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• Featured list candidates/Milner Award/archive1

Nominator(s): Wretchskull (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

After taking a hiatus from my main projects, I decided to dabble in lists and gain some experience. The Milner Award looked like an appealing start, and I might attempt to get all Royal Society awards to featured status if time doesn't become an issue. Huge thanks to PresN for reviewing the list and giving feedback. I believe the list is comprehensive enough to meet the FL criteria. Wretchskull (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• "is annually awarded" - I think "is awarded annually" is more natural wording

• I agree, fixed it.

• "the 2020 lecture was held under a Zoom webinar" - the word "under" seems odd here. I would personally say "as part of" or even just "as"

• Changed to "as".

• Think that's it from me - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for your feedback! Wretchskull (talk) 07:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments from DanCherek

• "made up of three award cycles": The use of the word "cycles" here is odd to me, particularly because it sounds like all three of those groups are represented on the committee at the same time, and the specific word doesn't appear in the source. Is that just a phrase I'm not familiar with?

• Removed it; it would be redundant regardless.

• Serge Abiteboul image needs better alt text

• Done.

• Thomas A. Henzinger: any reason for including the middle initial? His article doesn't use it, and neither does the source for that entry.

• Removed it.

• Xavier Leroy citation: This one got me confused for a while because I was looking at this spreadsheet (linked from the award's official website) and it turns out they accidentally switched Leroy's and Henzinger's citations. But I don't Leroy's citation in the list is the right one anyway, becase I'm pretty sure the cited source just took that phrase from the quote from him. Instead, I believe the correct citation is "In recognition of his exceptional achievements in computer programming which includes the design and implementation of the OCaml programming language", which is consistent with this announcement.

• @DanCherek: I see. The problem is that I cannot find a secondary source stating the citation as it says here. Do you think I should just use that Royal Society source instead?
  • Maybe this? I think it's partially derived from information provided by the Royal Society but it seems more similar to other sources in the list. DanCherek (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Replaced it.

• This YouTube video is licensed under Creative Commons {{YouTube CC-BY}} and could be used for a photo of Bernhard Schölkopf.

• Done.

• YouTube videos of Thomas Henzinger that are licensed under Creative Commons and could be used for a photo: [1][2][3][4][5][6] — there may be more from that channel

• Done.

• This Flickr photo and this one are photos of Xavier Leroy at the 2010 and 2011 POPL symposia that could be transferred to Commons and one of them could be included here.

• Done.

• This YouTube video is licensed under Creative Commons and could be used for a photo of Marta Kwiatkowska.

• Done.

• Generally for references, if you're naming the organization or institution that is publishing the information, use |publisher= so that it's not italicized. But if it's the name of a work (e.g. a book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.) then italics should be used.

• Done, but some websites have a "Department of Computer Science" or other names along with the institution. What do you think about the reference layout now? Should I refrain from mixing both "website" and "publisher" and simply put both the institution and department under "publisher"?
  • I think putting both under "publisher" makes sense because otherwise it sounds like Oxford publishes a journal titled Department of Computer Science. I'm not an expert at formatting though so whoever does the source review may be able to give a more experienced opinion. DanCherek (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Okay. I put both under "publisher".

Overall nice work! Best, DanCherek (talk) 02:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you very much for your feedback and your time digging for images on the internet! Wretchskull (talk) 11:31, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
• @DanCherek: Addressed concerns. Wretchskull (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Happy to support. DanCherek (talk) 01:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• "who,^[1] among" – footnote is placed a bit awkwardly; maybe move it to the end of the sentence?

• I added the ref right before "who", what do you think?

• "been resident there" → "has lived in Europe" (your wording isn't technically wrong, but it's a bit unfamiliar in its usage)

• Done.

• Table can be made sortable, with the image and reference columns made unsortable
  • Make sure to add Template:Sortname if you do this

• Done

• Archive sources if possible

• Done

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:32, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

• @RunningTiger123: Thank you! Wretchskull (talk) 11:31, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Support – excellent work! RunningTiger123 (talk) 00:31, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• Images need alt text --PresN 04:07, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@PresN: Thank you for the heads-up - done. Wretchskull (talk) 08:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

• Source review – The reliability of the references appears to be fine, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. One minor formatting tweak would be helpful: ref 7 could use an en dash to replace the hyphen for style purposes. That was the only issue I found with the sourcing. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:14, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Giants2008: Done - thank you! Wretchskull (talk) 22:04, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

With that, I'd say the source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)