Talk:Fano (militia)

Similarities or differences with Qeerroo

@ItsLife1 and MfactDr: I think that some comparison between Fano and Qeerroo makes sense, but that would be better first done in the body of the article, based on sources. The Ethiopia Insight article by René Lefort mentions Fano and Qeerroo together, twice, but that's not a real comparison. A comparison doesn't make sense in the lead, it seems to me, at least at the moment, based on the sources that we have.

It's clear that there's a common thread of mostly young people organising in loose groups. NYMFD seems to be a named, organised Qeerroo group. Solomon Atanaw seems to be identified as the leader of a defined 'Fano' group. Given that the 'Fano' name has been used to describe people responsible for peace, we cannot just say that Fano and Qeerroo are "counterparts". So I suggest that more sourced info should first go into the body of the article, if it justifies a comparison (what's similar) or contrast (what's different). Boud (talk) 04:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Boud I agree on what you said!  Before dubbed qeerroo as a counterpart of fano has to be sourced.  As you said both parties have completely opposite profiles. Thanks for starting this discussion MfactDr (talk) 10:18, 8 February 2021 (UTC) 

Take down fake news

Posting claiming Amhara military killing Amhara citizens is lie True post https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai_Kadra_massacre Billyfraps (talk) 17:18, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Who is allowing this falsified description of Fano to exist on Wiki!? How is this possible?

This page is riddled with false propaganda about Fano, including the implication of them committing massacres that they NEVER committed. This "Fano(nationalist movement)" page is made in an effort to demonize and discredit an organization that is actually trying to SAVE millions of ethnic Amharas who are subject to massacres and genocide. How can Wikipedia allow such made up information in its platform? Where is the oversight here? Can I just wake up in the morning, decide to tell the world that the sky is pink, and have a wikipedia page stating that my fiction is an actual fact? This is real life. FANO is currently fighting in the Ethiopian/Tigray war, trying to save Amharas from being hunted by Tigray's Liberation Front (TPLF). Wikipedia, at the very least, needs to have active oversight of pages concerning such current and high profile topics like the Ethiopian war and entities involved in this war such as Fano. You have responsibility to actively monitor the pages describing these very organizations so that they are ACCURATE and not being used by evil entities for their own propaganda. This is ridiculous, Wikipedia. A bad image for your brand. We understand that you have a lot of pages to manage, but this is a high profile and current topic with lots of entities with propagandas who can spread false information through your platform. We ask you to fix this issue and fix this page so that it has accurate information. If you need time to verify that all the fake accusations against Fano are indeed false, you need to take this false and destructive page down temporarily - then repost it with ACCURATE information. No information is better than false information. What you are allowing to happen is destructive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yodit legesse (talk • contribs) 04:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources to improve the article, feel free to edit.Rastakwere (talk) 07:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 December 2021

Fano was not responsible for the massacre in Maikadra. The terrorist groups TPLF and ONG are responsible for this massacre. They are ethnically cleansing Amharas. 71.127.33.39 (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:02, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

🤦🏽‍♀️ blaming the victims

🤦🏽‍♀️ can you please correct this it's very sad and disrespectful for the victims and those of us that had relatives that had died in this massacre Please read and research before posting this kind of sensitive subjects

The total death toll remains unclear, but according to Amnesty International, "likely hundreds" were killed.[6] Two videos, which were analyzed by Amnesty International to prove that the massacre had taken place, show dozens of corpses with injuries caused by bladed weapons, like machetes. According to the EHRC, which described the massacre as a "widespread and systematic attack directed against a civilian population" at least 600 people were killed; EHRCO counted 1100 deaths. Most of the victims were Amhara according to the EHRC and EHRCO reports 2601:646:9703:7460:0:0:0:CCEC (talk) 08:41, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

It's completely unclear what edit is proposed here, especially as the quote does not seem to be from this article. Boud (talk) 17:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 December 2021

Fano is a freedom fighter group youth or elders. Protector for civilian. Mikadra killing is by TPLF rather Fano stopped further killing by fighting TPLF Samri youth killer groups. So Fano is not related to any massacre. 173.66.151.110 (talk) 01:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Error needs to be corrected

Fano is not accused of MaiKadra massacre. The MaiKadra massacre was conducted by TPLF’s Samri group. 2601:2C1:8800:5490:E57C:AD96:DD37:25AC (talk) 17:15, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 December 2021

The whole point of the page is to demonize, degrade, dehumanize and sway the current reality on the ground for a political purpose. Wikipedia is an open-source and public-based resource should not be used by extreme ethnic-based haters to portray a group of people as killers, evils, and war-mongers. Wikipedia is losing its reputation of being a platform that supports evidence-based writing by giving edition protection for this page. Wikipedia should remove these pages as the intention of the page is to demonize millions of people in Ethiopia. 2601:601:9300:570:0:0:0:1343 (talk) 03:33, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Not done: It's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

False information and article ( its illegal to publish hate and false information)

This is a false publication article that is purely conveying incorrect and hateful messages that is far beyond the actual truth on hand.

It should be illegal to make false accusations and push violence against civilians who are self defending them self because the evading of the terrorist organization Tplf or Tdf which is raping and committing massacre in the Amhara region on the Amhara people as of now and since the past couple of months. Tplf is causeing terrorism and killing thousands in the Amhara region whom the local people and civilians ( Fano ) are trying to protect themselves from this terrorists and losing their family due to attack and attrocities committed by the Tplf who is responsible for all this mess and massacre. 208.98.222.58 (talk) 04:14, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 December 2021 (2)

Fano is did not participate in Maicadra Massacre. This has been proved by UNHRC and Ethiopian Humana Rights Commission joint inveatigation which revealed that the massacre was committed and directed by the tigrai people liberation front. There is nothing called Kimant assacre. Generally the post is written by a person or persons with bad intention and hatred for the Amhara people. 176.204.152.75 (talk) 08:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ue3lman (talk) 08:51, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 December 2021

Wikipedia displayed VERY biased information about Fano national movement. It's not as you mentioned! Other ethnic extremists other than Amhara or foreigners miss guided you to have a negative understanding of Fano. The true definition is far beyond your statement! It's a national movement for freedom, democracy, and colonization; just like 'Qeerroo'. Please edit your article as soon as possible as it is a very sensitive topic probably against more than 100 million people of Ethiopia and diasporas abroad. 160.15.13.180 (talk) 15:21, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LakesideMiners^{Come Talk To Me!} 15:50, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

The Article about Fano

I have seen the article you wrote about Fanoo it is totally false accussation the terrorist organization called TPLF & OLFvtry to destroy z country thanks for National defense force together with Fano protect our country 196.189.95.244 (talk) 15:55, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Fake article of Fano (National Movement)

Below is a quote from the OHCHR and EHRC joint report and it only accuses Fano for killing 5 Tigrayans and that's the only direct and specific accusation on Fano, is it right to accuse Fano for committing a massacre based on that statement? Here's the link to the report: https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/ia9FOwFReBEl

"Unlawful killings and extra-judicial executions: The ENDF, EDF, Fano (group affiliated to the Amhara militia), TSF and affiliated militia, the Samri (local Tigrayan youth group), have committed unlawful killings and extra-judicial executions amounting to violations and abuses of international human rights and international humanitarian law, as well as violations of the Constitution and laws of Ethiopia. Persons taking no direct part in hostilities were wilfully killed by parties to the conflict, including ethnic-based killings of more than two hundred Amharas, mostly men, in Maikadra by the Samri accompanied by Tigrayan police and militia on 9November 2020, as well as the retaliatory killing of at least five Tigrayans by the Fano" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abiysite (talk • contribs) 19:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

The article below about Fano (National Movement) is fake and Wikipedia should not post such an article about a group of people that represent 10's of millions of people (Amharas) without no evidence and prevent the article from being edited. This article should not be edited, it should be taken down and verified information shall be posted! Thankyou!

"Fano members are accused of participating in ethnic massacres, including that of 58 Qemant people in Metemma during 10–11 January 2019.[2] They are also accused of participating in the Mai Kadra massacre, which Amnesty International, the Ethiopian Human Rights Commission, and the Ethiopian Human Rights Council attributed to local Tigrayan youths,[4][5] and in the Humera massacre, during the 2020 Tigray conflict.[6][7] In March 2020, the leader of one of the groups called Fano, Solomon Atanaw, stated that the Fano would not disarm until Benishangul-Gumuz Region's Metekel Zone and the Tigray Region districts of Welkait and Raya are placed under the control of Amhara Region". Abiysite (talk) 18:15, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 December 2021

Fano is did not participate in Maicadra Massacre. This has been proved by UNHRC and Ethiopian Humana Rights Commission joint inveatigation which revealed that the massacre was committed and directed by the tigrai people liberation front. There is nothing called Kimant assacre. Generally the post is written by a person or persons with bad intention and hatred for the Amhara people

Reliable sources https://www.Amnesty International investigationamnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/11/ethiopia-investigation-reveals-evidence-that-scores-of-civilians-were-killed-in-massacre-in-tigray-state/  reported TPLF is responsible for Mai-Kadra massacre Ethiopia18 (talk) 14:07, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. There is sourcing for claims Fano was involved as well. The article covers both sides of the reporting on the massacre. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

19 Dec 2021 unsigned comment

Fanos are the protectors of humanity it's a name used by Adawa fighters in the past now Amhara fanos are fighting TPLF/tigray nationalists who are committing countles atrocities. Fanos save thousands of women from getting raped and killed by tplf/tigray terror group yet the whole world kept silent like the Armenian genocide for one hundred years. But the amhara fanos kept their words and saved those who suffer in the hands of terrorists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amhara aquila (talk • contribs) 03:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 December 2021

Most of the contents on this page are makeups. I noticed 76% of the content is created based on hate to fano. Masresha7890 (talk) 23:01, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Leased a page for 1 year for TPLF, terrorist group

Wikipedia leased a page for TPLF, a terrorist group with a long time plan to cleanse Amhara ethnic group, since 1970s. Today in 2021/22 TPLF waged war against Amhara, Afar and Ethiopia with a clear aim of destroying Ethiopia and cleaning Amhara people from the surface. Following an attack on the Northern Command of the Ethiopian National Defence Force, TPLF has committed genocide on Maikdra, mass massacre of Amharas. Then TPLF invaded northern and eastern Amhara committing atrocities: mass killing, rape, destroying churching, mosques, health facilities including hospitals, infrastructure with a lot of vandalism. However Ethiopian government, reactionary in principle has declared a unilateral cease fire in many occasions, TPLF still is invading Afar and Amhara areas neighboring Tigrai. When I’m talking about invasion, I’m talking about rape and massacres every single day by TPLF forces on Amhara and Afar people enforcing tplf’s long term plan, cleansing Amhara and anyone standing against their plan in any form.

In this page Wikipedia allowed TPLF to disseminate a false narrative that FANO is a terrorist group, while in fact it is the Fano/ Amhara who are the targets of TPLF cleansing. What’s frustrating is Wikipedia is widely known as a website not reliable because anybody can edit it, this time Wikipedia has locked this page after a TPLFite has put a wrong information to misinform low caliber readers, who do do not have information that Wikipedia is trash. There are billions of visitors of Wikipedia who don’t really perceive Wikipedia is just fool of false narrative when it comes to such sensitive subjects. What is ironic is locking a page after they inserted such a defamatory and inflammatory, sensitive info. This is nothing other than participating in a genocidal plan by TPLF since the second half of the 20th century. So, Wikipedia need to remove this page asap or at least unlock the page so that concerned people can react or the world can hear from the victims as well. 2603:8081:2501:E58F:9438:9943:1BE0:AD3B (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

I would suggest that you check the references in the article and look through WP:VERIFIABILITY to better understand how Wikipedia works. You've made a good start by coming to the Talk page; you can also check the History page and editors' explanations for their edits. And then I suggest that you read Wikipedia:Edit requests and make a specific request for a change that you think should be made. Please also assume good faith.

Just briefly on the content that you've mentioned: the TPLF does have a history of responsibility for human rights violations, and the current war does include some human rights violations by the TDF. But this article is not about the TPLF or the TDF, it's about Fano, according to the multiple definitions of what Fano actually is. If you have good sources, then that would help to improve the quality of this article.

Thanks! Boud (talk) 23:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)'

issue with (nationalist movement)

@Boud: You created this article. Fano is a militia and a protest movement according to the sources. In which sources does it exactly say it is a nationalist movement? Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dawit S Gondaria: I created it, but other people have modified it. You can check the record, but I don't remember putting "nationalist movement" in the lead. In the case of Ethiopia, I would expect that it's especially difficult to work out what "nationalist" means (pro-region? pro-ethnic group? pro-federal state? pro-return-to-an-empire? pro-Ethiopia-without-defining-what-Ethiopia-is?). If a source uses the expression, then it might have to be quoted or given an explanation as to what the author really means. Boud (talk) 01:07, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

@Boud: Apologies i looked up the first edit[[1]] it displayed the current title. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

sources that say (nationalist movement)

References

Article name move back to Fano (militia) WP:COMMONNAME

A blocked sock moved this article from Fano (militia) to Fano (nationalist movement) [[2]] the reasoning given in the edit summary:●its characterization as a militia is highly disputed also doesn't hold up most sources refer Fano as a militia. The sources in this article (as far i read) doesn't say nationalist movement. WP:COMMONNAME applies here, unless others can substiante the current name over militia. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)