newcomers]], sorry if it seemed bitey. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 15:15, 9 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Slashdot == |
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Most of the edits I made were restoring the deletions and vandalism of a known [[Gay Nigger Association of America|GNAA]] troll. It's difficult to take them seriously and I have a very low tolerance for their kind. As for some of the material being a primary source, there's really nothing wrong with that, as long as the article itself has enough third party sources to balance it out, which I believe it does. [[User:Wiki.Tango.Foxtrot|WTF?]] ([[User talk:Wiki.Tango.Foxtrot|talk]]) 15:44, 15 August 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi, thanks for the cool addition on the Russell Varian Prize. Would you be so kind, though, as to explain what the acronyms mean or wikilink them to appropriate articles? Thanks! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 23:12, 19 August 2011 (UTC) |
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#Why wasn't this brought up on the article's talk page? Discussion of article improvement usually goes there. |
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#The redlinks aren't my fault - on Wikipedia, there's very little nuclear magnetic resonance history coverage, and precious little credit for Varian's (and other's) astounding contributions to the science, technology, and business of NMR. There has been persistent deletion of language which even ''mentions'' "nuclear" in connection with "magnetic resonance." So I've softened the language as much as I can, and not throw up. It's not scary: atoms have nuclei, and they wiggle in tune with magnetic fields. Hence, nuclear, magnetic, resonance. Though it has absolutely nothing to do with nuclear power, I predict trouble with anti-"nuclear" partisans. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 05:01, 20 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hmmm. Sounds like a wiki-war I'm probably best avoiding. I mostly hang out at WikiProject Equine, which has more than enough drama for me! (And the occasional targeting by the animal rights bunch makes for a lot of drama too) I'm just enjoying seeing other verifiable material being added, it's hard to find biographical stuff on these fellows on the net, though it looks like the Stanford Library has gobs and gobs of goodies if someone actually went there. (Too far away for me)) This article was actually one of two spinoffs from an article I did on their niece, [[Sheila Varian]], I have a minor sub-hobby in figuring out where noted horse breeders got the $$$ is takes to pour into the rathole that is horse breeding! (grin), here, Dorothy Varian, as a widow, helped bankroll the horse ranch for her brother -in law and niece. The whole Varian family is an interesting bunch, their father was a fascinating character too. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 00:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Ah, well. Who would have thought that ponies (Ponies!) would cause trouble (wink)? Louis CK does a great bit about his daughter being bit by a pony (Pony!). Cheers. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 02:53, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:::LOL! Ponies per se cause relatively little trouble, so long as you realize they are actually 1000-lb herbivorous housecats in disguise! :-D It's horse PEOPLE who are completely insane! (I may at times resemble that remark myself). [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 18:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Ridiculous obfuscatory proceduralism gone mad: parameter "background" which should be named "background_color", color values named as genres or jobs, and other randomness. I brought it up, and self reverted after looking at the rest of the history. Take a look. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 02:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::Changed my mind, and added a highly revised suggestion there. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 03:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Monty Woolley == |
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Thanks for that. But did I detect some peevedness [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Monty_Woolley&curid=8865129&diff=446055344&oldid=446047929 in your edit summary]? I don't understand why we'd want to be coy about his gayness in the text when we've been categorising him as gay for quite a while now. -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<font face="Papyrus"><sup>[your turn]</sup></font>]] 10:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Yeah, I'm grumpy. Didn't think it was coy as it was, really, just quiet, without being silent. We don't bang on about heteros, why bother about gay? He was closeted in life, and his will and estate have changed nothing since his death. The category suffices IMO. Eventually it won't matter whatsoever, and I can't wait. It's balkanism. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 10:32, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:: We don't bang on about heteros, true. But then, we don't have [[:Category:Straight people]] either. For better or worse, LGBT people are a notable minority. While they/we are most definitely normal, they/we are not the norm. LGBT categories are governed by the same rule as applies to any other category: a subject cannot be placed in a category unless there is evidence in the article that supports that categorisation. We could not have someone in [[:Category:French astrologers]] unless it was clear in the article that the subject was (a) French and (b) an astrologer. Simple. If a category suffices, how do we deal with the curiosity it would obviously engender? I'm not insensitive to where you're coming from; I'm just trying to apply these rules consistently. -- [[User:JackofOz|<font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz</font>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<font face="Papyrus"><sup>[your turn]</sup></font>]] 12:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Deleting discussion == |
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Hello, Lexein. I just wanted to clarify that I was deleting a duplicated discussion, as seen in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Death_of_Caylee_Anthony&diff=prev&oldid=446249676 this edit] before you reverted it. It's already on the talk page and was duplicated accidentally. I only removed the one that doesn't have the latest reply in it, and this is why I reverted you moments ago. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 02:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:Ok, no problem. I didn't check the TOC, and searching for duplicated discussions is usually TL;DR. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 02:18, 23 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== I voted == |
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== RE: deletions and problem of Wiki's decrease in editors == |
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I know the above subjects interest you. I have come out of an early "self-imposed Wiki retirement" to make one final attempt at "tilting at Wiki-windmills" [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_guests_on_Red_Eye_w/_Greg_Gutfeld here]]. I've come to respect your knowledge of Wiki and its problems, so I hope you find something (anything) I wrote persuasive enough for you to act upon. If you can't get something done with policy, then I don't know who can. You changed my mind several times and I'm pretty stubborn sometimes. But you always came up with great solutions to Wiki problems. I fear the future of Wiki will only consist a small group of editors spending all their time trying to maintain the ''status quo'' by reverting vandals and such, or locking down articles. That's not a happy outlook, but I predict that is where Wiki is heading in the distant future if changes are not made to policy soon. It would be a shame to see so much good hard work which has been done on Wiki come to such a sad state of static existence. With regards, sincerity and respect, --[[User:RedEyedCajun|RedEyedCajun]] ([[User talk:RedEyedCajun|talk]]) 14:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC) |
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The old film poster template fur [[Template:Film poster fur]] says that the poster rationale (not necessarily a film poster) should be used to replace it, but I saw nothing regarding the replacement of the license template for a film poster, so I changed the license back to promotional. Don't believe there would be issues if either license was used--promotional or poster. [[User:We hope|We hope]] ([[User talk:We hope|talk]]) 16:12, 24 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== WHS == |
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Your mumble mumble comment re the WHS halls is pri$eless. Why did you, or someone else, restore the removed notbale members?[[User:SLY111|SLY111]] ([[User talk:SLY111|talk]]) 16:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)SLY111 |
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:I don't think anyone did - the article size has been steadily declining, name by unsourced name ... --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 18:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC) |
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Apologies for the false alarm. A few times on my laptop an older version of the entry will appear when I visit (I kid you not). |
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I doubt,save researching Yale yearbooks (the Banner), Yale Lit mags, and Yale Daily News issues published in April and May, that I'll find proper references for the deleted members; however, I will do so, over time. Thanks for your energy.[[User:SLY111|SLY111]] ([[User talk:SLY111|talk]]) 17:39, 8 September 2011 (UTC)SLY111 |
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:The browser cache, it vexes us! As do radical blogs, sadly. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 17:58, 8 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== Dutch cheese listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] == |
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect [[Dutch cheese]]. Since you had some involvement with the ''Dutch cheese'' redirect, you might want to participate in [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 September 7#Dutch cheese|the redirect discussion]] (if you have not already done so). <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Augurar|Augurar]] ([[User talk:Augurar|talk]]) 03:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:I appreciate the notice. Replied there. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 04:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== You did the right thing in my opinion == |
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No, for Dutch Cheeses I think you exactly right to do so and a swift close was exactly right, and was rather glad to have that swift consensus. I am wearing px sunglasses now since i broke me old ones after getting into the loft carrying the third ladder up into their, so am a bit under the weather, and on a hungarian kb, but exacly the rihgt decision to take in my opinion. I left a brief comment but obviously after the decision is taken you can't say too much. Bit it was the right one, in mx opinion, and Ihope I did a little towards it. [[User:SimonTrew|Si Trew]] ([[User talk:SimonTrew|talk]]) 11:53, 9 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks and good luck with your glasses! Cheers, --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 12:00, 9 September 2011 (UTC) |
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* Well, to put it another way, thanks for your hard work for doing it. These specs are not so good for me doing it but until me eye is fixed I can"t do more so please excuse my appaling typing. [[User:SimonTrew|Si Trew]] ([[User talk:SimonTrew|talk]]) 13:42, 9 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== A beer for you! == |
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I am a daemon programmer myself and on Wikipedia I am indebted to [[User:Cobi]] for many of Cluebot NL's millions of edits, I'm truly shocked the UnrealIRCd page was deleted. Ho hum... if you plan to restore the page in the future, please email me, (my talk page will not be monitored from one year to the next). --- I am unimpressed with Deletionists who have commercial self-interest, and for this and other reasons I am leaving wikipedia, like so many editors before me. [[User:Geoffjw1978|Geoffjw1978]] [[User talk:Geoffjw1978|<sup><font color="blue">''T'' </font></sup>]]<sup>''L ''</sup>[[Special:Contributions/Geoffjw1978|<sup><font color="blue">''C'' </font></sup>]] 21:38, 10 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thanks - I do hope to get it restored, but it (and every other IRC article) needs more significant book and significant journal coverage. I know some of these sources exist, but I'm crap at library research. Wish you wouldn't leave. Thanks for the beer! --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 21:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC) |
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::Addendum: Looking at the sources (two books), and the deletion discussion, it appears that several editors acted in bad faith in misrepresenting and even lying about this article, for the sole purpose of "winning" by getting it deleted. Please do not leave the project. When I've de-stubbed the f'ing article, I'm going to ANI about these clowns. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 22:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC) |
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''(replied to and moved to [[WT:Paid editing (essay)]])'' |
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No, I think you moved just fast enough, the subjects on Dutch cheese markets should be about the markets not the cheese, and indeed they are, but in my opinion you are right to have made the list article, and to make it fast sometimes saves a lot of bother with grumbles from others saying it should be Fudge Wheeze Markets or Touch Please Markets or whatever (I believe they have those latter in Amsterdam). Of course, only my opinion. [[User:SimonTrew|Si Trew]] ([[User talk:SimonTrew|talk]]) 22:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== We comment out, not delete, pending sourcing. == |
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Where do you get this idea from? Unsourced content can be deleted at any time by anyone, the onus is on the person adding the content to find source before returning not the person deleting it. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 09:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC) |
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*Copied and replied to at [[Talk:Comparison of Internet Relay Chat clients]]. --[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 09:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== September 2011 == |
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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=|link=]] Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit warring]]. Users are expected to [[Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus-building in talk pages|collaborate and discuss]] with others and avoid editing [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptively]].<br> |
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:Rationale: It is reasonable to want the article to remain unedited for two reasons: 1: 3O was called in, 2: If other edits are made to the article, restoring deleted table content is that much more of a pain. I'm asking for some consideration for the adding editors. It's ''six tables'' that have to be edited. |
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:I appreciate that you stopped editing the article at the point 3O was called in. The other editor edited ''over'' pending 3O, so I reverted that, ''once.'', which I think is acceptable. |
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:I've tried my best, singlehandedly, to fend off unwelcome, and unconsensused deletions, and compromised with prior-consensed ''commenting'', while all the other usual interested editors seem not to be around to participate in the discussion. |
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:I hope you understand that I'm feeling quite besieged, and I don't want unnecessary damage done to the article, given that the content is uncontroverial, non-BLP, and non-extraordinary claims. |
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:I have this request: to not use deletion as the only tool for article improvement. |
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:--[[User:Lexein|Lexein]] ([[User talk:Lexein#top|talk]]) 16:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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That's fair enough, just don't get caught out by 3RR - I don't plan to edit it until someone independent decides. --[[User:Cameron Scott|Cameron Scott]] ([[User talk:Cameron Scott|talk]]) 16:29, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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thanks for the appreciation, but I didn't take this picture, nor did I attend the festival ! It was taken by an amateur photographer, with whom I am in contact, and who attends a lot of festivals and premieres in France. I just browse through his blog and facebook accounts, select pictures, ask for his approval, and upload them, then he proceeds to send the appropriate OTRS permissions. I must have uploaded about 1000 of his pictures on commons so far with his most gracious permission. I can ask him if he has a better version of this particular picture, though. cheers, [[User:Jean-Jacques Georges|Jean-Jacques Georges]] ([[User talk:Jean-Jacques Georges|talk]]) 21:09, 15 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:No problem at all. If you're interested, you can take a look at [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=georges+biard his pictures on commons] (all of them uploaded by yours truly). Lots of pictures from the various Cannes festival (he's been going there since the late eighties). [[User:Jean-Jacques Georges|Jean-Jacques Georges]] ([[User talk:Jean-Jacques Georges|talk]]) 21:59, 15 September 2011 (UTC) |
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